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Messages - JOE SOAP

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Off Topic / Re: The Death of Verbal Cultural Memes
« on: 28 June, 2020, 04:05:34 PM »
An old meme for old peeps.

Help! / Re: Help me Hive Mind, you're my only hope...
« on: 27 June, 2020, 04:51:18 PM »
or a 'modern' Dr Sin?

There's a Dr Sin story by Rob Williams & Luca Pizzari in the 2015 FCBD issue.

Film & TV / Re: Justice League 2017
« on: 24 June, 2020, 02:14:42 AM »
Amazing to think that they can make a perfect film even better.
I've seen a lot of clearly over-educated Youtubers examine the ethos of Snyder's take on Superman and why the director's objectivist philosophy creates dissonance between the creator and their work,

I made a prediction a while back that the attentive fandom would eventually close the circle and sublimate das überdirector to the typical Randian protagonist: persecuted iconoclast, his creations under-appreciated and subverted by the establishment. Recently the YouTube Academy of Higher Learning confirmed that prediction.

Apart form the likely ideological objection to the 'honours system', I think either man would laugh at something called Order of the British Empire.

General / Re: Barney
« on: 11 June, 2020, 09:43:59 AM »
It should be nationalised.

Film & TV / Re: Bill and Ted Face the Music
« on: 09 June, 2020, 05:28:27 PM »
Doesn't look any worse the previous 2.

Film & TV / Re: Last movie watched...
« on: 08 June, 2020, 09:38:31 AM »
Am I misremembering,  or was this addressed in the original Thomas/Chaykin comic adaptation (which was everyone's main source of SW rewatches in the pre-video era)? The line I half-recall is "Few space-princesses are tall enough, Chewie will have to pin his medal on himself". I know he gets one in the ADF pre-novelisation. So for more than 40 years he always got one in my head!

Oddly enough, until Dark Horse reprinted it, the 3 page short epilogue was a Marvel UK exclusive to pad out the weekly.

That Marvel UK content got collected a few years ago in a massive 800 page book.


Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 08 June, 2020, 02:29:21 AM »
Find me a statue of the Famine Queen on public display in the Republic. We actually transported ours to Australia.  We don't miss them, and we don't forget her either.

The hubby's still outside Leinster House hiding in a bush, we should probably fix that.

General / Re: Things that went over your head...
« on: 24 May, 2020, 12:34:35 PM »

Both Noam and Nim feature in the film of Manufacturing Consent.


Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 16 May, 2020, 05:24:41 PM »

It's obvious that IX was supposed to foreground Leia (and Joe's excerpts above support that) , which would have created a more convincing structure. What they managed to pull off in that respect underctrahic cirvumstances was astounding, and buys all concerned a lot of leeway from me.

What I find funny is the last week or so fans were (deservedly) gushing over Filoni's fitting end to The Clone Wars and the recent interview where he waxes lyrical about The Phantom Menace to a bunch of SW directors, but not a peep about these quotes from the art-book that's been out several months with bits and pieces of it copy/pasted into numerous articles – quotes that would 'hang' JJA, Johnson and Kennedy etc.

Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 16 May, 2020, 04:26:37 PM »
Nice stuff,  Joe. Where's the Kylo's Bedchamber 03 bit from?

Both are from this (the artbooks are great).

Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 16 May, 2020, 04:00:19 PM »
I have my own fistful of Sequel critiques and how they were put together but I've no problem with the idea of them or the older characters being a bit tarnished – I expect that to happen and then to do something with it, but that wasn't entirely successful due to different executions/time pressure/death, whatever. Any emotional attachment I had or have for them as a kid, or adult, doesn't really come into it or even bother me as those are a separate bunch of stories that are unchanged.

I'm posting these snippets not as comment on any particular opinion but as context for the Hollywoodland thinking behind the films in the earlier stages and how they compare to execution and reaction.

Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 15 May, 2020, 10:38:11 PM »
As someone who already loathed VIII, all this stuff from Mr. Prime and Mr. Panther about gentler heroism and so forth helps further crystallise some of why I hated it. Cheers, lads! (I'm not having a go at either of you, honest - your assessment of the film's attitude and themes features some insightful analysis, but whereas you both warmed to the idea of the movie undermining what you refer to as the tropes of old, I did not.

Arguably Luke in ROTJ had already opted for the 'gentler heroism' route and TLJ just reiterated it.

Film & TV / Re: Last movie watched...
« on: 04 May, 2020, 10:15:28 AM »
Tron Legacy. Considerable improvement on the original, in terms of plot, performances, effects and designs.

I like it a lot. I even quite like the uncanny valley quality of CLU in the computer world — the creepy not-quite-rightness of it, intentional or not, actually works in the story’s favour. I’m sorry it didn’t do better at the box office, because I’d have happily seen more.

It did well enough that they did a TV series (which I've not seen so can't comment upon).

The cartoon was already in development and deals for cast and crew were in place at the time the film was released. It was promptly cancelled after its first season due to lack of viewers.


Off Topic / Re: Day of Chaos 2: a.Covid-19 thread.
« on: 01 May, 2020, 02:21:37 PM »
Interestingly enough, An Post - the equivalent of Royal Mail here in the Emerald Isle - have not, to the best of my knowledge at least, had Saturday deliveries for as long as I can remember, if ever. (Of course, I stand to be corrected on this, but I can only ever recall Monday to Friday postal deliveries in this country.)

There are weekend deliveries at Christmas time.

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