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Title: First DC collection cover image...
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 15 June, 2004, 09:12:19 PM
Sinister Dexter: Gunshark Vacation

Looks pretty good, and I'm almost positive it's been designed by the 2000AD editorial staff. The "Gunshark Vacation" text is pretty nifty (love the fin!), but the logo across the top is a little iffy.

For anyone with worse eyesight than me, the 2000AD sticker/logo reads:

"The UK's greatest comics, now in the USA!"

Sums it up perfectly, IMO :-)

The Batman/Dredd collection just reuses the classic image from the cover of Judgement in Gotham.

Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 15 June, 2004, 09:15:21 PM
Try again:
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: WoD on 15 June, 2004, 09:16:13 PM
trying
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: WoD on 15 June, 2004, 09:16:44 PM
hmm, glad I didn't suck-seed then.
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: WoD on 15 June, 2004, 09:22:23 PM
Lovely cover..shape the 2000ad logo is just a little bigger...
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 15 June, 2004, 09:22:55 PM
Oh, and for anyone who's interested, the cover is a modified version of the cover of prog 1064, with the background pulled & replaced.

Not the greatest Sin/Dex image, IMO, but it makes a pretty cool, accessible cover.

Link: Prog 1064

Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: paulvonscott on 15 June, 2004, 09:24:05 PM
Well, it can only be a good thing this whole malarky, but really there's a big part of me screaming 'why this?!', I really fucking hate these guys, especially the clown.  

Design looks good, I like the logo, not obviously as keen on the pic, as it's a pic of those two guys I hate.  Does that say Sony instead of Fony?  Oooooh... cease and desist!

How many pages are these things?

Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: House of Usher on 15 June, 2004, 09:27:00 PM
Do my eyes deceive me, or does the credits bar across the top actually say it's by Abnett, Davis... and Funt ???

What the funt?!!
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 15 June, 2004, 09:30:09 PM
Paul -

I'm not the biggest fan of Sin/Dex myself, but this is the early stuff - when they were still good - and it's probably a fairly accessible book for the US market.

And if releases like this mean I get to see stuff like Robo-Hunter & Strontium Dog released, I'll be happy to oblige!

**Dirty Frank is counting the days to the release of the complete Verdus**
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: House of Usher on 15 June, 2004, 09:32:09 PM
Is Gunshark Vacation the one with the improbable voodoo plot elements?
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Oddboy on 15 June, 2004, 09:33:41 PM
Usher - that's "F L I N T"
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: House of Usher on 15 June, 2004, 09:36:34 PM
Doh. I feel like a daft Clint now.
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Oddboy on 15 June, 2004, 09:37:38 PM
"The UK's greatest comics, now in the USA!"


Surely - it should say "The Galaxy?s greatest comics, now in the USA!"?
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Marbles on 15 June, 2004, 09:48:25 PM
Is the content different from the old 'Gun-lovin' Criminals' GN ?
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 15 June, 2004, 09:56:42 PM
Yep - this new TPB is quite a bit different. When the TPBs were first announced, I posted a guess at what I thought would be included. Jamie corrected a few bits, but it's still broadly accurate & you can see it at the link below:

Link: TPB contents...

Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Grant Goggans on 15 June, 2004, 10:05:46 PM
No, the voodoo one was "Smoke & Mirrors."

--Grant
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Oddboy on 15 June, 2004, 10:06:59 PM
Do like the way that 'DC Comics' is a lot smaller then the '2000AD' on the logo!
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: paulvonscott on 15 June, 2004, 10:11:47 PM
For some reason I thought these were comics, not collections.

DF:  No, they can release what they want.  They are releasing more things I want to read, than not read, so that's okay with me.

As always, interested to see the results, I'm fully prepared for it to be bewilderingly popular.
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 15 June, 2004, 10:19:04 PM
"For some reason I thought these were comics, not collections."

Well, the original plan was to publish the "2000AD Showcase" series in traditional US comic form, but at some point it seems that the DC deal became a possibility, and Showcase went very quiet. I'd assume, given what I've been told, that Showcase was simply shelved in favour of this - far better - deal.
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: paulvonscott on 15 June, 2004, 10:21:42 PM
So there's no comics being done, just collections?
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: House of Usher on 15 June, 2004, 10:25:00 PM
So, it's *about* 144 pages, then, and doesn't include Smoke & Mirrors? Sounds like a quality product to me. Excellent.
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 15 June, 2004, 10:32:49 PM
"designed by the 2000AD editorial staff"

...kinda correct. It was designed by new staffer Luke Preece, who'll be doing all the GN design work for me.

The BATMAN/DREDD collection is being designed by DC; that'll be the only one that is, though.

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 15 June, 2004, 10:33:34 PM
It's Clint Langley I feel sorry for :P

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 15 June, 2004, 10:33:38 PM
AFAIK, that's right PVS. Jamie could probably clear this up, if he's around...
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 15 June, 2004, 10:34:38 PM
...yes.

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 15 June, 2004, 10:38:59 PM
GUNSHARK VACATION is 128pp, and contains the following stories:-

SINISTER DEXTER
NERVOUS REX
MAX VACTOR
DEATH AND TAXIS
THE ELEVENTH COMMANDMENT
ALIBI OF BROADWAY
WISH UPON A CZAR
FAMILY MAN
LEARNING KURV
GUNSHARK VACATION

It will hopefully be the first of several SINISTER DEXTER collections - we're doing series of the series, if you see what I mean.

I understand that SINDEX isn't everyone's favourite, but I remain confident that once we're up to THREE (!) books per month next year, there'll be something for everyone to like pretty much month in, month out.

And one burnt-out GN editor, natch.

J-Bo-but-then-again-I'm-going-to-San-Diego!-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 15 June, 2004, 11:02:53 PM
The current plan is to just do collections, and - POSSIBLY - some crossover stuff, which presumably would lead to further collections. We'll be discussing that further with DC in the months to come.

There are no plans at this time for any kind of monthly US comic, although I'm currently working on a one-off convention special for DC, along similar lines to the one they've produced with Humanoids, as a promotional device and to introduce the comic and characters to the US comics market / book trade.

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Dunk! on 15 June, 2004, 11:09:40 PM
My monthly comics bill is too big as it is.

How much are these going to retail for in the US?

and any smarty pants who can translate the numbers from monopoly money into true moolah.
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Pete Wells on 15 June, 2004, 11:15:51 PM
Well I can't wait! I'm buying everything and am then going to turn into the worlds most unsociable bloke!

Thanks a million Jamie, your efforts really are appreciated by the vast majority of us.

Pete
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: paulvonscott on 15 June, 2004, 11:17:05 PM
That's great Jamie, I think I hadn't been listening when the original press release went out, it's all so much clearer now.  Cheers.
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 15 June, 2004, 11:24:02 PM
I can confirm that THE BATMAN/DREDD FILES will retail here for ?12.99, and SINISTER DEXTER: GUNSHARK VACATION will cost ?10.99.

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 15 June, 2004, 11:25:55 PM
Cheers, Pete.

Remember: these things are *BOOKS*, which means you don't immediately need to rush out and buy everything the day it comes out; we'll be maintaining stock levels on these for some time.

Not that I'm *against* the idea of rushing out and buying it all immediately ;)

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Grant Goggans on 16 June, 2004, 12:17:40 AM
DC announced the rest of their solicitations.  Between these, Starman: Grand Guignol and two volumes of Morrison Doom Patrol, my wallet's a-gonna be *hurting*.

--Grant
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 16 June, 2004, 03:39:35 PM
...And once more I thank God for me comp box ;)

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 16 June, 2004, 05:09:28 PM
Pauls point about the Sony on Dex's brow - is that going to need to be edited or can it be used as is without fear of litigation?
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 16 June, 2004, 05:44:35 PM
It's been cleared with the necessary legal teams.

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 16 June, 2004, 07:15:19 PM
THE BATMAN/JUDGE DREDD FILES TP
Written by John Wagner & Alan Grant
Art by Simon Bisley, Carl Critchlow, Dermot Power, Glenn Fabry, Jim Murray, Jason Brashill
Cover by Bisley
2000 A.D. Mega-City One's toughest lawman collides with Gotham City's Dark Knight in an explosive new trade paperback collecting three fully-painted crossover tales, all written by John Wagner & Alan Grant with stunning, fully painted art by Simon Bisley (LOBO), Carl Critchlow (JLA: RIDDLE OF THE BEAST), Dermot Power (THE SPECTRE), Glenn Fabry (PREACHER), Jim Murray (JLA: RIDDLE OF THE BEAST) and Jason Brashill (Outlaw)! In JUDGMENT ON GOTHAM, Batman and Dredd meet head-on when Judge Death sets his sights on Gotham City. The Riddler lures our heroes into the clutches of a bizarre extradimensional warlord in THE ULTIMATE RIDDLE, and finally, DIE LAUGHING sees the Joker traveling to Mega-City One, intent on becoming the fifth Dark Judge! Co-published by DC Comics and 2000 A.D.
On sale Sept 1 o FC, 208 pg, $14.95 US

SINISTER DEXTER: GUNSHARK VACATION TP
Written by Dan Abnett
Art by David Millgate, Anthony Williams,
Charlie Gillespie, Simon Davis, Henry Flint
Cover by Simon Davis
2000 A.D. Welcome to Downlode, future European megalopolis and home to the two best gunsharks (hit men) money can hire: motor-mouth Finnegan Sinister (weapon of choice: minigun) and laconic, ice-cool Ramone Dexter (twin Ruger 9mms). This new trade paperback - collecting material originally serialized in 2000 A.D. and Judge Dredd Megazine - is written by Dan Abnett (LEGION) and features art by SINISTER DEXTER co-creator David Millgate, Anthony Williams, Charles Gillespie, Simon Davis (JLA: RIDDLE OF THE BEAST) and Henry Flint (Judge Dredd/Aliens). Downlode's a city of colorful personalities on both sides of the law: grotesque, obese gangster "Holy" Moses Tannenbaum; sultry nightclub singer Demi Octavo; "Nervous" Rex Monday, the hypochondriac snitch; and more. Revenge, assassination, betrayal - it's all in a day's work for these gun-lovin' criminals!
On sale Sept 15 o FC, 128 pg, 7.375" x 10.187", $14.95 US
MATURE READERS


Don't think these have been posted here before. Taken from the September Shipping List and ripped off from Comicbookresources.com
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Oddboy on 16 June, 2004, 07:21:58 PM
7.375" x 10.187"

Is that regular US comic dimensions?
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 16 June, 2004, 07:32:04 PM
No - this is larger than regular US comic dimensions, but smaller than out current page size - it's a proportional format which means that although we're shrinking the art a bit, it will still look good. It's the same size DC are doing for the Humanoids books, too.

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: opaque on 16 June, 2004, 09:57:57 PM
I'm guessing turning Dexter into Wesley Snipes on the cover was to get the Americans interested?
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: The Monarch on 18 June, 2004, 12:05:51 AM
sorry just had to mention it again

STARMAN: GRAND GUIGNOL TP
Written by James Robinson
Art by Peter Snejbjerg
Cover by Andrew Robinson
This massive trade paperback - the penultimate volume in the STARMAN saga - reprints STARMAN #61-73! Jack Knight's worst nightmare becomes reality, as Opal City burns to the ground and chaos ensues, with hundreds of villains seizing the chance to strike.
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Mr D on 18 June, 2004, 10:15:31 AM
Jamie - is there any chance of a Revere book popping up somewhere along the way? Really fancy getting to read it...
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: JamieB on 18 June, 2004, 05:43:35 PM
I can't really discuss titles that I haven't confirmed with DC, I'm afraid - and we've yet to confirm the 2005 schedule.

I will say this: slag off Simon Harrison's art at your own risk, it appears he's a 2nd dan black belt in Shaolin Ngor Kung Fu...

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: First DC collection cover imag...
Post by: Noisybast on 19 June, 2004, 02:47:02 AM
I could take him...