Title: Charleys War GN
Post by: Marbles on 17 June, 2004, 03:53:27 PM
Post by: Marbles on 17 June, 2004, 03:53:27 PM
Just received this welcome news :-
"Dear Col. Marbles
I have let Neil Emery know, but just so you know that Titan Books are publishing the Charley's War graphic novel on 22nd October 2004 priced ?16.99 though it's
on special offer on www.amazon.co.uk
It looks like they have put the old 1980s volumes together, so it will be the first 40 episodes."
Can anyone confirm this ? Will there be any more ?
"Dear Col. Marbles
I have let Neil Emery know, but just so you know that Titan Books are publishing the Charley's War graphic novel on 22nd October 2004 priced ?16.99 though it's
on special offer on www.amazon.co.uk
It looks like they have put the old 1980s volumes together, so it will be the first 40 episodes."
Can anyone confirm this ? Will there be any more ?
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 17 June, 2004, 04:16:04 PM
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 17 June, 2004, 04:16:04 PM
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: Marbles on 17 June, 2004, 04:24:48 PM
Post by: Marbles on 17 June, 2004, 04:24:48 PM
Thats weird - I searched 'charleys war' on amazon & got no match. Ah well.
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: paulvonscott on 17 June, 2004, 04:30:11 PM
Post by: paulvonscott on 17 June, 2004, 04:30:11 PM
Well, that's great news, but I've had the original Titan Books for a while now, so will be desperately hoping for something new.
Oh and it stops people who want to read these from being ripped off on e-bay as well, which is nice.
Oh and it stops people who want to read these from being ripped off on e-bay as well, which is nice.
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: robbycox on 17 June, 2004, 04:37:21 PM
Post by: robbycox on 17 June, 2004, 04:37:21 PM
"Oh and it stops people who want to read these from being ripped off on e-bay as well"
v. true! didn't the last set on ebay sell for around ?30/?40 per book?
Rob.
v. true! didn't the last set on ebay sell for around ?30/?40 per book?
Rob.
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: House of Usher on 17 June, 2004, 04:51:26 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 17 June, 2004, 04:51:26 PM
What about Dan Dare? Hasn't a new series of compilations of his old '50s and '60s Eagle adventures been published recently?
The last series ended up remaindered at around ?7.99 each, but sell for around ?40 a volume now.
The last series ended up remaindered at around ?7.99 each, but sell for around ?40 a volume now.
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: paulvonscott on 17 June, 2004, 04:59:22 PM
Post by: paulvonscott on 17 June, 2004, 04:59:22 PM
Very possibly. As someone who has had an almost complete set of Titan Books for years (I bought them when they came out), and bought both Charlies War books when they weren't reallty sought after for less than a tenner. I've seen my collection rise from being worthless to worth more than ?30 a book, and now they are sinking back to being worth about what I paid for them, or a bit less. Which is fine!
I don't know why people pay so much for them (unless they have too much money, then there's better things they can do with it). They'll all (even Zenith) be reprinted eventually, all you have to do is wait. If it were just about reading them, then most of the stories were also reprinted in cheaper formats like the monthlies. I can only asume it's because people get a bit hysterical.
My main frustration is that when a company does decide to release a book now, they quite logically release the first book, but get no further. This is because the book has been released countless times before and a lot of fans already have it. So that when book 1 doesn't do so well, they don't get around to releasing book 2 which has never been released before, and would probably sell more than book 1. But they don't have a clue so take the obvious conclusion. Happens with DVD releases of series on video all the time as well.
In Titans case, they just re-released what they have the films for on the whole.
Looking forward to Jamies collection of books a lot. Once we get past the series I don't like and the ones I already have, I'm hoping to be able to expand my bookshelves a bit.
I don't know why people pay so much for them (unless they have too much money, then there's better things they can do with it). They'll all (even Zenith) be reprinted eventually, all you have to do is wait. If it were just about reading them, then most of the stories were also reprinted in cheaper formats like the monthlies. I can only asume it's because people get a bit hysterical.
My main frustration is that when a company does decide to release a book now, they quite logically release the first book, but get no further. This is because the book has been released countless times before and a lot of fans already have it. So that when book 1 doesn't do so well, they don't get around to releasing book 2 which has never been released before, and would probably sell more than book 1. But they don't have a clue so take the obvious conclusion. Happens with DVD releases of series on video all the time as well.
In Titans case, they just re-released what they have the films for on the whole.
Looking forward to Jamies collection of books a lot. Once we get past the series I don't like and the ones I already have, I'm hoping to be able to expand my bookshelves a bit.
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: paulvonscott on 17 June, 2004, 05:03:28 PM
Post by: paulvonscott on 17 June, 2004, 05:03:28 PM
"The last series ended up remaindered at around ?7.99 each, but sell for around ?40 a volume now."
People value this stuff fot the money that can be made, more than the content I believe.
People value this stuff fot the money that can be made, more than the content I believe.
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: paulvonscott on 17 June, 2004, 05:08:23 PM
Post by: paulvonscott on 17 June, 2004, 05:08:23 PM
Oh and look at those DOn lawrence STorm books being published. ?50 for a 100 page book? That's no way to introduce new people to his work. It's a scandal.
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: House of Usher on 17 June, 2004, 05:14:14 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 17 June, 2004, 05:14:14 PM
Dan Dare, Voyage to Venus part 1
Dan Dare, Voyage to Venus part 2
Dan dare, The Red Moon Mystery
- about ?10 from Amazon.
Dan Dare, Pilot of the Future (1981)
- about ?250 used, from Amazon.
Dan Dare, Voyage to Venus part 2
Dan dare, The Red Moon Mystery
- about ?10 from Amazon.
Dan Dare, Pilot of the Future (1981)
- about ?250 used, from Amazon.
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: House of Usher on 17 June, 2004, 05:19:26 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 17 June, 2004, 05:19:26 PM
Of course, the point of comparison wouldn't be Pilot of the Future from 1981, but the Hawk Books editions c.1988 (tens of pounds).
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: JamieB on 17 June, 2004, 05:30:43 PM
Post by: JamieB on 17 June, 2004, 05:30:43 PM
Bet your ass, Paul!
J-Bo-1
J-Bo-1
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: Marbles on 17 June, 2004, 06:00:53 PM
Post by: Marbles on 17 June, 2004, 06:00:53 PM
Yeh I'm looking forward to Jamie's collections - pretty curious to see how the size thing work out.
I mean bigger than the US (A5?) but smaller than 2K (A4?)- interesting, hope it doesnt detract from the art. Looking forward to a complete Dante run anyway !
I mean bigger than the US (A5?) but smaller than 2K (A4?)- interesting, hope it doesnt detract from the art. Looking forward to a complete Dante run anyway !
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: Wake on 17 June, 2004, 07:04:15 PM
Post by: Wake on 17 June, 2004, 07:04:15 PM
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: House of Usher on 17 June, 2004, 07:19:42 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 17 June, 2004, 07:19:42 PM
Starting price one pound, but "Some pages have become detached. Others are partially detached. Corners soft."
The Hawk Books Pilot of the Future book sold on eBay for ?21 + ?4 p&p on June 15th.
The 1981 book is something by Omnibus Press available for ?250. Either way, it looks like Amazon isn't the place to by out-of-print Dan Dare material.
The Hawk Books Pilot of the Future book sold on eBay for ?21 + ?4 p&p on June 15th.
The 1981 book is something by Omnibus Press available for ?250. Either way, it looks like Amazon isn't the place to by out-of-print Dan Dare material.
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: thrillpowerseeker on 18 June, 2004, 01:16:00 AM
Post by: thrillpowerseeker on 18 June, 2004, 01:16:00 AM
Fantastic news this..Grud I hope they do the full series......i'm off to raise cash by selling a kidney on ebay
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: opaque on 18 June, 2004, 01:23:44 AM
Post by: opaque on 18 June, 2004, 01:23:44 AM
Well I've got a shrinkwrapped hardback copy of Dan Dare: The Man from Nowhere by Dragon's Dream.
?15 according to your site Wake?
?15 according to your site Wake?
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: Bico on 22 October, 2004, 04:22:01 AM
Post by: Bico on 22 October, 2004, 04:22:01 AM
Just thought I'd bump this thread, since play.com are selling books now, and Charley's War is listed on the site at ?11.49, with free postage.
Shove yer postage up yer arse, Amazon!
Shove yer postage up yer arse, Amazon!
Link: Linky
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: Moose on 25 October, 2004, 06:47:39 AM
Post by: Moose on 25 October, 2004, 06:47:39 AM
what you need is a comics related website...then titan send you a copy for free...
smugly,
moose
smugly,
moose
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: Grant Goggans on 25 October, 2004, 10:00:38 AM
Post by: Grant Goggans on 25 October, 2004, 10:00:38 AM
*Waves hands frantically at Titan for some nice Dan Dare books, please.
--Grant
--Grant
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: Max Kon on 25 October, 2004, 10:29:14 AM
Post by: Max Kon on 25 October, 2004, 10:29:14 AM
My website is comics related, to a comics competition at least.
Link: The Cybermax
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: therev on 26 October, 2004, 04:29:01 AM
Post by: therev on 26 October, 2004, 04:29:01 AM
DON'T type in Charley's wars on Google...you get nekkid ladies sites!
Lol!
Lol!
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: Marbles on 10 November, 2004, 08:34:10 PM
Post by: Marbles on 10 November, 2004, 08:34:10 PM
Just read an excellent *full page* review of this in the latest 'Word' magazine. Thats just the kind of exposure (i.e. out of the comic in-crowd) that it needs. (If only 2K could get more articles like that!).
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: paulvonscott on 28 November, 2004, 03:49:50 AM
Post by: paulvonscott on 28 November, 2004, 03:49:50 AM
Just bought this for someone to give to someone to give to me for Christmas.
It looks great. Lovely cover, hardback with incredible design on the dust jacket, intro by pat mills, the story of course, an episode commentary by mills, a feature on the comic strip story timeline and a feature on the war itself.
Simply lovely. I have the titan books, but really wanted to support this as they'll keep releasing them as long as people keep buying em basically.
Get it for Christmas!
It looks great. Lovely cover, hardback with incredible design on the dust jacket, intro by pat mills, the story of course, an episode commentary by mills, a feature on the comic strip story timeline and a feature on the war itself.
Simply lovely. I have the titan books, but really wanted to support this as they'll keep releasing them as long as people keep buying em basically.
Get it for Christmas!
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: opaque on 28 November, 2004, 05:57:59 AM
Post by: opaque on 28 November, 2004, 05:57:59 AM
Any ideas as to how many volumes there could actually be? I guess a completist would want it up to the White Russians (or beyond, thats as far as I remember).
How did it end btw?
How did it end btw?
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: OldOne on 28 November, 2004, 08:45:45 AM
Post by: OldOne on 28 November, 2004, 08:45:45 AM
Some of the Hawk Dare volumes were going for silly prices a while back- I sold Operation Saturn and Prisoners of Space (at least I think it was those two) for about ?190 each last year. They were the volumes that were pulled from sale
originally, and were therefore much more sought after.
Was sad to let them go, but needed the cash at the time. Still have all the original comics (1950-59) though, so won't be running out of Dare material for a while!
originally, and were therefore much more sought after.
Was sad to let them go, but needed the cash at the time. Still have all the original comics (1950-59) though, so won't be running out of Dare material for a while!
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: Talamander on 01 December, 2004, 12:27:34 AM
Post by: Talamander on 01 December, 2004, 12:27:34 AM
"Oh and it stops people who want to read these from being ripped off on e-bay as well, which is nice." eh? if people are paying ?40 for a Charley's War GN on eBay, more fool them. They're hardly getting ripped off if that's what they're prepared to pay.
Title: Re: Charleys War GN
Post by: Generally Contrary on 01 December, 2004, 01:02:57 AM
Post by: Generally Contrary on 01 December, 2004, 01:02:57 AM
When the only legal way to read them is to pay ?40, then I'd call that being ripped off. Market forces alone cannot determine what is fair, else we'd have to call pay and conditions 'fair' in Victorian mills and Latin American sweatshops.
In this case, none of the ?40 went to the the writer or the artist, and buying a different comic is not the same as buying Charley's War. We might argue that English coal is the same as Colombian coal (though geologists will disagree), but a Charley's War GN is not the same as, say, a Spawn GN. Moreso, these are cultural products, not simple commodities, and I'd argue that we need to have affordable access to cultural products, whether they are books, films, music etc. In the electronic age, these items are endlessly reproducible, so the only factor acting against this the manipulation of the market which inadvertently bars access to parts of our culture to people.
In this case, none of the ?40 went to the the writer or the artist, and buying a different comic is not the same as buying Charley's War. We might argue that English coal is the same as Colombian coal (though geologists will disagree), but a Charley's War GN is not the same as, say, a Spawn GN. Moreso, these are cultural products, not simple commodities, and I'd argue that we need to have affordable access to cultural products, whether they are books, films, music etc. In the electronic age, these items are endlessly reproducible, so the only factor acting against this the manipulation of the market which inadvertently bars access to parts of our culture to people.