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: Board Competition - Redesign Judge Dredd
: Mr D 11 February, 2004, 07:19:42 PM
The Task:

Ok, we all know who I'm talking about. He's one of the most popular characters in 2000AD - but let's face it, he was designed in the 70s! I'm SURE that you could improve him....
We're looking for overall look for the most part, but things that you'd change with his world to go with your new look Dredd will be a handy bonus!
Either written or drawn entries will be accepted! Give it a go!

The Prizes:

There will be 5 prizes - I'll let you know what they are soon - of various quality. The only one I can confirm before this evening when I get home is Top Ten Book 1.

The Closing Date:

This comp is going to run for a month to let everyone have a bash, and to try and make sure as few people as possible miss it! So the closing date is the 11th March 2004. Noon.

Have fun!
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: Trout 11 February, 2004, 07:27:41 PM
Ha ha!

I'll definitely enter.

I may even buy Crayola crayons just to draw him.

Well done, Dribbler!

- Trout
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: petemaskreplica 11 February, 2004, 07:30:37 PM
ooh, this is going to be fun... :)
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: ukdane 11 February, 2004, 07:34:34 PM
pete: Your dredd looks a bit tin-ny!
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: Mr D 11 February, 2004, 07:35:36 PM
A quick word on the judging too - I'll be doing it! So don't worry if a lot of people say that they don't like your entry as much as *insert other entry here* - I probably will....
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: petemaskreplica 11 February, 2004, 07:36:47 PM
But presumably whatever johnnyeyebrows comes up with is cheating, right?
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: Matt Timson 11 February, 2004, 07:57:15 PM
Of course- that goes without saying!

Maybe I'll rustle up a couple of fake IDs...
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: The Monarch 11 February, 2004, 08:00:47 PM
I think i'll have a go but err does it need to be dredd could it be a "judge"
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: Mr D 11 February, 2004, 08:07:57 PM
Hmmmmm, I think it should be Dredd really.... but I'll leave it up to you - if it's good, it'll win me over!
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: Jared Katooie 11 February, 2004, 08:08:52 PM
Great idea! I'm just entering for fun though. Give the prizes to someone more deserving.



Jared "nuclear arms" Katooie.
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: Proudhuff 11 February, 2004, 09:01:37 PM
here goes...
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: Proudhuff 11 February, 2004, 09:02:25 PM
JOKE! JOKE! put the pitchforks away!
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: esoteric ed 12 February, 2004, 02:33:20 AM
I haven't really got the time to have a real stab at this tonight, but I knocked this up for fun, nothing too radical, a mix of old, new, super hero and Chief Judge.

Ed
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: Bolt-01 12 February, 2004, 04:15:12 AM
Think I'll have a go at this.

Is there a decent image hosting site up at the mo?

Bolt-01
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: esoteric ed 12 February, 2004, 06:32:53 AM
Village photos is the one I use Bolt, they have a limted free space upload account, I think some regs here posted about some other free sites recently.


Ed
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: VampiraJen 12 February, 2004, 07:52:28 AM
hopefully ezquerra won't be to pissed with us...


yes, yes, i know i said i would like to see a revamping of the uniform.
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: Matt Timson 12 February, 2004, 12:50:12 PM
How about...


This:
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: Jared Katooie 12 February, 2004, 02:39:36 PM
Agh! No! Flashback to the 25th anniversary edition.
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: Mr D 13 February, 2004, 02:29:59 AM
Ok, initial prizes are as follows:


Gordon Rennie's Dredd Vs Death book
Our very own Gordon Rennie takes the plot of the Judge Dredd game, and makes it good! With far more backplot, and featuring all your Dredd faves, it's a really surprisingly great read!

Top Ten Book One
Need I really say any more?

Tom Strong Book 2
Alam Moore's ABC (America's Best Comic's) hero's second GN, with ANOTHER collection of great stories. And people who don't read ABC? Well, in Mr Strong's words, 'They're just scum Timmy'

Spiderman Strikes Back!
It's cheesy, it's classic, it's terrible but disturbingly watchable.... It's the original live action Spiderman movie!! Win a copy today!

The Complete Apocalypse War (unconfirmed)
Again... What more can I say?
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: Bolt-01 13 February, 2004, 04:18:26 AM
Very nice Mr D.

Mini Bolt is entering too. He's only 12.

Bolt-01
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: Mr D 13 February, 2004, 05:07:18 AM
Excellent! It's nice to see younger readers getting involved with the site a bit!
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: VampiraJen 13 February, 2004, 07:08:23 AM
i've been giving this a go, and bloody hell, it's not as easy as it seems.  hats off to ezquerra...
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: Bolt-01 13 February, 2004, 12:54:04 PM
Oh yes, its not easy.

The problem is that the basic image of Dredd is so strong, everything else comes off as diluted.

hmmm....

Bah, mini bolt has done 3, count 'em, different versions overnight. Pah!

Bolt-01
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: Dunk! 13 February, 2004, 02:49:02 PM
Interesting challenge though this is, my attempts at coming up with an image have all ended with me remembering how great it is to draw original costume Dredd and therefore doing a sketch of just that.

What to change? Erm nothing it's just too embedded in my mind. The man and the costume are one.
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: Matt Timson 13 February, 2004, 03:02:05 PM
I agree- it's very hard!  Mine looks like shit...
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: Mr D 13 February, 2004, 03:06:56 PM
This is why I'll accept text entries!! When you actually draw a new version of such an established character, it might seem 'wrong'. So I suggest you start from scratch with drawn designs (not start again, but forget his current costume entirely and build on your ideas of a good 'judge' costume) or write your ideas down!

But you don't have to
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: Trout 13 February, 2004, 03:07:11 PM
"Mini Bolt is entering too. He's only 12."

Oi!

Stewards' inquiry!

Using sympathy so your kid gets a GN that you can then read all the damn time is clearly cheating!

I demand absolute impartiality in all decisions Dribbles.

Or maybe I'll just have the Bolts dismantled...

Mwah hah hah hah hah...

- Trout
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: Jared Katooie 13 February, 2004, 03:11:37 PM
"Using sympathy so your kid gets a GN that you can then read all the damn time is clearly cheating!"

You just wish you'd thought of it yourself Troutster!

Speaking of prizes, I know I've turned them down myself but my dog is very sick and she really loves Alan Moores work...
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: Trout 13 February, 2004, 03:56:35 PM
"You just wish you'd thought of it yourself Troutster!"

Yes. So what?

Er, how do I get sympathy?

Well, my favourite torture victim died on the rack last night, and now I'm a bit bored.

Will that get me sympathy?

- Trout
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: Proudhuff 13 February, 2004, 06:52:04 PM
Didn't McGruder try this redesign before:

(http://www.2000ad.org/images/page/mech.jpg)
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: electronicpopcorn 13 February, 2004, 07:29:03 PM
done see pure easy
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: electronicpopcorn 13 February, 2004, 07:30:43 PM
man that didnt woirk shame i was skill to the max
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: esoteric ed 13 February, 2004, 10:56:22 PM
Pens and pencils came out to play in work this lunchtime and a doodling I went.

Ed :-)

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: Mr D 14 February, 2004, 02:13:29 AM
Ooh, nice! Glad it's starting to hot up now!!
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: Bolt-01 14 February, 2004, 03:36:58 AM
Trout, you should see how many design the little droid has come up with so far!

I wish I had this much time on my hands, half term has a lot to answer for!

He is yet to do one that he feels is 'worthy' though.

I just need to get an image host site sorted.

Bolt-01
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: BlackThrash 14 February, 2004, 03:40:15 AM

Link: try this

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: Bolt-01 14 February, 2004, 03:56:32 AM
Cheers BT, signed up and ready to roll.

Just need to sort my picture out now.

I just know that JohnnyEyebrows is waiting till the last day or so.

Wonder when LMS is back?

Bolt-01
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: BlackThrash 14 February, 2004, 04:01:16 AM
spoke to molcher yesterday by txt...he'd been back 12 hours then
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: Mr D 14 February, 2004, 04:08:07 AM
Well stick them all up Bolt, multiple entries are permitted!
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: VampiraJen 14 February, 2004, 07:07:12 AM
"Using sympathy so your kid gets a GN that you can then read all the damn time is clearly cheating!"

Yeah, knowing a twelve year old is a part of the competition is going to influence judgeing!

Judge:  Ach, let the kid win.

No fair.  boohoohoo...
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: Mr D 14 February, 2004, 07:25:38 AM
His age will be taken into account, obviously, but it doesn't guarantee a prize!! And there are FIVE prizes, one per person... .so get scribbling, up the odds a bit!!
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: Dudley 14 February, 2004, 07:31:38 AM
Dredd should be designed by a 12-year-old anyway.

Having met the 12-year-old in question, by the way, I can't see him taking any kind of unfair advantage of his age (like, for instance, getting artists to do extra sketches for his Dad at Dreddcon)...
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: Adrian Bamforth 14 February, 2004, 07:43:34 AM
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: Noisybast 14 February, 2004, 04:47:03 PM
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: Matt Timson 14 February, 2004, 05:07:39 PM
"I just know that JohnnyEyebrows is waiting till the last day or so."

Heh- just busy this week!

;)

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: Bolt-01 15 February, 2004, 05:12:33 PM
Okay, this is the first pic of Mini-bolts that he wanted to share with us.



He says he is not trying to score points by being young, and is fed-up that his old dad wont let him register for himself.

Minibolt (through Bolt-01)
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: Bolt-01 15 February, 2004, 05:20:14 PM
Damn, dont know how to Re-size these.

This is my take on the uniform. Well diificult to do as Carlos' design is so strong.

Ah well.



Bolt-01
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: Bolt-01 15 February, 2004, 05:23:03 PM
Help! I hate it when threads go larger than my screen!

I will replace this in a day or so, when I get the time to have a go at a colour scheme and shrink the bloomin' thing!

Sorry.

Bolt-01
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: ESCUBRIA 15 February, 2004, 07:31:50 PM
Most of these fan drawings still look like they were drawn in the 70's.

That last one even looks like he has wild west leg chaps!

The original design is timeless of course but shouldn't we be trying to design uniforms that are more reflective of how we view futuristic cop fashion from the viewpoint of 2004, not trying to remould the "Carlos" 70's look.
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: Matt Timson 15 February, 2004, 08:12:23 PM
It's a bit awkward really.  I think Carlos's original helmet design was meant to be based on a hood- as in Judge, Jury and Executioner- which is kind of hard to improve upon.

It seems logical that the character would wear some sort of helmet- if only for protection (and it's also a bit hard to get around the fact that we never see Dredd's face, so nobody seems to want to come up with a design that doesn't incorporate a way of hiding it- even though that probably wasn't part of the original brief).

You can't really go with a face covering helmet as you'd then have the problem of a totally expressionless Judge- which really only leaves a variation on the helmet he already has- or you just design him with a face and be done with it.

I think that's what I'm going to do.  If I get time!
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: Bolt-01 15 February, 2004, 09:11:48 PM
They aren't Wild west chaps, instead they are an area of increased padding (or some such...) as he rides around on a dirty great motorbike and it must really wear away at the inner thighs.

Or maybe he just likes Christina Aguilera.

Bolt-01
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: Dudley 15 February, 2004, 09:40:37 PM
> it must really wear away at the inner thighs

Certainly the reason Christina Aguilera wears 'em.
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: Jared Katooie 15 February, 2004, 11:25:50 PM
Perps?

He's gotta catch 'em all!

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: VampiraJen 16 February, 2004, 06:50:28 AM
"I hate it when threads go larger than my screen!"

it's a pisser innit?  i like mini bolts drawing, and your own.  I'm cursing at everyone who has flashy arty software on their computer, i have  none of this, you will just get a sketch from me...sigh...sketches always look crap when you scan them onto a computer....

i am having a problem though.  when i scan, the picture always emnds up bloody massive, like a billion times bigger than what i drew.  does anyone know how i fix this?
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: Buddy 16 February, 2004, 02:05:52 PM
VampiraJen, when scanning a pic for web use make sure the resolution of the image is 72 dpi.

Sounds like your resolution is bigger than required for screen use (the scanner probably defaults to 200dpi or something like that).

Hope this helps.
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: CraveNoir 16 February, 2004, 05:09:40 PM
With respect, you should really scan at a DPI higher than 72. Then you can be sure that all the details are captured from the start, and they should still be quite readable even when you've shrunk the picture.

If it's a pencil sketch, or monotone linework then you can scan in grayscale, open the saved image in an image editing program, resize it, and save this smaller version as a GIF or JPG.

A Google search for 'image editing' and 'resize' will yeild many small shareware programs that'll do the job. If you want something more robust I'd recommend downloading an evalution version of Paint Shop Pro.

Link: Paint Shop Pro

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: CraveNoir 16 February, 2004, 05:12:42 PM
Bah! This link should work.
Paint Shop Pro
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: Trout 16 February, 2004, 06:29:26 PM
I feel a bit guilty now.

Well done to Mini-Bolt, and more power to his elbow.

I'm the winner, however.

- Trout
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: VampiraJen 17 February, 2004, 07:01:55 AM
thank you, you guys are so helpful...but now i have another problem...a simple one!  How do i post imagies?  I looked at the help thingie, but found it as helpful as...something not very helpful...could someone explain it in a way my pea sized brain will understand...
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: Mr D 17 February, 2004, 08:05:15 AM
You need an image hosting service. I don't know of a good one right now, but it's been mentioned on this thread already I think. Upload your picture to this service and then write the address of the pic in the bar below your message space thing...  where it says 'optional image URL'
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: VampiraJen 17 February, 2004, 09:11:20 AM
(http://www.angelfire.com/vamp/jen_1/Revamped_compo.jpg)
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: VampiraJen 17 February, 2004, 09:13:54 AM
well fcuk me, it sodding worked!!!


sob...i'd like to thank all who helped me with recent technical problems...sob...particularlly logan...i dedicate this picture to all those who have ever had problems with their scanners and posting...sob...


...too bad it's crap.
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: Jared Katooie 17 February, 2004, 02:26:28 PM
Heehee I cant even see it!

The board is fun!
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: Dunk! 17 February, 2004, 02:58:09 PM
Vampire Jen, That's not crap, that's great.

(Thinks - Gawd my effort is found wanting)

Love the boots and the Han Solo style holster.

More, more, more.
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: W. R. Logan 17 February, 2004, 04:01:14 PM
Instead of trying to come up with a new Dredd based on what we know you should try and work off what Carlos was told back in 1976.

?When Pat Mills asked you to come up with the visuals for Judge Dredd what were his instructions if any, on how this character should look??
?I don't remember very well after so many years, but were something like this: 'is a menacing policeman dress in black and driving a motorbike'?


La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.

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: Smiley 17 February, 2004, 04:18:12 PM

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: Bolt-01 18 February, 2004, 01:45:09 AM
Evening all.

I think  MiniBolt is having a laugh with his mates at our expense.



Here he goes again.

Bolt-01


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: VampiraJen 18 February, 2004, 05:35:41 AM
"Han Solo style holster"

actually it was more lara croft but han solo sounds cooler, yes?
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: wadew 18 February, 2004, 07:36:11 AM
eh?
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: VampiraJen 18 February, 2004, 07:53:51 AM
Okay, wadew, the first thing i did was put my thumb over the upper half of his face, just to check.  is this a random face or your own interpritation?
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: wadew 18 February, 2004, 08:05:18 AM
well the little nose and the chin is kind of based on FLint's Dredd. The upper half....i could have sworn i saw a shadowy shot of Dredd's face where you saw he was basically bald with little bits of hair sticking out of his head.
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: VampiraJen 18 February, 2004, 08:34:42 AM
well, he has to be bald, if he wears the helmet all the time...
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: Bolt-01 18 February, 2004, 01:55:42 PM
Wadew: Nice pic, looks very modern.

Bolt-01
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: longmanshort 19 February, 2004, 07:45:55 AM
Wonder when LMS is back?

I've ... been away ...

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: VampiraJen 19 February, 2004, 07:50:51 AM
*Jen's vision blurs and goes green*
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: Matt Timson 19 February, 2004, 02:34:15 PM
Chrono-thief!  That was my idea!  I told you all about it next week...

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: W. R. Logan 19 February, 2004, 04:54:25 PM
Notice that a lot of the redesigns still prominently use the eagle and was just wondering if you really were doing Dredd from scratch would the eagle be as prominent. Carlos took his eagle of a Spanish coin and not from anything American and f you were coming up with Dredd?s look and not just altering what Carlos came up with in 1976 would the chains feature at all.


"You must unlearn what you have learnt."

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.

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: Jared Katooie 19 February, 2004, 06:01:09 PM
Ah, but in the absence of other distinguishing factors (like a face) the eagle has sort of become Dredds trademark.
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: Oddboy 19 February, 2004, 06:17:31 PM
Exactly - which is why that *should* change - it's a REDESIGN compo!
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: Steamboy 19 February, 2004, 06:19:38 PM
Keep the chin and all will be fine...

CU Krestel
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: Mr D 19 February, 2004, 06:24:22 PM
Learn from Logan, wise he is...
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: Jared Katooie 19 February, 2004, 06:50:06 PM
"Exactly - which is why that *should* change - it's a REDESIGN compo!"

Then by your logic we could make him a lady.

A sexy lady...

Hmm.
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: Mr D 19 February, 2004, 07:43:41 PM
If you think that'd work, it's perfectly acceptable!
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: Matt Timson 19 February, 2004, 10:51:02 PM
Haven't got time to do it properly.
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: Rio De Fideldo 19 February, 2004, 11:07:19 PM
Thats more like it.
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: Bolt-01 20 February, 2004, 12:26:27 AM
FUNT!.....

I'll be back.
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: Thread Zero 20 February, 2004, 12:45:50 AM
Carlos took his eagle of a Spanish coin

Just out of interest, Logan - have you got any idea exactly which coin he used?

Only I've got a 1957 5 ptas coin that seems to fit the bill...
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: longmanshort 20 February, 2004, 01:12:28 AM
Hah!
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: W. R. Logan 20 February, 2004, 01:39:52 AM
>Just out of interest, Logan - have you got any idea exactly which coin he used?

I know it was a coin minted in Franco?s time, all the pesetas from 1 upwards have the same Eagle on its just the number that is different, so could possibly be something like this 50 peseta coin.



La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.

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: VampiraJen 20 February, 2004, 05:26:21 AM
I'm so depressed now, as i realise it isn't original enough.  However tried to re-draw it is a less static kind of a way.  The reason i kept the eagle is because we're re-vamping dredd not the whole justice dept, and the eagle is predominant in it as a symbol of justice.

This is, of course, pish as i didn't spent any more than five minutes on it, hence the reason his arms aren't quite right, i couldn't fit his gun in and magneto has gone to town with his helmet.
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: VampiraJen 20 February, 2004, 05:28:18 AM
and since a few other people have been doing dredd without a helmet i thought i'd give it a go.

i am, of course, taking the piss.


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: VampiraJen 20 February, 2004, 05:30:05 AM
i noticed i'm the only one producing pencil only work.  how did everyone 'ink' theirs.  Is everyone here really arty and i'm the only wannabe with a sketch book and cheap pencils?
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: wadew 20 February, 2004, 10:19:20 AM
i didn't ink mine.
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: Bolt-01 20 February, 2004, 01:29:32 PM
Jen: You can ink it with anything you like, Biro, charcoal anything.

The sketch is the important thing.

This Thread ROCKS! (I think that might be the first time I've used that phrase....)

Bolt-01
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: Priv8eye 20 February, 2004, 07:14:58 PM
Can I try?

Unfortunately I am totally crap at drawing unless I am copying something so I thought I'd try the descriptive method (Mr dribbles did say it would be okay buit no-one esle has tried it yet)

OK.  First of all we see the streets of megacity 1.  A hover bike speeds down the street.  (Deliberate choice of bike over a car, and nowadays i feel that a bike would automatically hover - please note, hover not fly).  

It does have to look imposing though.  It would be broad and long - longer at the front than at the back (yeah this could be going a little phallic).  A series of high powered lights to blind/terrify the perps.  Either side would still contain the cannons and the lazers.  The bike is coloured black with gold coloured trimming.

The bike stops and Dredd gets off.  He appears big and broad and the chin is still there.  He wears a helmet (he rides abike, he comes under fire, a helmet would be sensible.)  The helmet is black with gold trim again.  it has a mic for communication. (I toyed wiht the idea of built in communication circuits built into the skull but visually this would be uninteresting.)  the helmet also has some of small camera built into it (although this could be hidden) for use to track down lost judges, see what they last saw, transmit images back to base, for use in anoying "Police camera Action" style shows.

The unifrom is unifrmly black, both shoulders, chest and back are protected by  alighter grey/black rounded padded armour (supplemented underneath by armour plateing).  This gives a greater feeling of bulk and more menacing intimidating image to scare the perps.  Smaller plates cover the abdomen.  Over the heart area is is a circular gold badge with a star within (standard police image/identity), emblazoned across the star is the name Dredd (for easy recognition by the public of who they are).  

The belt across the waist contains all the usual equipment along with one of those daysticks that snap out to full length and probably has a tazer effect to it when it strikes someone.  the belt buckle would be fasioned around an image of a bald headed eagle (another popular american image).  

A large pair of imposing, steel toecapped boots will help to finish off the image.  

Hope folk can be arsed to read all that.
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: pauljholden 20 February, 2004, 07:43:27 PM
My turn! Cor that's a lot harder than you think. Can't work out exactly where this image is stored but here's a link to it anyways. Some cools things in this thread :)

-pj

Link: http://www.pauljholden.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?pos=-39

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: johnnystress 20 February, 2004, 07:46:30 PM
Not a dredd design but it struck me that eyebrows' dredd and my space cowboy bought their bikes from the same shop:)

Link: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-12/544762/spacecowboy.jpg

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: Dunk! 20 February, 2004, 07:53:58 PM
Can't access that johnnystress something about daily user limit?
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: johnnystress 20 February, 2004, 07:55:32 PM
>:(
I really have to get internet lessons
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: Matt Timson 20 February, 2004, 08:14:36 PM
Try these guys: www.photobucket.com

Quick and easy.
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: johnnystress 20 February, 2004, 08:58:01 PM
cheers johnny
heres hoping...

theyre not exactly the same- just got a similar front engine thing going on

Link: space cowboy

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: Matt Timson 20 February, 2004, 09:19:06 PM
Bah!  I see I'm going to have to colour mine....
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: Woolly 20 February, 2004, 11:02:56 PM
Okay, well ive tried to come up with something original and failed!

So ive decided to post up something i started a couple of years ago. It was supposed to be a Jedi but went wrong, and is also not strictly speaking a redesign of dredd!
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: Woolly 20 February, 2004, 11:04:34 PM
I called it 'Inquisitor Dredd'.

Silly really...
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: VampiraJen 21 February, 2004, 04:33:44 AM
Priv8eye - i COULD be arsed to read it all and am gutted you won't draw it.

Johnny  - *mummble, mummble* and once again with the jealousy

Woolly - keeewwwwllll!

Wadew - if you didn't ink, why does it look so bloody marvelous?

Anyway, another one.  this is the last one, the one i'm reasonably happy with this one.  think of it as a journey from the dredd we know and love to the one i've 'designed' (use that word loosly)  i wasn't going to go with the round helmet thing, but it looked different to the dredd we get these days, tried to channel t-1000 and not YMCA.  have tried to go for biker boy style, leather trousers and jacket, and a few of the things i did in the last drawings.
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: Bolt-01 21 February, 2004, 06:27:24 PM
First of two from me today.

Going for something different.



Bolt-01
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: Bolt-01 21 February, 2004, 10:09:28 PM
Earth; a barren, broken land. Mutants and monsters roam freely through the ruins of the once proud cities of the future.

Law and order have long been defeated and now the only rule is that of survival.

That may be changing

Rumours speak of a newcomer to the land, a mighty warrior with a fierce mind. The rumour has begun that he is only the first, that soon the Mega-city will be rebuilt.

Dare the people hope?

The gangs of the wasteland are gathered, planning. They talk of his attacks, how he is a robot. They talk of the power of his guns and the steel of his voice.

A voice calls from the heart of the meeting. A warning is given. The gangs attack, but they are swept aside by the fury of iron, the heat of his guns.

Finally it is over, and the warrior is holding the leader of the gangs. He raises his weapon arm, smoke still rising from the chambers.

?DECISION?? Roars the massive droid, and then a nimble form climbs into view. Gasps are heard when the creature speaks.

?Guilty, by the power vested in me, I sentence you to death. Blow the creep away, Joe.?

Word spreads, a Judge is in town. And it has brought Dredd with it.







Bolt-01
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: Bart Oliver 24 February, 2004, 09:28:45 PM





Apologies to Carlos Esquerra, Mike McMahon, Cam Kennedy and Colin McNeil.

B.
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: Quirkafleeg 26 February, 2004, 03:55:52 AM
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: Bolt-01 26 February, 2004, 01:07:19 PM
Gary, that picture is scary, in a bad way.

Why does Dredd have 'white' stuff dripping from his daystick, is that subtext?

Well executed and designed, I definately would be scared of a judge with a 'face' like that.

Bolt-01
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: Jared Katooie 26 February, 2004, 03:08:23 PM
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: Woolly 26 February, 2004, 07:09:06 PM
Is my computer dodgy, or is Jared's pic just a black box?
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: Dunk! 26 February, 2004, 08:35:54 PM
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: Dunk! 26 February, 2004, 08:41:35 PM
That was my first attempt - more pattern making than redesign.

Then I read Logan's post and got thinking.

A misunderstanding over a bad telephone line gave us Godzilla and Donkey Kong so what if that had happened with Dredd.

Judge Dredd Law Nun of the future...
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: Jared Katooie 26 February, 2004, 09:02:37 PM
Holy God! How long did those take?
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: Bart Oliver 26 February, 2004, 09:42:12 PM
?Lo Dribbles, didn?t have time to write anything to accompany the entry the other day.
But there it is. Don?t have a lot of time to spend on the board at the mo? (not even to lurk..) but Longman mentioned yer thread and I just had to have a pop.

++ Judge Dredd Law Nun of the future... ++

Llol I like a lot Tulkas- inspiration for my entry came in part from the thread title itself- BOARD competition.

B.  
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: Rio De Fideldo 26 February, 2004, 10:13:30 PM
I meant to ask at the time but where is this pic from?
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: Bart Oliver 26 February, 2004, 10:19:42 PM
Rio,

Wanted to know the same thing- at a guess- I'm thinking a Captain America alt.universe spin-off mini-series type thing.

B.
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: Mr D 26 February, 2004, 10:54:04 PM
Hi all!

Not posted on this thread for a while, as I thought I'd let it grow a bit. Some magnificent ideas so far! And don't worry if you can't draw, it's ideas over artwork.

Two things I'm going to mention though, if you have any comments (or offers) then email me!

1. Judging
Ok, I originally intended to judge this myself. But I've decided that it isn't fair as I have my own preconceptions of what Dredd 'should be' from reading the stories.
Therefore, I'm going to give a group of 10 non-scrots an outline of what Dredd is supposed to be, and see what they like best. If you want them to consider your Dredd in a different light to the basic scenario, tell me!

Prizes
I only have THREE prizes now. I'll be keeping it at 3 awards unless any are donated! So it's even HARDER!
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: CraveNoir 26 February, 2004, 11:02:00 PM
I meant to ask at the time but where is this pic from?

The picture Adrian Bamforth wryly posted is of Marvel's US Agent.

His current costume has been the subject of debate on the boards/newsgroup as it appears to share some motifs with Dredd's uniform.

Link: US Agent Info

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: esoteric ed 27 February, 2004, 12:01:47 AM
There's some great ideas here, but Tulkas... those have stole it for me...awesome! wow!!!! :-)


Ed
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: Noisybast 27 February, 2004, 12:24:04 AM
Undoubtedly very good artwork, and interesting idea, but why's she wearing Bou's boots?
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: Dunk! 27 February, 2004, 02:46:14 PM
'Cos she can.
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: Noisybast 27 February, 2004, 02:57:01 PM
There'll be trouble, I'm telling you...



Great pics, though.
Barts was impressive, too. Very MacNeil, I thought.
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: Slippery PD 27 February, 2004, 03:07:54 PM
I saw a bit of Barts B&W work at Dreddcon and that was stark, dark almost cold.  Coloured it is almost the opposite.  Very Strange.  Great stuff.

Yer Slips
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: Matt Timson 28 February, 2004, 05:03:23 PM
Last minute effort on a Saturday morning.

I'm supposed to be working.
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: Matt Timson 28 February, 2004, 05:05:50 PM
And I forgot to add the zip ring at the bottom.  Arses!
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: Woolly 28 February, 2004, 05:25:53 PM
Thats a last minute effort!?!

(suddenly, woolly's world turns green...!)
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: paulvonscott 28 February, 2004, 07:53:59 PM
Okay, here's my basic idea, imagine it drawn and shaded properly.  Not sure about the shading schem, it originally was just the helemt and cloak that was black and that looked better, but saddled, I scribbled it in.

Excecutioner Dredd

Cheers

Paul

Link: http://img30.photobucket.com/albums/v91/paulvonscott/scan0075.jpg

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: paulvonscott 28 February, 2004, 07:56:44 PM
Messed that up.

Executioner Dredd...
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: esoteric ed 28 February, 2004, 08:36:41 PM
:-0
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: longmanshort 29 February, 2004, 01:10:02 AM
You're all bastards ...

Give me a moment ...
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: longmanshort 29 February, 2004, 01:10:52 AM
scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble wait a minute, that elbow doesn't look right scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble scribble erase erase erase erase erase erase scribble erase erase erase erase
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: Dudley 29 February, 2004, 01:24:15 AM
Just to remind you all - the deadline is 11th March.
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: Bolt-01 29 February, 2004, 02:17:32 AM
Never mind the Deadline Dudley, wheres my text?!

Bolt-01 :)
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: W. R. Logan 29 February, 2004, 02:40:07 PM
Thought I?d post some Dredd designs from my friend in Andorra. I reckon they could be in with a chance of winning.

(http://www.2000ad.org/images/artwork/dreddconcept1_thumb.jpg)(http://www.2000ad.org/images/artwork/dreddconcept2_thumb.jpg) (http://www.2000ad.org/images/artwork/dreddconcept3_thumb.jpg)


La Placa Rifa,
<a href= http://www.2000ad.nu/classof79/><b>W. R. Logan.</a></b>

<img src=http://www.2000ad.nu/classof79/images/Co79_logo.gif>
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: Bolt-01 29 February, 2004, 03:09:11 PM
Wow Logan , your friend seems to have a godd handle on what someone called Judge Dredd could look like. I think he stands a good chance :P

Bolt-01
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: Noisybast 29 February, 2004, 05:46:52 PM
Bah! 28 years on this poxy planet, and I still can't draw hands!
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: ESCUBRIA 29 February, 2004, 07:05:23 PM
....Judge Jeremy Beadle.
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: BlackThrash 01 March, 2004, 06:18:57 AM
OK, this is Longmanshort's entry, which he's asked me to host for him
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: longmanshort 01 March, 2004, 06:32:20 AM
Right, it's a bit messy and the anatomy's all over the shop, but here's my explanation for this one ...

I thought I'd answer two questions with this one:

1) What would Dredd look like if the characters were created now?

and

2) What would have happened if Dredd had sent Vienna to the Academy and he then copped (no pun intended) it?

Well, as far as I'm concerned, Dredd would probably be a kick-ass bitch with a big gun and even bigger attitude if the character were created today. I know this sounds an awful lot like Durham Red ... but work with me here ;o)

So there you go.

Now I have to get back to the piles of artwork I neglected in favour of trying to beat Timson's half-arsed efforts ;oP


(BTW, many thanks to loverly bloke Blackthrash for the hosting space - also to Mr Si Gurr for hosting my Dreddrophenia pic earlier ....)
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: longmanshort 01 March, 2004, 06:36:08 AM
Oh, and sorry it's a bit big ...
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: Matt Timson 01 March, 2004, 01:22:09 PM
11th March?  Arses!  I thought it was the 1st March.

Molcher- stop stealing my ideas.

Logan- your mate's crap.  Sorry- but he'll never make it.  Best he do something a bit more sensible.  Dredd, or indeed comics in general, clearly isn't his thing.

Has he thought of advertising?

;)
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: Wils 01 March, 2004, 03:07:04 PM
Damn my knackered scanners (home *and* work). :(

I'm seriously going to have to get a Wacom.
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: Jared Katooie 01 March, 2004, 03:27:17 PM
"I'm seriously going to have to get a Wacom."

Whatever that is, it sounds extremely nasty.
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: Bart Oliver 01 March, 2004, 06:43:38 PM
++ Molcher- stop stealing my ideas. ++

No other comment ;p

B.
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: Tiplodocus 01 March, 2004, 07:09:16 PM
Tell your spanish mate not to be daft, Logan.  "He looks like a fucking pirate.  I'm not writing that."
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: Wils 01 March, 2004, 10:47:12 PM
Erm...
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: Jared Katooie 01 March, 2004, 11:21:30 PM
I dont think anyone here is surprised by that.
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: Matt Timson 01 March, 2004, 11:29:52 PM
HAHAHAHAHA!  I declare that Wils is the winner!
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: wadew 02 March, 2004, 12:38:30 AM
JUDGE DREDD: Enforcing BONDAGE LAW Throughout Mega City One.

"Wearing a Crooked Leather G-string is in violation of Mega City Bondage Code 5.19/01. Ten years, CREEP!"
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: longmanshort 02 March, 2004, 01:12:25 AM
++ Molcher- stop stealing my ideas. ++

No other comment ;p

B.


Yeah, alright alright alright ... !!!!

Goodnight Vienna Dredd is a drawing based on an original idea by Oliver "me me me me" Reddings. All simularities to anything else that git has produced are purely co-incidental and merely highlight how he's just stealing my thunder ...
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: Matt Timson 02 March, 2004, 01:26:21 AM
Come on, Molcher- 'fess up!  You stole the buckles off my Dredd's boots as well...

;)

Ive decided to forgive you for yout chrono-thievery though.  Mainly because I made it up.
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: SuperSurfer 02 March, 2004, 06:57:13 AM
Here is an effort from a first timer to this board.

It's a doodle based on a thought I've been carrying around in my head for many years. The idea (if you can call it that) came about as a result of my fears when I heard there was to be a US (DC) produced version of Dredd way back in '94.

SuperSurfer
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: Bart Oliver 02 March, 2004, 03:07:02 PM
Blimey Mike, it was just a suggestion not "an original idea" by any stretch ;)

Are you still coming round fer yer tea tonight?

Mrs Molcher.
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: W. R. Logan 02 March, 2004, 03:27:08 PM
Have we yet seen anything that?s truly inspired, some good pics and some others that have raised a smile but there are a lot of pics that just rehash what we're used to seeing, the shape of Dredd?s helmet, the colour scheme, the eagle.

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.

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: Matt Timson 02 March, 2004, 03:39:06 PM
*Ahem*

Link: No eagles, no helmets.

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: W. R. Logan 02 March, 2004, 04:02:48 PM
Ok, so how about the law is faceless, where does he keep his gun 8-)

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
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: Matt Timson 02 March, 2004, 05:09:38 PM
In his pants- like a real man!

;)
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: Oddboy 02 March, 2004, 05:15:06 PM
Those boot buckles could be magnetic, then it would just cling to his leg - easy to 'unholster'.
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: Wils 02 March, 2004, 05:17:41 PM
In his pants- like a real man!

"Arse-Gun to winnits!"
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: Mr D 03 March, 2004, 08:55:56 PM
Only a week and a day left now chaps and chappettes!
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: Matt Timson 06 March, 2004, 12:04:03 AM
Just bouncing this back to the top.  Come on you stragglers- get scribblin'!
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: Mr D 06 March, 2004, 12:07:13 AM
Thanks JEB, I was just coming to do that!

We're into the last week now - less than a week to go!!

C'mon y'all! Even if you've had a go, feel free to try again!
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: Bolt-01 06 March, 2004, 03:36:38 AM
I'll be with you all soon.

So will mini bolt.

Bolt-01
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: Woolly 06 March, 2004, 09:42:53 PM
Set in a future where America has been returned to British rule after they lost the second war of independence...Lord Dredd!
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: Woolly 06 March, 2004, 09:44:34 PM
Im gonna try an get it finished before the end of the comp!
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: Bolt-01 09 March, 2004, 03:08:22 AM
BUMP!!

Tomorrow, just wait.......

Bolt-01
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: Mr D 09 March, 2004, 03:19:38 AM
TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOLKS! LESS THAN TWO DAYS LEFT!! GET SCRIBBLIN!
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: Oddboy 09 March, 2004, 02:49:51 PM
Nice plug in the Meg!
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: Matt Timson 09 March, 2004, 02:54:48 PM
Gah!  I wanted to have another go- but I've run out of time!
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: Mr D 09 March, 2004, 06:02:17 PM
Don't worry! Due to general crappiness by me (and my refusal to check the first page again) there are actually TWO DULL DAYS from precisely now!

Let the mad rush begin!!

And yes, I noticed the mention in theMeg and felt quite chuffed!
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: Woolly 10 March, 2004, 04:33:12 AM
*cough*BUMP!*cough*
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: Bolt-01 10 March, 2004, 04:41:10 AM
In 1718, an ill-assorted group of privateers and general scurvy scum made their last stand on a small island in the Caribbean against the forces of King Richard IV. Officially, they lost.
For the next 400 years, rumours abounded of a lost city of free souls hidden in the thick swamps of that same island, La Escondida. A utopian community without laws, English speaking, but with strange devices unlike any of English manufacture. It was said that the pirates had used their vast wealth to buy their freedom from the British king, and had dedicated themselves to scientific endeavour. Fringe historians even speculated that the fire-weapons that had enabled the British to overcome the First American Revolt in 1778 had been of Escondidian manufacture.
In the 21st century, the Second American Revolt brought new fire from the skies. Mutation and disease followed in its wake, a gigadisaster the like of which had never been known. The non-aggression treaties between the British and Ottoman Empires collapsed, and the planet was plunged into the Great War. In the aftermath, the pirates of Escondida emerged from myth to command the North American continent.
Their anarchist police state is maintained by the rule of the Captains - unsleeping watchers of freedom. The Captains uphold the Two Articles of the Escondidan State:
1) Citizens may always be permitted to do as they please
2) No citizen may harm another nor cause another to be harmed
The penalty for breaking the articles is to be put to the sword. The penalty for plotting against the state is also to be put to the sword. The rulers of Mega-Escondida are a secretive and self-perpetuating oligarchy known as the Admirals.
The greatest of the upholders of the Articles is Captain Dredd. In anarchist Escondida, He Is The Law!




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: Bolt-01 10 March, 2004, 04:45:51 AM
The above message from another world was brught to you by

Picture

Words.
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: chimp 10 March, 2004, 06:16:28 AM
Haven't really posted much on here..... not sure if now was the best time to start:)
best
chimp
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: stront692 10 March, 2004, 06:21:31 AM
if u wait for a good time to start, that may take forever

welcome to the board, its a bit off topic and heated ocasionally but they are a lovely bunch really :o)
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: VampiraJen 10 March, 2004, 06:31:48 AM
yyyy...mmm...ccc...aaa...we're gonna hang out at the yyy...mmm....ccc....aaa....
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: chimp 10 March, 2004, 06:41:29 AM
busted!
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: Bart Oliver 10 March, 2004, 03:15:42 PM
Bolt, is Captain Dredd modelled at all on yer good self?

There's most than a passing resemblance ;)

B.
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: Bolt-01 10 March, 2004, 03:24:24 PM
Bart: lol, was it the hat that gave me away?

Or maybe the belly?

Bolt-01.
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: Woolly 10 March, 2004, 03:38:31 PM
Cant..see..pictures...at..work......GAHH!!!
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: Shakara 10 March, 2004, 04:49:23 PM
Now, I know it isn't exactly Dredd's frame, but it would work, wouldn't it?

Link: http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/art/o/w/owen/soldier.jpg.html

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: Dudley 10 March, 2004, 06:52:56 PM
Judge Dredd was conceived in 1977, at the height of one of the bleakest periods of UK civil unrest.  Strike action, race riots, even the gravediggers were on strike.  The attraction of the iron rule of the Law is very clear, and the writers' ambivalence towards to the concept makes for an unusual mixture of grit and parody.

But what is Dredd had been created 8 years later?  


To set the scene: The Falklands war has just given Britain its first unquestioned military victory in 40 years.  The miners' strike has been crushed under the stiletto heels of a newly strident capitalism, a group of hungry traders is shaking up the City, America is an aspirational dream and the threat of nuclear war with Russia seems to be receding with its new leader's talk of perestroika.  A little-known comics writer called John Wagner has been commissioned to create a "future cop" series for new launch title 2000AD.  Now read on...


Joe Dredd is cruising along in his metallic pink open-topped sky vehicle, his trademark curly blond hair smoothed back by the wind, his sleeves rolled up.  He is chatting on a futuristic hand-held communications device while his other hand expertly guides the steering wheel.  It's a beautiful day to be in Mega-City One by the beach, and Joe enjoys checking out the bikini-clad babes roller-skating past, moving to the sound of the pumping rock music from his in-car stereo.  His chin juts forward as his partner, "Funky" Giant, fills him in on an unsolved homicide.

"Yo, baby", says Giant, "We got a ten-four, looks like the creep's comin straight outta the Undercity".  

Dredd pulls the wheel and the car swings sharply round, disrupting traffic on the freeway.  A ten-four meant an unauthorised homicide of an Overdweller by a Norm or, in this case, someone even lower down the food chain.  

This was why his father, Commissioner Fargo, had rebranded the privatised NYPD as the Judge Force in the first place.  It was a way of recognising that the trader overlords of the city were now officially above the Law.  Old "crimes" such as insider dealing or fraud could be dealt with internally, and the mega-city didn't have the funding to lock up creeps who committed anti-social acts.  The Judges united the functions of investigator, prosecutor, judge and executioner in one easy-to handle package.  A Judge was trained almost from the moment of birth to maintain rigid discipline among the Norms, or "citizens" as they had once been called.  To be a Judge was to serve, unquestioningly, but also to be the only order of Elite to mix with all levels of society.

Banishment to the Undercity was one of the three sentences that Judges were empowered to carry out: the others were fines and immediate execution.  The Undercity, formed by concreting over ghetto neighbourhoods, was a savage environment, ruled by gangs who didn't even fear the Judges.  For an Undercity dweller to have somehow broken through the carefully-guarded walls of the Elite and even worse to have successfully escaped was bad enough.  A homicide was almost unthinkable.

Joe calls Maria, his landlady and occasional girlfriend.  "Sorry, sweetheart, but I'm gonna havta take a raincheck on that pizza.  We got one bad case goin' down out here."

Dredd pulls his Lawgiver from inside his jacket, and sets the digital face to "Kill"...
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: Mr D 10 March, 2004, 07:08:32 PM
We are NOW IN THE LAST DAY!
I've collected all the entries so far (including images that don't appear now for whatever reason) but I'm hoping there will be a few more to add to it! There'll be a judging period of a day or two, then the results will be announced.

Get cracking!! It Ends...

....at noon tomorrow.
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: Oddboy 10 March, 2004, 07:15:09 PM
I suppose I aught to submit this...
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: Dudley 10 March, 2004, 08:18:33 PM
"If that's justice, I'm a banana!"
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: Matt Timson 10 March, 2004, 11:43:04 PM
All Judges are cloned from existing gene stock, with weaknesses such as compassion, mercy and hesitation completely bred out of them.  They are bio-mechanically engineered to be born with various cybernetic enhancements (such as their eyes, for example).  They are many times stronger than a normal man, feel no pain and are highly resistant to impact, heat, cold, radiation- you name it.  There are thirteen standard models, the thirteenth being the most ruthless, efficient and downright brutal: the Dredd model.  Even other Judges are nervous around a Dredd.

There are currently 954 Dredds out on the streets of Mega City 1, the designation of our future cop is Judge Dredd918.  He's seen a lot of action and believes firmly in 'shoot first, question whatever's left.  Even as other Judges are uneasy around them, most Dredds are equally uneasy around Dredd918.

HE is the Law- and you'd better drokkin' believe it...

Both Lawmaster and Lawgiver will work only for a Judge and interface directly with the user.  For example, a Lawgiver has no visible trigger and will only fire under the correct thought impulses passed through the sensors built into it and a judges hand.  These same sensors allow a judge to 'see' exactly where the Lawgiver is aiming.  The Lawgiver itself fires a high intensity plasma beam that will cut through just about anything.  It has no minimum setting.

Judges do not use or need batons or handcuffs- you break the law, you will be found guilty and executed on the spot.  There are no minor misdemeanors in Mega City 1- all crimes are equal and the sentence is always the same.  Death.
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: Dudley 11 March, 2004, 04:56:01 AM
Thanks to the lightening drawing reflexes of one of the board's finest, this entry is being resubmitted, with illustration...


Judge Dredd was conceived in 1977, at the height of one of the bleakest periods of UK civil unrest. Strike action, race riots, even the gravediggers were on strike. The attraction of the iron rule of the Law is very clear, and the writers' ambivalence towards to the concept makes for an unusual mixture of grit and parody.

But what if Dredd had been created 8 years later?

To set the scene: The Falklands war has just given Britain its first unquestioned military victory in 40 years. The miners' strike has been crushed under the stiletto heels of a newly strident capitalism, a group of hungry traders is shaking up the City, America is an aspirational dream and the threat of nuclear war with Russia seems to be receding with its new leader's talk of perestroika. A little-known comics writer called John Wagner has been commissioned to create a "future cop" series for new launch title 2000AD. Now read on...


Joe Dredd is cruising along in his metallic pink open-topped sky vehicle, his trademark curly blond hair smoothed back by the wind, his sleeves rolled up. He is chatting on a futuristic hand-held communications device while his other hand expertly guides the steering wheel. It's a beautiful day to be in Mega-City One by the beach, and Joe enjoys checking out the bikini-clad babes roller-skating past, moving to the sound of the pumping rock music from his in-car stereo. His chin juts forward as his partner, "Funky" Giant, fills him in on an unsolved homicide.

"Yo, baby", says Giant, "We got a ten-four, looks like the creep's comin straight outta the Undercity".

Dredd pulls the wheel and the car swings sharply round, disrupting traffic on the freeway. A ten-four means an unauthorised homicide of an Overdweller by a Norm or, in this case, someone even lower down the food chain.

This was why his father, Commissioner Fargo, had rebranded the privatised NYPD as the Judge Force in the first place. It was a way of recognising that the trader overlords of the city were now officially above the Law. Old "crimes" such as insider dealing or fraud could be dealt with internally, and the mega-city didn't have the funding to lock up creeps who committed anti-social acts. The Judges united the functions of investigator, prosecutor, judge and executioner in one easy-to handle package. A Judge was trained almost from the moment of birth to maintain rigid discipline among the Norms, or "citizens" as they had once been called. To be a Judge was to serve, unquestioningly, but also to be the only order of Elite to mix with all levels of society.

Banishment to the Undercity was one of the three sentences that Judges were empowered to carry out: the others were fines and immediate execution. The Undercity, formed by concreting over ghetto neighbourhoods, was a savage environment, ruled by gangs who didn't even fear the Judges. For an Undercity dweller to have somehow broken through the carefully-guarded walls of the Elite and even worse to have successfully escaped was bad enough. A homicide was almost unthinkable.

Joe calls Maria, his sexy young Italian landlady (and occasional girlfriend). "Sorry, sweetheart, but I'm gonna havta take a raincheck on that pizza. We got one bad case goin' down out here."

Dredd pulls his Lawgiver from inside his jacket, and sets the digital face to "Kill"...



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: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Banners 11 March, 2004, 05:31:52 AM
This is really annoying for someone who can only draw Judge Dredd, and then - only just. However, I hope the competition judges take note of the wonderfully-detailed computer colouring.

Anyway, I figure if JD was concieved now, the uniform would be a lot more safety-conscious. It seems to me that the current outfit really isn't very handy when Judge Dredd has to do, um, stewarding.

M@

Link: http://www.mbanners.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/dredd.jpg

: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Banners 11 March, 2004, 05:32:31 AM
Wrong box.

M@
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Mr D 11 March, 2004, 05:36:22 PM
Only 20 minutes left folks!
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Dudley 11 March, 2004, 05:51:43 PM
IthinkJudgeDreddshouldbealittleboywhoisgenetiscallyprogrammedtodamnrunningoutoftime....
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Mr D 11 March, 2004, 06:02:31 PM
COMPETITION ENDS!

I'll be back with a list of contestants a little later on. Then their entries will be passed onto the REAL judges

:-)
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Bart Oliver 11 March, 2004, 09:09:32 PM
++ was it the hat that gave me away? Or maybe the belly? ++

Well actually Bolt it was the chin. No seriously.


B.
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Dudley 11 March, 2004, 09:12:53 PM
On that names of competitors list:

For the first of our joint entries, Bolt had the original inspiration, on the second the first idea was mine.  

Therefore entry 1 = Boltley
Entry 2 = Dud-01
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: W. R. Logan 11 March, 2004, 09:55:39 PM
someone should copy the pics and put them together for a page on the site.

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Mr D 11 March, 2004, 10:11:05 PM
Not forgetting the text entries!
I've got them all, but as for doing a page..... I have no idea how!! I will be doing a thread with each picture, 'judges marks' and any relevant comments.

Can y'all tell me if this is right? Say if you're on this list but shouldn't be, and if I've missed you!

Bartdiaz
Blackthrash
Bolt-01
Chimp
Dudley
Esoteric Ed
Gary Wilkinson
Jaredkatooie
Johnnyeyebrows
Longmanshort
Mbanners
Mini-Bolt
Noisybast
Pj
Priv8eye
Paulvonscott
Shakara
Supersurfer
Therev
Tulkas
Vampirajen
Wadew
Wils
Woolly

Izzat right?

Link: Bony Fella

: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: VampiraJen 11 March, 2004, 10:24:49 PM
this thread will self destruct in

5

4

3

2

1

BOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Mr D 11 March, 2004, 11:18:28 PM
Huh? Why did a link to 'Bony Fella' get included?

Er, I can't see anywhere where he's entered the competition, so disregard that - is the REST of the list right?
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Bolt-01 11 March, 2004, 11:26:38 PM
Good luck Everybody!

Bolt-01
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Noisybast 13 March, 2004, 04:13:38 PM
So, er... when do we see the results?

I need to know when to start signing JohhnyEyebrows up for every spam list I can find...
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Mr D 13 March, 2004, 06:34:44 PM
Hopefully by Monday. Wake has very kindly said he may be able to put them up as a 'proper' page on the website once the results are in.
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Matt Timson 13 March, 2004, 11:55:48 PM
"I need to know when to start signing JohhnyEyebrows up for every spam list I can find"

OI!  It's about ideas as much as ability you know!

Seriously, I know I draw for a living- but this kind of thing is as much fan art/fic to me as it is to the next man- (my pro work is nothing like this- see attached) and I'll be *totally* out of my depth when somebody organises a 3D comp!

To be honest, I usually only enter these things for the fun of it (except the prog 2 comp- I *really* wanted that fecker!), so I don't mind not being considered for a prize.

Well- not too much anyway!

;)

I reckon Wils has it in the bag anyway...
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Bolt-01 14 March, 2004, 12:51:36 AM
"Come on Anderson! They're getting away!"

"Oh Dredd, if only you had woken me from my come before Death had attached the childrens home, then we would have been able to do more than chase him around for a couple of progs before recapturing him and letting me go back to sleep!"

"errr, right."

Bolt-01
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Wils 14 March, 2004, 01:10:35 AM
if only you had woken me from my come before Death had attached the childrens home

What a completely surreal picture that sentence paints. :)
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Bolt-01 14 March, 2004, 01:32:08 AM
BWAA HAA HAA!

That sentence works BETTER that way!

LOL!

Bolt-01: What a twit!
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: James 14 March, 2004, 01:33:10 AM
"To be honest, I usually only enter these things for the fun of it (except the prog 2 comp- I *really* wanted that fecker!)"

Was that the Dredd sans helmet comp that you won? I got the 2nd prize, Prog 2, and as much as I appreciate winning it, you sound like you would appreciate it more. Drop me a line and see if we can do a deal.
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Bolt-01 14 March, 2004, 01:00:31 PM
Y'see folks. Thats a nice offer.

This board is soo much better when people are like that.

This is the best thread so far this year! and gets the monkey in a hat seal of approval!

Bolt-01
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Woolly 14 March, 2004, 04:55:13 PM
"This is the best thread so far this year! and gets the monkey in a hat seal of approval!"


Damn right!

Theres some seriously good talent on this thread, especially IMHO JEB's stuff.
It'd be an injustice to him if Tharg didnt pick up on this!
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Matt Timson 14 March, 2004, 06:16:43 PM
Que?  I won the prog 2, James- I've been proudly showing it to anybody who'll look for ages!  Did Thrashy give *TWO* of them away or what?!?

This has been a brilliant thread- I like stuff like this.

Cheers all.
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Noisybast 14 March, 2004, 06:21:14 PM
"OI! It's about ideas as much as ability you know!"

Bah! I'm damned on two counts!

Lemme see now, cheap viagra: check!
extra girth: check!
hatless monkeys: Hmmm, maybe a step too far? Nah, Check!
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: johnnystress 15 March, 2004, 08:02:52 PM
Hey eyebrows!
You should post your ape/gorilla/monkey in hat here;


http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=36457

Link: http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=36457

: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: VampiraJen 15 March, 2004, 08:26:49 PM
"OI! It's about ideas as much as ability you know!"

"Bah! I'm damned on two counts!"

as am i

:(

note to self: be more creative with next compo...
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Woolly 15 March, 2004, 08:42:40 PM
Dont forget, you can start working on your designs/ideas for Design-a-Baddie!

Coming soon (well, when this ones been judged, anyway...)
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Mr D 16 March, 2004, 02:46:26 AM
Hi everyone!
Well, the results are in!
I've send the info off to Wake, but I'm not saying anything till I've heard from him, so :-P

I sat in on the sesh, but only to answer questions like: 'Who's Vienna then?' and 'Who's the bloke with a dial on his head?'.
5 and a half hours. FIVE AND A HALF HOURS!!!

Many pints later, the judges shuffled home, leaving me with 5 sides of A4 covered in scribbles, drawing and god-knows what. Luckily, they had appointed a relatively sober 'Chief Judge' at my suggestion, and he'd rated the entries as they went through, taken votes, and done a great job. He even wrote a final comment for each and every one! In a scribble though.

I've spent the last 3 hours writing it in neat in an email, and I've now sent it and ALL the pics (save Wadews which has gone missing) and the text entries, and....

Well, watch this space!

Dribbles
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Bolt-01 16 March, 2004, 03:20:25 AM
Dribbles: good work fella!

Bolt-01
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Mr D 16 March, 2004, 04:40:50 AM
It's been a laugh actually... Some of the comments are funny - but I urge people not to take some of them too seriously. Every picture had a huge admirer, for whatever reason, but they were possibly overruled!

And Mini-Bolt's gun-arm  thing caused a lot of drunken fun.... 10 grown men shooting at each other over the table, holding various items in their sleeve to make it look like they have various attachments....

Drunks!
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: esoteric ed 16 March, 2004, 06:13:18 AM
;-)

Link: From the Man....

: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: VampiraJen 16 March, 2004, 06:55:49 AM
"Dont forget, you can start working on your designs/ideas for Design-a-Baddie!"

Yes, i've heard about the design a baddie, question: do we get a blurb on the badguy(s), a bit of backstory, or are we being TOTALLY origional?

or do most people just want to get this one out of the way first and not think about the next one.
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Mr D 16 March, 2004, 06:58:04 AM
Don't worry Jen, this one is all but over!
Thanks to Wake's ridiculously great Web-FU skills, the 'results' page will be Go! very soon! And I know the winners you lot, so

:-P
:-P
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: VampiraJen 16 March, 2004, 06:58:35 AM
Ed, just followed the link...


AAAAIIIIEEE!!!  RUUUUN!!!  SAVE YOURSELVES BEFORE THE LAW GETS YOU!!!!


Seriously (no really) though, that was funny as hell...hehehe...
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: VampiraJen 16 March, 2004, 06:59:59 AM
:-P yourself
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Woolly 16 March, 2004, 03:29:46 PM
Jen, Ive decided that the Design-a-Baddie comp will be JUST Dredd's world baddies to stop it becomming too big!

ANY entry will be considered, provided it is an original idea! Artwork, description, photo montage - YOU decide!

All im waiting for is the results for this comp' to be announced...
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Proudhuff 18 March, 2004, 09:51:37 PM
any news?

this was about to drop off
: Re: Board Competition - Redesign J...
: Mr D 18 March, 2004, 09:59:54 PM
The results are on a seperate thread now. And Woolly's design a baddie comp is running.

He he, this post might make this thread ten pages.

SCORE