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Show posts MenuQuote from: JOE SOAP on 23 July, 2011, 02:26:31 PMQuote from: Goaty on 23 July, 2011, 02:21:22 PM
Future123, are you troll??
Yes. No point arguing wits with someone who can't tell when a human has their shoulders in a relaxed or tensed position.

Quote from: Molch-R on 22 July, 2011, 04:09:05 PMQuote from: Matt Timson on 22 July, 2011, 10:39:59 AM
Mulcher- you'll always be an overly tall twat*, but I salute your King Canute-like dedication to the job in the face of endless whining.
I love you too, Matthew
Quote from: TordelBack on 22 July, 2011, 12:08:46 PMQuote from: Matt Timson on 22 July, 2011, 12:02:57 PM
Nobody understands the value of a comedy rhetorical question these days...
It's the way you tell 'em!
Nah, sorry, I misread it as an 'regular outsider folk should get equal recognition in science' comment - sense of humour reboot needed on my part.
Quote from: TordelBack on 22 July, 2011, 11:28:07 AMQuote from: Matt Timson on 22 July, 2011, 10:52:36 AM
Wasn't Albert Einstein a lowly clerk in a patent office?
After graduating in physics and maths, and to support his family while working towards his doctorate in physics at the University of Zurich, having fled military service in Germany, yes indeed he was, but did his contribution to science at the time consist of posting on internet forums* and writing to the Daily Mail? Or did it consist of (initially) the completion of his doctoral thesis, and the publication, in respected peer-reviewed scientific journals, of his theory of Special Relativity, the photoelectric effect, brownian motion etc. (all in the one year, BTW)?
Rather than complaining that the scientific establishment was conspiring to maintain the fiction of the luminiferous ether through debate, Einstein mathematically proved the damn thing was a needless nonsense, and he did it through traditional establishment channels and norms. And did 'they' hush him up and suppress his work? No. Within three years he was a senior lecturer at the University of Zurich, and 3 years after that a full professor in Prague.
This is not the same thing as pulling bits of papers out of context and asserting the sky is (isn't?) falling, and no-one is listening to you because they're all in cahoots with big business and/or the goddamn hippies.
*I am absolutely NOT referring to TLS here, to be clear. TLS is an intelligent and articulate gentleman, and a unbowed challenger of received orthodoxies, for all that I seldom agree with him.