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Books & Comics / Re: How do you like your Batman characters?
« on: Today at 11:32:15 AM »
For the Joker - my preference is for the version in The Killing Joke.

Hmm. Not quite evil enough for me... I like the Arkham Asylum version, but I think I'll take the utterly ruthless and strangely camp version in DKR.

Now, why the same writer would later make Batman a cackling psycho and the Joker a grim-faced stoic, I'll never know.

I always thought Miller's take on the Joker (which remains pretty much my favourite) was that he was a humourless grim-faced stoic unless he was actually fighting Batman, in which case he'd clearly be cackling away having the time of his life.

General / Re: OZ readers.
« on: 29 April, 2020, 11:15:18 AM »
There was a very long stretch where I never saw 2000AD in Australian newsagents (I'm in Melbourne) but would occasionally see the Megazine. Then over the last few years it's seemed like 2000AD has made a bit of a comeback into the bigger newsagents... just as a lot of newsagents have closed down. But I do still see it in the handful of comprehensive newsagents I pass by, so it's definitely available. If you can find a
"proper" newsagent (not a Tatts outlet with a handful of copies of New Idea) with a Gordon & Gotch account, they should be able to order it in for you.

I currently get 2000AD and the Megazine from a large Melbourne comic shop, but I've been told they're no longer taking orders for 2000AD ("if you cancel your order, you can't start it up again") because they had trouble with the distributor in the past. But in the last few months they've started to get their copies sealed in monthly packs so I'm guessing they've moved over to Diamond distribution now. So it's also available through at least some comic shops still.

Books & Comics / Re: New Comic Book Day Megathread
« on: 22 July, 2019, 09:14:23 AM »
I'm sure someone can point me directly to a half-dozen quotes where O'Neill himself says "I'm outta here" with regards to comics, but most of the stories I've seen (and all of the ones I can remember) were more about Moore loudly quitting comics with O'Neill being mentioned as an afterthought.

Personally I desperately hope that in O'Neill's case "quitting comics" means "quitting 32-page American format comics". Considering the time frame he requires to create (though he's no doubt slowed by Affable Al's lengthy and detailed scripts), another six issues may well have seen him pushing 70 by the end of things.

Books & Comics / Re: LOEG: The Tempest
« on: 16 January, 2019, 10:40:32 AM »
Putting "great news for readers inside" on the cover of the final ever issue is brilliant.

General / Re: Goodbye Carlos
« on: 02 October, 2018, 03:58:00 AM »
Devastating news. I'm shattered.

Deepest condolences to his family and friends.

General / Re: Forthcoming Thrills - 2019
« on: 26 July, 2018, 11:39:02 AM »
There probably should have been a new collection of Savage by now as well.

General / Re: Everything comes back after 20 years: The Prog's New Dark Age
« on: 14 February, 2018, 10:47:30 AM »
The thing is, when Wagner writes Dredd these days it's either stand-alone stuff or maybe following up on his own plotlines. Since DOC he hasn't messed with the status quo in a way that would affect anyone else's Dredd stories, and we've had loads of Dredd stories from other writers with big ramifications.

The problem with Dredd (if there is one) isn't that Wagner is preventing everyone else from telling the stories with Dredd that they want to tell; they're clearly telling those stories.

General / Re: Everything comes back after 20 years: The Prog's New Dark Age
« on: 14 February, 2018, 12:03:13 AM »
I think the way it most resembles the 90s is the lack of Wagner. 

Pat Mills is propping up my interest (as he did then) with arguably better quality stuff than his 90s output, but at least there are no Mark Millars to really shit in the gravy

But I do take the point it is competent to a point of blandness at times and desperately needs a bit of oomph that I would have to go back as far as Al Ewing to find regularly  Edgington, Rennie and Abnett are all prefectly competent, but to a larger or lesser extent I'm rarely engaged in the week to week action of whatever strip they are doing.

Couldn't agree more. While I definitely don't think the current prog is getting anywhere near the depths of the worst of the 90s, it's not hitting the highs it used to either. And I'm firmly in the pro-Mills camp - he brings something to the prog that no-one else can.

Prog / Re: Prog 2066 - Bors Hunt!
« on: 29 January, 2018, 09:54:08 AM »

Personally I'd like to see a move away from forced epics -- back to a higher proportion of MC-1 based stories with an emphasis on imaginative crimes.

Couldn't agree more. But I assume that'd require Tharg to find a writer or two interested in telling that particular kind of story, whereas the current crop seem almost actively afraid to tell stories about Dredd simply fighting crime in MC-1.

General / Re: Why is Judge Fear so unpopular?
« on: 08 January, 2018, 04:24:21 AM »
It seems to boil down to the kind of story being told. A lot of Dark Judges stories have them as basically just running around killing as many people as possible (which, to be fair, is pretty much their whole entire point), and in that kind of scenario Fire has the edge thanks to being a walking flamethrower.

Mortis is the clear number two in that kind of story, what with looking creepy and occasionally making a pedway decay to drop hundreds of people to their deaths; Fear really only ever gets to kill people one on one and if you're not Dredd and can't just punch him out you can always sneak up behind him and put him in a headlock.

News / Re: Mills & Skinner's ACCIDENT MAN - The Film
« on: 27 December, 2017, 01:19:23 PM »
Looks like this is out to purchase in the US in a little over a month's time - looks like the blu-ray is region-free too: https://www.amazon.com/Accident-Man-Blu-ray-Ashley-Greene/dp/B077R48NT8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1514380638&sr=8-1&keywords=accident+man+blu+ray

General / Re: New Charley's War Printing
« on: 31 October, 2017, 05:52:47 AM »
There's one book of the Titan collections - I think book four but I'd have to check (it's the one with Blue) - where the reproduction seemed a bit below par. Considering the later books looked excellent (as did Titan's one and only omnibus), I'm really hoping these new editions will fix that.

General / Re: House Characters In Comics
« on: 05 October, 2017, 01:16:16 PM »
I really wish Ewing was doing more (anything) for 2000AD. But I'm assuming he's currently following the traditional model of working like mad for a big US publisher in the hope that when he makes the jump to a creator-owned series at Image he'll have enough fans willing to follow him to make it worthwhile. I pretty much never pick up Big Two titles no matter who's writing them these days (yeah, I know, I'm missing out), and I really wish there was some Ewing work out there I could be reading.

The trouble with the idea that giving creators a slice of their creations could make up for lesser pay is that (for example) with US television currently ramping up fiction production to never before-seen levels and with no immediate end in sight, coming up with new creations that can be turned into TV shows or movie or whatever *is* where the big money potentially is.

Getting bigger name creators back into 2000AD for 2000AD money plus creative ownership might work. But it seems that the more money that's potentially out there for selling comic book properties to television producers, the less incentive there is as a comic book creator to take any deal that doesn't give you full control over those options and the less incentive there is for publishers to give you those options in case you hit it big and they get nothing. It's easy to say "publishers should be happy with publishing money", but when there's a possibility of a big TV payday why put yourself in a situation where you're guaranteeing if it does happen you'll see none of the money?

Which is why Marvel and DC have been all about trying to make properties they already own seem fresh and new for the last few decades, and why all the big names stopped writing for Vertigo once that imprint changed their contracts to give DC a big slice of the TV and movie royalties.

General / Re: House Characters In Comics
« on: 05 October, 2017, 08:50:26 AM »

If Tharg's paying page rates that haven't changed in twenty years, no wonder creators either don't want to work for TMO or are reluctant to give him their best work.

Just wanted to

a): second that this is the status quo in publishing - having worked as a freelance writer since the 90s for well over a dozen publications, I think maybe one raised freelance rates over the last twenty years, and they promptly halved the amount of work available so it was basically a pay cut. Other publishers might start up offering more money, but the established operators are well aware that they don't need to (and probably can't afford to) raise rates in the current climate - and in my experience the new publishers quickly fall into line with established rates.

b): ask that isn't it often the case that the exchange rate between the UK and USA plays a part in Tharg's ability to hold onto top talent - once the Pound dips everyone starts looking across the Atlantic?

Prog / Re: Prog 2050 - Epic Thrills!
« on: 25 September, 2017, 04:15:05 PM »
Having a new Indigo Prime story would also make it possible to bundle it into a reprint with the uncollected Perfect Day from 2014. That might be a consideration.

It'd be a pretty slim volume, mind you.

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