2000 AD Online Forum

General Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Queen Firey-Bou on 01 January, 2004, 12:14:19 AM

Title: the illustrated mum. depressing kids books?! sob!
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 01 January, 2004, 12:14:19 AM
the tv version of this has just started. just the thought of it makes me burst into tears, spose the tele one will knock the jacqualine wilson edge off it... my kids are really into these books, anyone else?

started reading this to the wee juve, & the parallels tween me & my daughters were shocking, ( ecxept i'm not mad & marigold doesnt read comix)after a certain point in the book, & i refused to read it out loud any more ! too bloody depressing. but for the grace of grud go i. Not sure i should let the wee one watch it !

still i'm definately getting a new tattoo this year. Siberian fighting beasts.

sniffle.

realistic family issues? SOB, pass the hobbit !
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 01 January, 2004, 07:21:56 AM
she ended up in the loony bin, served her right for shooting Ian Beal and treating Dennis Pennis like shite
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Art on 01 January, 2004, 07:51:00 PM
The shooting is fully justified by the moustache, IMHO.
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Woolly on 02 January, 2004, 03:02:23 PM
The missus really enjoyed (is that the right word?) this book, for the same reasons as you mentioned Bou.
I only caught the last 20 mins of the drama, but it seemed quite good. Would you recommend the book, or is it more of a girls thang?
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Bony Fella on 02 January, 2004, 04:31:48 PM
Jaquline Wilson is very good, but I hate the woman. She aims her books at the wrong ages!! She says her 'Girls....' series should be read by 8/9 year olds onwards - it contains date-rape, drugs, booze, kids starving themselves....!! I don't agree with her at all.
Bloody talented though.
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Dudley on 02 January, 2004, 04:42:00 PM
Surely reading about such things before you're likely to be in danger from them is the best form of education?  In which case, I'd have thought 8-9 years old would be about perfect in our sad, sick society.

In evidence I'd like to put forward all the kids who get the "facts of life" lecture at 5-6 years old: generally far less strung up on sex than those of us who got an embarassed parental talk at the age of eleven.

...Dudley (no, still no kids)
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Slippery PD on 02 January, 2004, 04:54:12 PM
Surely reading about such things before you're likely to be in danger from them is the best form of education? In which case, I'd have thought 8-9 years old would be about perfect in our sad, sick society

Heh, yeah you can tell you dont have kids :)   Personally and my daughter is in her age range, Id think 8s probably too young 10 or 11 is about right.  But once again its down to the parents (hopefully) to decide, I think my daughter would probaly handle most of the issues ok now, but as an 8 year old she probably wouldnt have been able to...

Shes 11 now....

Yer Slips  
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 02 January, 2004, 10:46:36 PM
aye chaps, My 10 year 0ld has already dealt with trying to help a 'friend' ( also 10 ) whos been abandoned by mum, beat up by mums boyfriend, stomach pumped from vodka drinking, smokes 40 a day, been groped by teens whilst pissed... etc etc etc, then theres the 13 year old neighbour kid who had to have an abortion... it goes on & on, & this is a nice quiet rural place. The shit that our kids are dealing with sucks big time, so at least if an author recognises the realities it might provide some comfort & support to some kids.

The illustrated mum book, was more punchier than the tv thing, tv was cut, like the time the kids visit mum in loonie bin & she's still a gibbering wreck. In some ways i'd like to write to Jaqualine Wilson & say ! oy ! us tattoeds single mum redheads arent all bad mums you know !!

( Bou rocks back & forth gibbering )
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 02 January, 2004, 10:59:07 PM
Actually I did have in on in the background and was slowly drawn into it. Good acting from the kids but the manic/depression thing was not quite brought off... good stuff on the pressure to confrom in today's society and the stigma of mental illness.

Certainly better than the 'Screaming Skull'/'Mr Jonny' thing on the beeb the other day... but that's probably because halfway through I realised there had been a version of this on the telly when I was a kid and it had scared my stupid.
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 02 January, 2004, 11:02:55 PM
yeah thats right Gary ! i was having de-ja vu all the way through Carries War, wasnt the version we saw as kids serialised? i just remember it being terrifying, especially the fire & horror of Carries sense of responsibility for it... wierd story. the juve enjoyed this version tho.
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 02 January, 2004, 11:36:38 PM
I remember finding 'Mr Johnny' the most frightning thing first time around... which says a lot for the attitudes towards the disabled when both the books was written and the adaptation filmed. But the fire was horrible....

Although it had Pauline Quirk in it (argh Brids ofa Feather flashback, hate, HATE!) this was made it for by the always great Alum Armstrong... and at least the ending was an improvement on 'it was all a dream', which even as a kid I thought was rubbish
Title: Re: the illustrated mum. depressin...
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 03 January, 2004, 06:23:31 PM
Dunno what the books are like but the Tracy Beaker series is great stuff, especially when Lisa Coleman is in it.

ADE