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It does look a bit suss- especially the reflected lights that don't appear in the reverse angle.

Agnostics are pussies.

I'm an agnostic and, as has already been noted, I am king of the internetz and will beat you up if you diss me...

What channel is it on?

P.S. - These: [] are not for what you think they are. I know they call them 'brackets' in Americanese, but you want the curly ones instead. I know it needs an extra finger to hold down the shift key, but with practice I'm sure you'll get the hang of it.

Why don't you correct his punctuation as well?
 

Anyone see 'Around the world in 80 faiths last night'? Must say I was quite impressed with the Ethiopian Orthodox Christians who despite the extremely harsh conditions they live in, manage to share the very little food and resources they have. They put their ability to deal with their lot down to the strength they draw from their faith. As for the voodoo that was shown – man, sacrificing little puppies and kittens?!

Haven't seen last night's yet- but I've watched a couple of them on iPlayer while I'm working- fascinating stuff.

History proves that political regimes that are Atheist in nature like the USSR quickly descend into a horror story.Maybe it doesnt have to be that way but human nature doesnt really change.

Sorry Peter, but you're talking bollocks. the behaviour of the political leaders in Russia were nothing to do with a belief or oherwise, in a god.
The actions of Geroge Bush, or the Taliban, or ayatollahs in Iran on the other hand...

I think you're both wrong.  People commit horrific crimes and some of those people will use religion to justify their actions.  When you boil it down, all conflict in the world is really caused by greed, envy and tribal rivalry.  It's amazing how often some leader's god wants them to do the exact same thing they wanted to do anyway.

Peter is almost correct in that the USSR didn't bother with God as an excuse to kill people- they just did it anyway.  At least they were honest.

...........But, Matt, I did so want to be your friend, you're a hard man, you're my hero!!!!  You must be hard 'cos you make threats over t' internet!!!

Yeah... People who "make threats over the internet" generally tend not to tell people where and when they can find them.
 


Stupid cow...

I don't think I called you a racist or ever will (not because of the threats but because I don't think you are).

I thought I politely expressed that, though you may have a bit of a point, "Try saying that about Allah" isn't the sort of thing I like to see because people who aren't as funny, clever and not-racist as you, often use it as an excuse to whip up hate.  

I don't think you are about "hate" (depsite what comes off your keyboard occassionally).

I didn't really mean you specifically- I could just see where the thread might be going.  There's plenty of real racism in the world without people looking for it where it doesn't actually exist.  I apologise if you took that to be an actual threat against you- it wasn't- but yes, I would quite cheerfully knock the shit out of anyone who tried to imply that I was a racist to my face.

Wow! That told 'em, you're my hero.  Matt Timson the hardest man on the "T'inernet"!!!!

Oh shut up you tired old bag.

Matt Timson wrote: "Tell you what - go and stand in Leicester City centre with a microphone, shouting, "God does not exist", for ten minutes. When you've finished, shout "Allah does not exist", for as long as you are able. I will book you an ambulance in advance and we can discuss the merits of technicalities at some later date."



I bow to you in deference, Sir, the King of the Politically Incorrect Statement. I'm amazed you haven't been slaughtered and accused of being islamaphobic by certain boarders. You must be one of the "In Crowd." More power to your elbow, keep up the good work!! I bet Peterwolf wouldn't have got away with it!!

Well, Mr T has used a response that I for one am not very happy seeing.  He has a bit of a point in there somewhere but I feel these things need to be more carefully expressed because, though Matt is clever enough to see the point he's making and where to draw the line, many people who read this sort of thing in the tabloids don't.

(Having said that, he doesn't actually say WHICH lot are going to give you a kicking, does he? So maybe we are at fault for assuming )

Wow!  Excuse me for knowing something about the place I live!  Leicester has a huge Asian community- and a lot of Muslims.  Frankly, if you were stupid enough to yell "Allah doesn't exist" on a Saturday afternoon, I wouldn't fancy your chances and I wouldn't feel sorry for you, either.  That's less "politically incorrect" than it it is a fact of life.

Equally frankly, if anybody would like to call me a racist to my face, I'll be at Bristol this year.  Book your own ambulance though, because I won't be calling one for you when I smash all your teeth in.

What's the betting that the driver wasn't offended at all, but took the opportunity for a day off without it affecting the holiday he had left?

Hmmm... there is that...

I really should've said, "a reasonable point of view- up to a point".

Which I'm saying now.

I have to wonder how different in tone this thread would be if the advert read "Allah probably doesn't exist...".  There was uproar- from some of the same posters in this thread- about the Mohammed cartoons, so why not afford the same respect to other religions?

Technically it does, since 'Allah' and 'God' are direct translations of one another, and in a sentence in English you should be using the former.

Tell you what- go and stand in Leicester City centre with a microphone, shouting , "God does not exist", for ten minutes.  When you've finished, shout, "Allah does not exist", for as long as you are able.  I will book you an ambulance in advance and we can discuss the merits of technicalities at some later date.

That needless pedantry aside, though, my view is that people have the right to be offended by the views others express, but not necessarily to demand they stop saying it.

A reasonable point of view- which, sadly, isn't the answer to the question I asked you at all.

[there's probably no God and people who think there is are divvies]

Is the bus dissing his religious views, though? Yes, it's an ad expressing a view at odds with his own, but it doesn't say "there's probably no God and people who think there is are divvies" - I think we'd all agree that's pretty out of line. Ultimately, buses carry ads, but nobody expects the driver to endorse the message thereupon, otherwise screenings of Saw V would be full of bus drivers every night. By all means he has the right to refuse to drive these buses, but his employers shouldn't have to humour him if they don't feel so inclined.

The implication is there and you'd have to be a bit dim not to see it, IMO.  Either way- what's the difference?  He finds it offensive and has taken the only sane protest action that he can.

I have to wonder how different in tone this thread would be if the advert read "Allah probably doesn't exist...".  There was uproar- from some of the same posters in this thread- about the Mohammed cartoons, so why not afford the same respect to other religions?

That's all I'm saying.

What this board really needs is a shrugging smiley.