Title: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 06:30:21 AM
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 06:30:21 AM
Basically the bloodline stuff is some of the most exciting Dredd I've read, and I'm guessing a lot of people have missed some or all of it over the years. I think a Bloodline Extreme Edition would be a BLOODY good read AND allow people to understand the way it has all gone.
Text features to fill in areas like Oz, Necropolis and that Judge Clone mission to the Cursed Earth. Maybe with some important panels and pages reprinted.
Then all the bloodline shorts. Even the original Rico stopry would be nice.
Not sure if there would be room for any vienna stuff, but that would be good too.
Text features to fill in areas like Oz, Necropolis and that Judge Clone mission to the Cursed Earth. Maybe with some important panels and pages reprinted.
Then all the bloodline shorts. Even the original Rico stopry would be nice.
Not sure if there would be room for any vienna stuff, but that would be good too.
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 06:39:26 AM
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 06:39:26 AM
Starting With...
The Return of Rico 1 episode (Prog 30) 6 pages
Vienna 1 episode (Prog 116) 6 pages
The Return of Rico 1 episode (Prog 30) 6 pages
Vienna 1 episode (Prog 116) 6 pages
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 06:41:30 AM
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 06:41:30 AM
Some Judge Rico stuff:
Blood Cadets 3 episodes (Progs 1186 to 1188) 18 pages
Leaving Rowdy 1 episode (Prog 1280) 12 pages
Blood Cadets 3 episodes (Progs 1186 to 1188) 18 pages
Leaving Rowdy 1 episode (Prog 1280) 12 pages
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Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 06:45:31 AM
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 06:45:31 AM
Some Kraken Stuff (91):
Bloodline 2 episodes (Progs 583 to 584) 18 pages
The Shooting Match 1 episode (Prog 650) 6 pages
Tale of the Dead Man 7 episodes (Progs 662 to 668) 54 pages
By Lethal Injection 2 episodes (Progs 669 to 670) 13 pages
Starting to think that you really need a Bloodline Book 1, and then follow that up sometime later with more recent stuff.
Bloodline 2 episodes (Progs 583 to 584) 18 pages
The Shooting Match 1 episode (Prog 650) 6 pages
Tale of the Dead Man 7 episodes (Progs 662 to 668) 54 pages
By Lethal Injection 2 episodes (Progs 669 to 670) 13 pages
Starting to think that you really need a Bloodline Book 1, and then follow that up sometime later with more recent stuff.
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 06:48:01 AM
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 06:48:01 AM
The Kraken stuff with articles and excerpts from the rest of the stuff would be good on it's own.
You could maybe add the first Rico story in, but you could also make a pretty good Rico Dredd/Judge Rico/Vienna one.
5 posts in a row, that's enough to be declared insane. Cheers ;)
You could maybe add the first Rico story in, but you could also make a pretty good Rico Dredd/Judge Rico/Vienna one.
5 posts in a row, that's enough to be declared insane. Cheers ;)
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Post by: W. R. Logan on 26 February, 2004, 07:17:59 AM
Post by: W. R. Logan on 26 February, 2004, 07:17:59 AM
Just have to decide on which aspects of the Bloodline you wanna focus on, Kraken, Rico, Vienna or ?new? Rico?
Bloodline
2 episodes
Progs 583 to 584
18 pages
The Shooting Match
1 episode
Prog 650
6 pages
Tale of the Dead Man
7 episodes
Progs 662 to 668
54 pages
By Lethal Injection
2 episodes
Progs 669 to 670
13 pages
Dredd Angel
7 episodes
Progs 377 to 383
40 pages
Blood Cadets
3 episodes
Progs 1186 to 1188
18 pages
Sector House
8 episodes
Progs 1215 to 1222
48 pages? (not listed so guessing the number of pages)
Leaving Rowdy
1 episode
Prog 1280
12 pages
Vienna
1 episode
Prog 116
6 pages
Blood & Duty
2 episodes
Progs 1300 to 1301
13 pages
The Satanist 7 episodes
Progs 1350 to 1356
42 pages
The Return of Rico
1 episode
Prog 30
6 pages
Script: Pat Mills, Artist: Mike McMahon,
Flashback 2099: The Return of Rico
3 episodes
Progs 950 to 952
18 pages
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Bloodline
2 episodes
Progs 583 to 584
18 pages
The Shooting Match
1 episode
Prog 650
6 pages
Tale of the Dead Man
7 episodes
Progs 662 to 668
54 pages
By Lethal Injection
2 episodes
Progs 669 to 670
13 pages
Dredd Angel
7 episodes
Progs 377 to 383
40 pages
Blood Cadets
3 episodes
Progs 1186 to 1188
18 pages
Sector House
8 episodes
Progs 1215 to 1222
48 pages? (not listed so guessing the number of pages)
Leaving Rowdy
1 episode
Prog 1280
12 pages
Vienna
1 episode
Prog 116
6 pages
Blood & Duty
2 episodes
Progs 1300 to 1301
13 pages
The Satanist 7 episodes
Progs 1350 to 1356
42 pages
The Return of Rico
1 episode
Prog 30
6 pages
Script: Pat Mills, Artist: Mike McMahon,
Flashback 2099: The Return of Rico
3 episodes
Progs 950 to 952
18 pages
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 07:40:05 AM
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 February, 2004, 07:40:05 AM
Should have left the lists to the professionals I guess ;)
That's a good point Logan, and one I was drifing towards. Personally a Rico Dredd or a Kraken would would suit me. As I think Judge Rico and Vienna may be on the whole too recent.
I'd love to see maybe a new story from Wagner (has to be Wagner for this one) in any potential bloodline Extreme. Maybe see Rico Dredd in action as a Judge or add a bit more to Kraken.
That would be worth the price of admission alone.
That's a good point Logan, and one I was drifing towards. Personally a Rico Dredd or a Kraken would would suit me. As I think Judge Rico and Vienna may be on the whole too recent.
I'd love to see maybe a new story from Wagner (has to be Wagner for this one) in any potential bloodline Extreme. Maybe see Rico Dredd in action as a Judge or add a bit more to Kraken.
That would be worth the price of admission alone.
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: Devons Daddy on 26 February, 2004, 11:02:07 AM
Post by: Devons Daddy on 26 February, 2004, 11:02:07 AM
i like the idea. but given the current arc of scripts i wonder if this may be a little premature.
had it been ran prior yes wonderful idea.as we have just enjoyed with bill savage.
i would like to see this in the coming years. before we finally get the long awaited/feared epic.
when we finally say farewell to the origanl dredd in some way.
had it been ran prior yes wonderful idea.as we have just enjoyed with bill savage.
i would like to see this in the coming years. before we finally get the long awaited/feared epic.
when we finally say farewell to the origanl dredd in some way.
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: Priv8eye on 26 February, 2004, 02:52:00 PM
Post by: Priv8eye on 26 February, 2004, 02:52:00 PM
Sorry but I've missed a few years in here somewhere. What I get for leaving the fold I guess. Kraken I'm well aware of, Rico (new) I'm just getting aquinted with, but who is Vienna? I've heard the name a few times recently.
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Post by: ukdane on 26 February, 2004, 02:53:10 PM
Post by: ukdane on 26 February, 2004, 02:53:10 PM
The Judge Dredd Mega-Special Nr 3 contains a Justice Dept. Report by CJ Silver all about the bloodline (as it stood in 1990).
The bibliography lists the following as important events leading to Necropolis.
Return of Rico (30,31)
A Case For Treatment (389)
Revolutions (531-533)
Oz (545-570)
Bloodline (583-584)
Shooting Match (650)
The Letter (661)
Tale Of The Deadman (662-668)
Lethal Injection (669-671)
Can't recall how many of these have to do with Bloodline, and hom many are more "Necropolis-specific"
The Mega Special #2 contains data on the democracy movement, (which could make a great EE), and the Justice System.
The bibliography lists the following as important events leading to Necropolis.
Return of Rico (30,31)
A Case For Treatment (389)
Revolutions (531-533)
Oz (545-570)
Bloodline (583-584)
Shooting Match (650)
The Letter (661)
Tale Of The Deadman (662-668)
Lethal Injection (669-671)
Can't recall how many of these have to do with Bloodline, and hom many are more "Necropolis-specific"
The Mega Special #2 contains data on the democracy movement, (which could make a great EE), and the Justice System.
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Post by: Jared Katooie on 26 February, 2004, 03:17:08 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 26 February, 2004, 03:17:08 PM
"who is Vienna?"
Rico 1's daughter and Dredds niece. Created by Pat Mills aaages ago (Logan?) and reappeared later in a surprise story by Wagner where he made the idea make sense continuity-wise.
Vienna featured recently in "the satanist" (Logan?) which I wont spoil but dealt with Dredd's reluctance to get involved in Viennas life and it's consequences.
As with the Rico 2 stories these are must-have Dredd tales. Superb stuff.
J.
Rico 1's daughter and Dredds niece. Created by Pat Mills aaages ago (Logan?) and reappeared later in a surprise story by Wagner where he made the idea make sense continuity-wise.
Vienna featured recently in "the satanist" (Logan?) which I wont spoil but dealt with Dredd's reluctance to get involved in Viennas life and it's consequences.
As with the Rico 2 stories these are must-have Dredd tales. Superb stuff.
J.
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 26 February, 2004, 04:38:44 PM
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 26 February, 2004, 04:38:44 PM
Vienna 1 episode (Prog 116) 6 pages
Script: John Wagner, Artist: Ian Gibson
Featuring: First appearance of Dredd^s niece, Vienna Dredd
Script: John Wagner, Artist: Ian Gibson
Featuring: First appearance of Dredd^s niece, Vienna Dredd
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: W. R. Logan on 26 February, 2004, 06:19:30 PM
Post by: W. R. Logan on 26 February, 2004, 06:19:30 PM
>Rico 1's daughter and Dredd?s niece. Created by Pat Mills aaages ago (Logan?) and reappeared later in a surprise story by Wagner where he made the idea make sense continuity-wise.
Vienna first appeared in Prog 116 by John Wagner & Ian Gibson
The discrepancy in continuity was finally resolved by Wagner in ?Blood & Duty? Prog 1300 - 1301
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Vienna first appeared in Prog 116 by John Wagner & Ian Gibson
The discrepancy in continuity was finally resolved by Wagner in ?Blood & Duty? Prog 1300 - 1301
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: Dudley on 26 February, 2004, 06:30:04 PM
Post by: Dudley on 26 February, 2004, 06:30:04 PM
This is a damn good idea - write to Tharg and tll him!
(BTW, Tharg is listed in the "where are they now? section of the icons page)
(BTW, Tharg is listed in the "where are they now? section of the icons page)
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Post by: Woolly on 26 February, 2004, 06:58:07 PM
Post by: Woolly on 26 February, 2004, 06:58:07 PM
This must be released!
I suggest we all send contact emails to Tharg thru the site, in the hope of pissing him off to the point where he releases it just to shut us up!
Or something like that.
I suggest we all send contact emails to Tharg thru the site, in the hope of pissing him off to the point where he releases it just to shut us up!
Or something like that.
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 26 February, 2004, 07:14:31 PM
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 26 February, 2004, 07:14:31 PM
Yeah, it's a great idea. Some of these are things that I've wanted collected for a while but that's a mighty good list. The Blood Cadets/SectorHouse/Leaving would make a fine graphic novel actually.
Don't want to hijack the thread but love in the big meg could be a fun E.E. Bella Bagleys three tales could bookend the special with perhaps that Robo-lover story from v4 Meg and other tales that touch on the subject. As long as there were a Walter tale to show his love for Dredd I'd be happy.
Don't want to hijack the thread but love in the big meg could be a fun E.E. Bella Bagleys three tales could bookend the special with perhaps that Robo-lover story from v4 Meg and other tales that touch on the subject. As long as there were a Walter tale to show his love for Dredd I'd be happy.
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: Bolt-01 on 01 March, 2004, 03:05:25 AM
Post by: Bolt-01 on 01 March, 2004, 03:05:25 AM
The EE format is an excellent showcase for 'unusual' reprint material, however Rebellion try to use the EE to enhance something in the 'Jump-on', hence Savage this time.
The next one is due out at the end of May, IIRC, so does anybody know what else apart from Savage is in the next jump-on?
Or am I being thick? Chopper is due back isn't he?
Bolt-01
The next one is due out at the end of May, IIRC, so does anybody know what else apart from Savage is in the next jump-on?
Or am I being thick? Chopper is due back isn't he?
Bolt-01
Title: Re: Bloodline for Extreme Edition!...
Post by: opaque on 01 March, 2004, 03:10:24 AM
Post by: opaque on 01 March, 2004, 03:10:24 AM
No we don't want an EE of the Bloodline threads we want a nice big GN of it. Think the Making of DvD but A4 size.
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Post by: ESCUBRIA on 01 March, 2004, 03:54:25 AM
Post by: ESCUBRIA on 01 March, 2004, 03:54:25 AM
I don't really care how the Bloodline stories come out, it would just be nice to have them collected. Though I don't like the new Titan reprints in general because they aren't printed on the right paper for ink work like the old original Titan books were, on matte card paper instead of the new glossy shiny stuff which loses some of the tones.
The Titan reprint of collected Halo Jones was terrible, the original Titan books are far better.
Extreme editions are ideal for this sort of thing, they can be mass produced and get everyone clued up to what exactly is going on, especially as Dredd is becoming increasingly complicated.
The Titan reprint of collected Halo Jones was terrible, the original Titan books are far better.
Extreme editions are ideal for this sort of thing, they can be mass produced and get everyone clued up to what exactly is going on, especially as Dredd is becoming increasingly complicated.
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Post by: ESCUBRIA on 01 March, 2004, 04:02:21 AM
Post by: ESCUBRIA on 01 March, 2004, 04:02:21 AM
That original "Bloodline" story in progs 583-584 concerning Kraken is seriously powerful stuff, as good as the original "Return of Rico", makes the hair stand on the back my neck like no other comic for it's intense characterisation and closeness of the "bloodline" clones; and Simpson's art is fantastic. Two of the most memorable progs I own.
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Post by: esoteric ed on 01 March, 2004, 04:34:25 AM
Post by: esoteric ed on 01 March, 2004, 04:34:25 AM
I consider the ongoing story arc involving Dredd's clones and kin throughout the years will become higher profile as Dredd ages and we see more of these clones hit the streets in various tales as we are right now... a collected works would be ideal for all, the whole back story always raises questions and "Bloodlines" would be ideal to provide the answers and certainly something I'd certainly buy.
Ed
Ed