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bit of publicity to tie in with the animation series.. regular strip or at least regular appearance... lure those young readers in... if it dont work just drop the strip... yea.. get those kids into comics again !

couple years down the line we could be going 'you playin dan dare on the ps3 ?'

Nope.

Please... NO!

I finished reading Alan Moore's Promethea Book III last night.

I've been following most of the ABC series in GN form, and while Promethea is still engaging my 'worth reading' circuits, it isn't as good as the League of ExtraOrdinary Gentlemen or Top Ten.

It starts off pretty well, but it starts getting into heavy hippy magic tutor mode & stays there for many pages at a time.  Thing is, at the same time there's a pretty good story going on in the background (especially in book 3 - with the Stacia/Grace Promethea going psychotic).

of course it would have to be an updated dan dare, like the way new eagle did dare...not a 50s rip off but a dan dare for 2003 typa thing yer know...

But then it wouldn't be Dan Dare. So what's the point?

hmmmmm.


 no ,

 next idea please......

Never really liked Dan Dare.  Think it was his stupid haircut and totally crap name.  And maybe the rubbish stories too.  

it WOULD be dan dare, the modern version... look their was 50s, 2000ad,new eagle... etc. we can have a new dan dare... perhaps he can be in the un space corps or somet...

He could save Digby from a Space Jungle and break his spirit until he becomes a deadly Space Jungle Fighting machine, shouting 'Come on, Tommy Treen! I got a bullet for all of you.' He gradually wins the respect of Digby and Sir Hubert - then turns out not to be part of Spacefleet at all! But the men accept him for his rough tough ways. And then when he dies he actually turns out to be half Treen. With Dare dead on a big stretcher Digby could go home - but too many of his friends, like that french guy and him with the glasses, have died in this stinking jungle, in space. So he walks back into it and leaves only his audio diary, recorded in a comedy northern accent.

It would tell the horrors of space war against a cunning and ruthless enemy who says things like "Haaaiiieee! Dare!", "Release the Zom" and "What is mercy O Commander?"

or.... he could be like ACE from red dwarf !

I wish it would come back, at least to finish off the story from all those years ago, but some how doubt it as the rights are probably tied up some thing rotten.Still could bring 2000AD a lot of publicity.
Wasn't too keen on the power guantlet thing but remember those fantastic covers Dave Gibbons drew when the strip stated on the front page.The Eagle spacecraft escaping from the tentacle has always been a favourite.
Remember the lump you had in your throat when the Liberator was destroyed in Blakes 7. The same thing for the fantastic Spacefort. God rest her soul.

He should be remembered as he was in Prog 500. Washed-up stubbly space-wino forever weeping at how naff the cosmic claw is.

publicity = sales... = more likely to have dredd film !

There is a new Dan Dare - the D.V.D of the C.G.I. version is available now. 12 episodes for a tenner. Go and buy and watch Outpost. It'ss great.

One of the things I think is interesting about Dan Dare is all the different incarnations of him that are floating about in comic book limbo. Do they ever meet up together? Do the later incarnations suffer any kind of identity crisis over the fact that whilst they have the name and memories of a certain character they are clearly different people?

That would be cool. Like the 5 Dotors.

I love Dan Dare (mostly the original Frank Hampson version, but all of them really) with my entire being.  He's my ideal hero.  The original Eagle strips have an underlying reality about matters of life and death that you only really get soon after the war.  Dare won't kill unless he absolutely has to, but when he does, he does, and he and his crew don't feel the need to talk about it afterwards.  

My current SF novel, British Summertime (out now from Victor Gollancz) is about a Dan Dare-ish figure, a pilot from the future with Dare's outlook and culture, being stranded in the present.  So... that'd be a plug, then.  

One of the few heroes to have brown hair.

Fact.

Current SF novel? I am curious as to whether there are others and where I might obtain them.

J.

Oi!No!Pilot of tyhe future he may be,but if he came round my house with his spaceship I'd say Oi!No!Park it somewhwere else ya mimsy!

No Dan Dare you fools!Listen to Odds,Bou and Me.

Yeah,Paul-I read the excerpt on Infinity+Intriguing...

M.

IMO, rehashing Dare again would be a huge mistake, although some decent reprints of the early New Eagle Dan Dare strips would be more than welcome. There was some lovely art and I remember some cracking stories (one with a huge bloke in black armour with a floating sort of shark-type-thing that chases Dan and some bint with colour changing hair immediately springs to mind).

And they should collect Doomlord as well. :)

A no for me too.  Always felt Dare was kinda like a modern Biggles, with all that class system and english parody rubbish thrown in.  Somethings are meant never to return, like Hotshot Hamish, mighty mouse and billy boots!!!!  And blake's Seven, I wish theyd leave that alone too...

Yer "dont spoil me memories" Slips

Watcha talking about?  Mighty Mouse was GREAT!

more seriously, if anyone was to bring them back, the only way to do it would be to have exactly the original Dan Dare & crew, but place them in an ultraviolent & perverse future.  Dan regularly shocked by what he discovers, the crew going through hell, but at the end of the strip good ol' British pluck saves the day and all is right again.  Hover on the line between satire & pastiche, and it could be a good 'un.  Is that what Paul's novel does?

Jared, thanks for asking!  And Dudley, that would be how I'd do it as well.  I think Dan's values would still stand up.  The novel does quite a lot of that, albeit the main focus is the character exploring our present in comparison with his idealised future. The novel is British Summertime (the previous one being called Something More) and is out from Victor Gollancz (and thus available in most big bookshops) in trade paperback, with a regular paperback coming in February.  You can also find them on Amazon.  

Something More ISBN: 1-85798-959-7 (paperback)
British Summertime ISBN: 0-575-07369-1 (trade)

Sorry for this plug, but a freelancer has to make a living!

One of the few heroes to have brown hair.

Eh?  Wasn't he a Ginga?

Q. Which comic featured the post-modern Dan Dare,  feeling guilty over war crimes against the Treens etc?  I've a feeling it was early '90s, could've been Revolver...I quite likesd the ironic, retro-future-ish feel of that strip, though admittedly I didn't read more than a couple.

It was Revolver-last couple of episiodes were in Crisis when it folded.

That was DARE, first printed in CRISIS, by Grant Morrison and Rian Hughes. It was later released as a TPB (by Fleetway, IIRC) and as a four-issue series by Monster Comics in 1992.

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Dare was in Revolver surely?I do distinctly remember Crisis having the last couple-or do I??

Yep, Revolver definitely but it folded before they got to the last episode and that was printed in Crisis.

Egmont Fleetway sold all remaining rights to Dan Dare in 1999 or 2000, so to bring the character back to 2000 AD would require a licensing deal and all other sorts of hassle.

My advice - don't hold your breath.

As for the Grant Morrison/Rina Hughes Dare, an absolute cracker. IIRC correctly, the scene where the Mekon buggers our Dan was a bit more... penetrating... in the original script.

davidbishop

Does anyone actually want another Dredd film? Be careful what you ask for...you might get it.

"Yep, Revolver definitely but it folded before they got to the last episode and that was printed in Crisis."


Aaah, thanks guys.  I think I only got to see the Revolver ones.  Shame it folded as I was quite into Revolver- I just thought our local newsagents had stopped stocking it to be honest.

'would be to have exactly the original Dan Dare & crew, but place them in an ultraviolent & perverse future' oh yea... thats a kewl idea... you could have them being the original 50s team in an alternate universe being thrown threw an inter-dimension rip in space or somet to a future earth projected from our future type thing...

or

you could have the same characters in our future but slightly updated...instead of his sidekick being a batman he could be the navigator/engineer or somet... of course dare could still be posh.. eton,cambridge,space corp... a lot of british fighte pilots of today are public school chaps ya know..

david - licensing deals...surely its a matter of cash for paperwork...i can see rebellion going..mm.. popular icon...comic strip...game..CASH

But the C.G.I. people already are paying for Dan so they are likely to have some kind of hold over the options.

And for all Dan's stiff upper lip don't forget, as the Veritable Mr. Whit will attest, that Dan is a Manchester lad, not one of your southern pansies.

watch out for the treens chaps...tally ho....luvvv it

Publicity doesn't always mean enormous sales.  Look at Blair 1 and the sex issue.  Sales went up for a few progs then right back down to where they were.  (Da Bish said something like this in TPO)

I used to love the old Dare stuff in 2000ad. Those lost world stories were great, the reason i kept reading. Gibbons art was amazing, great space battles, those ant guys executed by being strapped to stars chucked into space, sea monsters, vampires... Not sure if he has a place in 2k now, but i'd love to get round to finish getting all the early progs so i could read them again.

and if your looking for a pic of Dan Dare, they don't get much better than this...

Are they your pages Test4?

Veery nice,like the framing-I'm warming up to getting some Flinty framed(b&w)and that may just look the biz.I have a b&w Frase page which i got into a creamy white background with a black frame,never considered a black one... anyway.

Dare good
Revival of Dan Dare not required.

yes they are mine, keep meaning to list them on the site but never get round it. that page has pride of place in art and sketch collection on the wall of spare room/study/console room/den. have them all done in black boarder and mounts, looks great.

No don't do it, let sleeping homo-erotica lie, bring on the skating vicar for god sake or at least a new strip...

Bluggerme Huffy

ooo on wall comic stripps...ooo...niceeeeee niceeee stufff...

although in theory you could do an updated or even original dare with a link to the anima series on tv ( nice little voice on credits, 'viewers may like to know that dan dare now features in 2000ad comic' ) BUT and this is the BUT... the people who own dare, by the sounds of it, just wanna charge lots for the use of the character and not build the audience so its a 'in the bin' idea.

Just let it go people...Dan Dare is no longer in 2000AD.

Smoke me a kipper i'll be back for breakfast

"Just let it go people...Dan Dare is no longer in 2000AD. "

incitement to keep a post alive...

If they can bring back Johnny Alpha they can bring back Dan Dare.
  50`s style would be consistent with the way they`ve bought back Alpha.  Just as long as it was good.

yes!

yours procrastinatorily,

Floyd

DAN DARE page and elegantly displayed.

superb. truly lovely. where did you get such a gem as that. a comic convention?

would a run of dan dare reprints work in the meg? worth considering isnt it? where they ever offered as a graphic novel collection.

I remember bidding for that page (or one very similar to it) on eBay. The price was too high for me though (i.e. well over ?100)

Wake

Theres a Computerised Series on FIVE you know!

i got it from Rufus Dayglo. he auctioned it before xmas, i emailed about it, high bidder didnt complete so he offered it to me for a price i was happy to pay for what i think is a great page. when i got it framed the shop owner hung it on the wall til i collected it, and told me he'd had two customers enquire about the price.

although i'd love to have the old dare stuff in some collected form, i can't see it happening, dont think enough people liked him. i might re-read those stories now and think they arent as good as they were when i was nine, but in the early years it was the first story i turned to every week.  

btw that batman sketch next to dare, thats by that man D'Israeli, really like that one but crossover characters dont get into the sketch gallery on this site.