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As part of the boarders awards thats on a special page on this website, Im looking for nominations to go into the award for Why Tharg Why.  There are some stories that just don't work. It could be a case of the artist and writer disagree, or that the story is just not sufficiently Zarjazz for the squaxx. Either way, if we don't tell the green one what doesn't work, he will make us read it again, and again.  This is basically the wooden Spoon award.

Im looking for somewhere in the region of 15 nominations, voting ends Friday the 9th of january, Bolt-01 and my word is final :)

Yer Slips

I nominate Durham Red.

- Trout

SECONDED

Siku doing Dredd artwork (specifically the "chin")

Synammon.

And monsters of rock.

er can I pick more than one?

Rogue Trooper
Synammon
Sinister Dexter (please god just end)
Slaine (please lords of chaos just end)

and another Nomination for Durham Red

Siku's Dredd definately...xtnct taken into consideration

Slaine, please.

Having read Durham Red as a graphic novel it not as bad as when read weekly.

Apocalypse Soon in the meg really needs mentioning...

Durham Red photo-cover...

oh, hang on, that was last year. Damn my poor memory!

can i say the autumn offensive - as...

i didnt enjoy durham red,

i didnt enjoy dead men walking,

i didnt enjoy enjoy psynammon,

and the dredd meatmonger strip wasnt very good towards the end either

thats means over half over the comic for a 5th of the year

actually, can I nominate the whole idea of offensives generally?

Sin & Dex

Slaine.

Someone please put Mills out of his misery ... and mine.

syannon and monsters of rock, yessss

give siku a break!

Siku's Dredd.

Actually, can I change that?

Death - The Wilderness years (or whatevre).

Talking dogs?
Death Boxing?
Nice death?
Quad-bikes?

WHY THARG? WHY?????

Synamon just didn't engage me at all.

The recent Meg run of Black Siddha, Family, and, worst of all, Devlin Waugh.

Disaster.


AND LEAVE DURHAM RED ALONE! BLOODY SNOBS.

Repo-Mex
Armitage Apostasy in the UK
Garth Ennis Flashback Dredd
Long gaps between 'books'
Steve Moore's 4-part Past Imperfect
Synnamon
Siku's Dredd
Having Tales of Telguuth AND a Future Shock in the same prog - PLEASE ONLY ONE FILLER per week!
Not enought Nikolai Dante.

Repo-Mex
Armitage Apostasy in the UK
Garth Ennis Flashback Dredd
Long gaps between 'books'
Steve Moore's 4-part Past Imperfect
Synnamon
Siku's Dredd
Having Tales of Telguuth AND a Future Shock in the same prog - PLEASE ONLY ONE FILLER per week!
Not enought Nikolai Dante.

Odds list is pretty much mines as well with the addition of Devlin *on and on and on* waugh

Additional nominations from me for Dredd: Meatmonger, Black Siddha and Sinister Dexter.

- Trout

Oi! Don't fuck with the filler!

It's just something that could be fixed with a bit of reshuffling...instead of having double length episodes at the beginning of an offensive, and having them run out but the end so you get too many one-off fillas at the end of an offensive - there should be single episode intros to the main stories along side the one-offs.
2 or more one-offs in a prog make for a weaker prog, as does only having 4 stories.

hmm...

synnamon

that's it

Why, why, why Delilah.

Oh, its not 1979 so afraid I?ll be predictable and have to say Siku on Dredd.
Sl?ine, it may be improving but there?s no denying that he should have gone back to the Earth Mother after seven years, Pat Mills may hate others writing his characters but he should at least know when its time to call it a day. He may be 2000?s founding father but if he were editor would he commission this or would he bury it.
Boland?s cover, great idea poorly executed.
The one thing that should be put down ahead of anything else, Sinister Dexter.


La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.

Synnonamayon (it got worse...and worse and worse.)
Durahm Red
DREDD:MEATMO(shudder)

Durham Red I think.

But Rogue Trooper too, if there was a strip this year. Can't remember now. Ptah! I'll have to go and lick the cats bum to get the taste out me mouth now.  

Nah I reckon Sinister Dexter have pretty much redeemed themselves this last year.

Interceptor: Shockingly unoriginal (In my opinio n)

Slaine
Charley's War
Black Siddha

and some not written by Pat Mills as well...

Interceptor
Durham Red

But top nomination...

Dead Man Walking

Apocalypse Soon, although it did slightly improve towards the end.

The appallingly few number of Input pages...

    Steve

Cant fault some of the choices but Charley's War is great.

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.

Am I really the only person who thinks it's over-earnest undramatic drivel with 2-D characters, appalling dialogue and predictable plotting?

If anyone agrees with me, please put up your nomination!

...Dudley

(aware of a sudden coldness, a feeling of emptiness, space around him...)

Charley's war is terrible. Nominated! Can't agree with DMW though, really enjoyed that.

Always thought you sounded like quite a smart individual but Bony you really are wrong about Charleys War.
Now you answer how you disagree, I then post and we go on forever until its 10 paces at dawn and one of us lies dead.
So I'll agree to disagree, but you are so wrong 8-)

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.

Too many jumping on progs, resulting in no Dredd tale being more than 6 episodes long. Not good enough.

Not having read Charleys War for over 10 yrs at least (until it got reprinted in the meg)I think its just as good if not better a second time round..whats more i think it will still be enjoyed in 20 yrs time for what it is..a cracking good war yarn!..Can we same the same about oh i dont know..Hewligans Haircut for instance???

He he, don't worry Logan, I'm not for getting into one of those discussions either. I CAN see why some people would like it, but I find it predictable with poor dialogue. It's also not really my kind of thing. I'm sorry I called it terrible - it isn't. But I don't think it's very good - I respect your right to like it though!
So as you say, we'll just agree to disagree on this one - saves a lot of heated discussion and a possible falling out with a fine individual if it got out of hand :-)

theres a lot of people that like it, to me it stands as a completely polished example of what can be achieved thru the comic medium

not many writers go into the kind of background that pat mills did for research on this story

the last surviving soldier from the first world war died last year - so thats it now

the only other writer that i know of is alan moore, neil gaiman is similar in the detail he puts into his scripts but he wants to tell a story

It always felt to me like it was very 'real', but I couldn't attach myself to any of the characters like I usually can in Pat Mills work, so it just didn't gell for me. But anyway... Not gonna post about this anymore in case I upset more folk!

Too many jumping on progs, resulting in no Dredd tale being more than 6 episodes long. Not good enough.


While I don't like too many jumping on progs either, I'd like to point out the following:

Incubus: 15 episodes
Revenge of the Chief Judge's Man: 8 episodes
The Satanist: 7 episodes

sikus Dredd.