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Here's a horrible thing:  how the Hutton Report and the aftermath of its effects at the BBC were reported to the US viewers of the Fox Network.

Are the events they're talking about even in the same reality as the one we inhabit?

Link: Do they mean us?

You have no idea how much this makes me want to leap through the screen and smash the guys face in with a brick.

I watch Fox News for much the same reason I read the Express and Mail - I want some anger flowing through my veins.

When the war started I did the most distastful thing I could think of - I took the day off and watched Fox News while eating nachos and drinking coke.  That was what we were meant to do, wasn't it?

>>When the war started I did the most distastful thing I could think of - I took the day off and watched Fox News while eating nachos and drinking coke. That was what we were meant to do, wasn't it?

It's certainly what one nameless person here seemed to do.  How I still treaure their comment in the chatroom last March when they told us with a complete lack of irony, "I thought the second's night's bombing of Bagdhad was the most spectacular so far."

And we're their allies because...?

I refuse to believe that is anything but made up.

Please, someone, tell me it's a fake.

'cos if were not...

It makes the Sunday Post seem erudite. (Heh, not that I'm looking for a reaction)

Well, it is a Murdoch mouthpiece.

Murdoch, the man who suggested that the BBC should be forced to sell all its successful programmes to him at knock down prices.

Just that story

Link: howling mad Murdoch

The Sunday Post is better than it used to be. Well, a bit.

Anyway, I can't hear that news report due to the lack of a sound card.

Any chance someone could transcribe a few sentences for me?

- Trout

Yeah, you've got to view what that creep's saying in light of Fox owner Murdoch's long history of Beeb-bashing.

thank god im a good girl!

Link: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp

That's pretty shocking and exactly what Murdoch would like to see in this country.

Rupert Murdoch HATES the BBC and wants it killed of ASAP.  In the meantime he'd settle for its programs cheap and believes that they shouldn't be allowed to make popular programmes.  As The Sun supports Tony Blair, it all makes for ucomfortable politics.  You can bet some of the current Labour government's proposed ?260 Million fine on the BBC will end up in his direction.

I boycott all Murdoch papers and refuse to get Sky.  It seems hysterical, buy I think Murdoch's a greater threat to democracy in this country than Saddam Hussein ever was.

Lastly that clip, infuriating though it was, is a sharp reminder of why we need the BBC.

Could someone summarise the Fox report for me, as I don't have any speaker or headphones at work and can't hear whats being said. Plus, I haven't watched a Fox channel since I 'broke' that TV when I was staying in this hotel in New York.

(My advice is to ignore these people and don't let them wind you up, as it only encourages them. Alternatively, try sending hate-mail to Rupert Murdoch. Thats what I did with Richard Littlejohn and it worked wonders for me.)

tis unbelievable.  I'm not giving up sky yet though, sorry PVS.

Basically, it is a couple of minutes of xenophobic BBC bashing.

It includes expressions such as

"Gilligan (the BBC reporter) was anti-American and pro-Iraqi"

"frothing anti-American sentiment"

and so on

That CANT be a serious news report.
I sit here in utter shock and disbelief.

Wul. (being rather serious for once)

Doesn't he look and sound like the Senator Kelly charcter from the first Xmen movie during his anti-mutant tirade?

The tone and writing is unbelievable I can't wait to find out what the yanks I know think of this guy, it'll help me know how to deal with them in future.

Read some very depressing news that the Beeb is now reading government press-statements verbatum and memos are flying around that there needs to be more 'understanding' and 'respect' regarding politions...

In the mean time have you seen the new look ITV news? It's exactly like The Day Today in looks tone and content!

I also liked the bit where he tells his viewers that Gilligan was in Baghdad just before it fell and making pro-Iraqi reports about how Sadaam's boys were winning the war.

The irony of this guy crowing about the Beeb being caught out out lying, while talking completely false nonsense like this, really quite beggars belief.

No, that's your choice WoD.  I watch it when I'm at my brothers for the Simpsons, I just wouldn't want to give him any money myself.

Incidentally you sods had better be grateful.  This doesn't capture any of the aggressivenss, and childishness of the report.  The reporter really is a twat.

My word, well today the BBC was forced to pay up for it's blatant anti-americanism before and during the iraq war.  A frothing at the mouth anti-americanism that was obsessive, irrational and dishonest.  The BBC, the Beeb, was one of the worst offenders in the British press because it felt entitled to not only pilory America, Americans and George W Bush but also felt entitled to lie, and when caught lying, felt entitled to defend it's lying reporters and executives.

The incident involved the reporter Andrew Gilligan who made a fool out of hismelf in Bagdad when the American invasion actually arrived in the Iraqi capital.  Gilligan, pro-Iragi and Anti-American insisted on the air that the Iraqi Army was heroically repulsing an incompetant American  Miltary.  Video from our own Greg Kelly of the American Amry moving through Bagdad at will put the lie to that.  After the war, back in London, Gilligan got a guy named David Kelly to tell him a few things about pre-war assessments on Iraq's weapons programs and Gilligan exaggerated, LIED,  about what Kelly had told him.  Kelly committed suciced over the story and the BBC farfrom,from blaming itself insisted it's reporter had a right to lie, exaggerate, because, well, the BBC knew the war was wrong and anything they could say to underscore that point had to be right.

The British Government investigation slammed the BBC today and a Beeb executive resigned to show they got it.  But they don't.  Next time you hear the BBC bragging about how much superior the Brits are at delivering the news rather than Americans who wear 'flags in their lapels' remember it was the Beeb caught lying.

Yes, grateful, Paul. Thanks.

And fucking horrified.

I don't understand how other journalists can sleep at night when they act this way.

I know I mostly write about crap no-one cares about, but when something controversial's on the go, I find it perfectly easy not to take sides.

I'm faintly depressed by this Fox report.

- Trout

"I'm Rupert Murdoch, the evil Tyrant!"

Bit of competition for you there Trout old chap.

My god....

This is EXACTLY why I won't be helping rebuild the world once those prats have blown it up. It isn't Americans I dislike, it's people like that. I love the way he says 'lied' and 'flags in their lapels'. And the way he actually says 'but they don't'. Geez, probably the most unprofessional, inaccurate news report I've seen. Similar to the media would have us believe the Iraqi news services were broadcasting in it's inaccuracy.


GRRRRR!!!!

I think describing them as journalists is doing a disservice to the already sleazy degraded world of preofessional journalism. They give bullshit a bad name.

Well, technically, it's not a news report.  It's an open editorial piece in a news show, like a editorial in a newspaper.

But, yes, it still goes out to the viewers with the full 'authoratative' weight of the Fox Network behind it.

It's also important to note that Fox News is widely considered to be the worst and most jingoistic news service on American TV,  appealing mostly to the trailer park segment of the TV audience.

But, still...

While it's clearly deranged foam-mouthed nonsense that guy's spouting, and I'm sure comes complete with Murdoch's stamp of approval, isn't it an "opinion" slot rather than a news report as such? That's the impression I got, anyway. Any American boarders able to shed light on this thing's place in the greater scheme of Fox TV?

Grrr, Fox suck. First they almost kill two of my favourite shows, now this!! Though I am glad to hear they aren't considered one of the best news wise.

Hurrah!

Hush Gordon...one day your new owners might be a news international subsidiary..for Fox sake dont go on record criticising TMO..and I dont mean Tharg...

Wait till he's dead....thats my plan

It's like Kent Brockmann's "My Two Cents".

Wouldn't it be interesting if this sort of thing was allowed on British TV news programmes?

Hyoo on the 6'o'clock nyoos informing us about asylum-seekers, and then encouraging us to "send 'em all back" after the report?

Although the patronising, emotive and suggestive delivery of the ITN newsreaders and reporters is a step closer to this approach than the BBC.