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Books & Comics / Re: Limitations of comics
« on: 15 September, 2020, 11:30:50 AM »
2000AD as a sci-fi action comic where most stories are required to be told in 6 page chunks that have their own mini-story AND a cliffhanger ending do make that harder, but I think plenty have managed. I mean hell, look at those umpteen future shocks based on the idea of 'oh, you thought the disgusting monster was the alien, but what if it's actually YOU HUMANS who are the disgusting monsters!!' It's not an original thought, but if it's the first time you're confronted by it, is kinda IS deep.

To compare to the average alien invasion film (from any time in the last seventy years) - this already gives the stories more depth, because let's face it, the plot of the usual film is that the aliens arrive on Earth and turn out to be the bad guys, as everybody expected.

General / Re: UNDT Round 4 Heat 7: Judge Death vs Judge Anderson
« on: 15 September, 2020, 09:38:58 AM »
On the basis that Anderon's change in tone added depth rather than detracted from the original depiction (sssorry Sssidney), Cass gets my vote.

General / Re: UNDT Round 4 Heat 8: The Stix Brothers vs Johnny Alpha
« on: 15 September, 2020, 09:36:43 AM »
Alpha.  No contest.

General / Re: If it HAD to be a different artist...
« on: 15 September, 2020, 09:31:52 AM »
Jamie Hernandez on Halo Jones.

Love and Rockets meets Halo Jones?  Interesting!  All the more so due to the Moore connection with members of Bauhaus (some of whom made up the group Love and Rockets, named for the comic).

General / Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
« on: 14 September, 2020, 08:04:10 PM »
I hear the Doghouse echoing tonight,
But only hear whispers of three mutie na-a-ation
The moonlit wings reflect the Lyran stars that guide muties towards salvation
I stopped a blind man on the way
Hoping to find some old forgotten spells or ancient conjuring

The wild Dogs cry out in the night
As they grow restless, longing for some Stontium company
I know that I must do what's right
As sure as the Doghouse rises like revenge above Salisbury Cathedral
I seek to cure what's deep inside, frightened of this thing that I've become

Hurry Dog, its waiting there for you

It's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
There's nothing that a hundred Kreelers or more could ever do
I bless the blood sacrifice down in New Britain

General / Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
« on: 14 September, 2020, 07:34:57 PM »
So now Fox has seen the end of the Final Solution, is it time for him to watch the Spaced episode that references that moment?

I was going to look for a video clip of the scene, but couldn't find it.  I did find this though.  (it's a band called The Death of Johnny Alpha - not listened to it yet, because I'm still listening to today's podcast).

General / Re: If it HAD to be a different artist...
« on: 14 September, 2020, 12:52:02 PM »

Think it was a Vector 13?

Aha! Yeah, you're right. Past Imperfect didn't exist then.

Heading back to the cause for looking in to it - Barney's list of Vector 13 stories has the following artists working with Dan:

  • Sean Phillips (Marion)
  • Nigel Dobbyn (Echo Location)
  • Kevin Cullen (Danse Macabre)
  • Nick Percival (Shadrach)
  • John Ridgway (A Salver in the Heavens, World at War)
  • Mike Perkins (Blackout)
  • Mick Austin (Parts and Labour)
  • Paul Marshall (The Sad Child)
  • Chris Weston (Side Step)
  • Alex Ronald (Cryptogram)

General / Re: If it HAD to be a different artist...
« on: 14 September, 2020, 09:33:26 AM »
Colin - I thought Rian Hughes was great on Robohunter too. Sam looked like Sam, and his kind of retro sci-fi architecture suited the strip nicely.

I’ll back this one as well. The Hogan/Hughes Robo-Hunter was a worthy successor to the Wagner/Grant/Gibson stuff, especially welcome after the Millar/Various abominations we had to suffer.

I liked Casanovas renditions - unfortunately I've not been keen to revisit that era of Slade's misadventures due to the obvious *

* Millar.

General / Re: If it HAD to be a different artist...
« on: 14 September, 2020, 09:28:03 AM »
There was another guy who illustrated the Dan Abnett Past Imperfect where it turned out [redacted] - his stuff looked a bit like Arthur Ranson's and he'd have done a good job.

Barney suggests Dan never did a Past Imperfect, though there was a JFK one.

General / Re: UNDT Round 4 Heat 6: Fink Angel vs Halo Jones
« on: 14 September, 2020, 08:44:23 AM »
The increased leisure citizen who made the break!

I could also have said she's out and proud ;)

General / Re: UNDT Round 4 Heat 6: Fink Angel vs Halo Jones
« on: 14 September, 2020, 08:43:57 AM »
The increased leisure citizen who made the break!

Books & Comics / Re: Limitations of comics
« on: 14 September, 2020, 08:41:11 AM »
Without a proper definition of 'deep' it's difficult to answer the original question...

...but I'd defy anybody* to compare the following works by Alan Moore to their film adaptations and claim the film is any more 'deep' than the originals.
  • V for Vendetta
  • Watchmen
  • From Hell
  • League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
  • Swamp Thing†
* Obviously if you disagree then this thread is the place to do so!
† I'm talking about the recent TV series, which is influenced by Moore's run, as opposed to the films, which appear to have very little in common.

General / Re: UNDT Round 4 Heat 2: Old One Eye vs Wulf Sternhammer
« on: 13 September, 2020, 08:39:15 PM »
Smallbluething you've been a good boy - and not just for the Suzanne Vega reference

What was the reference?

General / Re: how to do a prog slog
« on: 13 September, 2020, 06:34:14 PM »
2000AD Annual 1985

Sláine travels in time (but don't worry too much as the continuity will be re-jigged in a year or two), Turbo-trux gate-crash the Mega-City, Rogue broadcasts a message and Hammerstein gets the blues.  Oh, and there's something about Zrag.

Off Topic / Re: It's a bit warm/ wet/ cold outside
« on: 13 September, 2020, 03:31:43 PM »
Crossing over to the political thread - some people say that as the detrimental economic effects of leaving the EU become more apparent, many of those who voted to leave will admit that EU membership did actually have some benefits.

I wasn't sure where Oregon was so just did a quick search.  A top news story was how there were claims on facebook that the fires in Oregon were set by AntiFa.  One thing this shows is that those responsible for destructive behaviour will never admit when it's their fault, always looking to blame it on external factors.

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