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that's a good point.  The fact there's no evidence of something happening doesn't mean that it definitely didn't happen.  We can't prove without a doubt that JFK's election wasn't won by fraud, any more than we can prove that there isn't a tea cup in elliptical orbit around Saturn.  Do you have any evidence that the first alleged event is more likely to be true than the second?

If you insist - http://www.adversity.net/florida/Frame_Fla_Stories/Kennedy_Daley_1960.htm - if that ain't good enough, well we'll resurrect both JFK and Bill Daley from the dead via a seance and we can both ask them whether or not deliberate fraud took place in 1960, would that satisfy you then?

that's a good point.  The fact there's no evidence of something happening doesn't mean that it definitely didn't happen. 

Dwight Eisenhower as well as many Illinois Republicans knew there was outright fraud perpetrated, and even encouraged Nixon to challenge the results, but Nixon - ever the gentleman - decided against it because he thought it would have been too divisive.  I'll say the same to you as I did to Rich; if it's Republicans/conservatives/Christians/Israel in the firing line, you're only too willing to believe the worst at face value, but challenge liberal icons like JFK or that nice pleasant old man Jimmy Carter (how could such a likable old gentlemen be a raging Jew-baiter underneath, oh perish the thought ) and you get the kind of third-degree you're giving me now, double standard perhaps?

Personally, I'm still waiting for you to substantiate your claim that Jimmy Carter is a vicious anti-semite. 

What exactly would you like me to show you, Carter's Hamas membership card?  If it looks, walks, and quacks like a duck, chances are it's a duck... I'm not trying to convince you, I know what Carter thinks of Israel, his words state it plainly, seventeen of own employees at his institute left in disgust over his 2007 book, which if you don't think is an anti-semitic screed, then absolutely nothing I say here will ever convince you otherwise, I've said my piece about Carter, move along dude, move along...

Oops, forgot to say one more thing; just because no-one owned up to, continually denied being part of, or has photos of anyone actually stuffing ballots or perpetrating actual voter fraud in 1960 doesn't mean it didn't happen Rich, it's highly amusing how people like your good self believe reports at face value of alleged (not to mention utterly unsubstantiated) voter fraud by Republicans in 2000, but have a visceral reaction to any accusation of voter fraud by Democrats in 1960, funny that...

I fear that your devout partisanship clouds judgement of the facts.

Nope, the Commission on Civil Rights is a discredited body, although I was wrong to say they found no verifiable disenfranchisement (it was a sloppy lapse in memory recollection on my part, hands up), but only insofar that they did indeed put supposed disenfranchisement into their 'report', but in truth, it was a partisan majority looking for somewhere to grind their Democratic axes, the fact that conservative members of that commission had another thing to say about that 'report' and the rather suspicious fact it was 'leaked' to liberal news agencies first., but don't take my word for it; http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/5/162803.shtml. 
Bush/Cheney won that election fair and square, whatever problems there may have been weren't intentional acts of deliberate voter fraud, and it was the Democrat lawyers not the GOP ones that picked which Floridian counties to dispute the results of.

Bush won, served two terms, and will be vindicated by history as a great-if-flawed President, get over it.

Last week i spent two days off my face on diazepam and tramadol, which had a similar effect on me as 'slow-mo' does in the dredd movie. I did not find myself able to react faster than usual, and instead spent a lot of time sitting down and staring into the middle-distance, and dribbling.
SBT

, brilliant, you were like Bobby Hill, "the milk in the fridge is about to go off... and there it goes".

C'mon Beaky. Now you're just looking for things to worry about. Haha!
It's exactly right. Tight and lean. No danger of it overstaying its welcome. I tend to judge how much I've enjoyed a movie by how the very last shot leaves me feeling. Trust me: Last shot's going to have you all ripped up and ready for more. I was roaring at the top of my lungs!

Good enough for me, words from the master, dude...

Karl Urban - Olivia Thirlby signing posters (small clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU5BcvN6v0k&feature=relmfu

Man, could Olivia Thirlby get any sweeter, she's one classy lady, and no mistake...

Hey blackmocco dude, as someone who's actually seen Dredd, did it feel short or about right to you?

Democrats steal elections? (cough) Bush/Cheney 2000 [cough)

Don't believe the agitprop about that election, Bush/Cheney won that election fair and square, every - and I mean EVERY - count in Florida had the GOP ticket ahead of the Gore/Lieberman one, not by much granted, but it was ahead, even after EIGHT recounts, and the Supreme Court stopped any further recounts because every one before had shown Dubya ahead, the Civil Rights Commission even conducted a six-month investigation into reports that minorities had their votes uncounted or weren't able to vote at all, and do you know how many verifiable cases of disenfranchisement they found; ZERO, that's right, not one single case!  Gore/Lieberman got 500, 000 more votes nationally than Bush/Cheney, but the Presidential election isn't a popular vote, it's an electoral college one (thank goodness too), and Bush/Cheney won Florida by 527 votes, thereby taking that state, and by extension, the Presidency... case closed.

... and thank drokk for that!!!

Anyone a little disappointed about the supposed 96-minute running time, or is it about right for a tight and focused Dredd movie?  I actually thought it would be closer to 106 minutes - mostly because the leaked script was about 110 pages in length - but I'm fine with it as the film is going to ROCK, so whatever!  Will say one thing though, and no-one's brought this up yet, but Dredd is exactly  the same length as the 1995 debacle, a coincidence or supreme irony...!?

Mostly positive reviews, a fantastic clip released, and the web abuzz with all things Dredd, the countdown has started, it has begun; be excited, be VERY drokkin' excited, I know I am...next stop September 7th, all aboard, this is gonna be one heckuva ride!!!

Can someone fill me in on this voter ID issue that's upsetting the Democrats so much over the pond? They're against it and I'm a bit confused as I thought having ID would help prevent the fraud issues they are constantly harping on about at every single election.

Republican state governors want to make sure anyone who votes is both eligible to do so and is actually a U.S. citizen in order to do so, Democrats rely on voter fraud to win elections - JFK's theft of the 1960 election, the dubious Washington state gubernatorial result in 2004, and Al Franken's highly-suspect Senate win in 2008 being the best examples - and thus don't want ANY voter ID laws whatsoever, using the most inflammatory racially-tinged rhetoric to try and paint the GOP as racists to ethnic minorities, whose votes Obama simply has to get in order to win in November... the fact that just about every western developed country in the world (except the U.S.) has voter ID laws seems to have escaped them!

Probably stirring up another hornet's nest here, but don't care, Dredd reviews are mostly enthusiastic and overwhelmingly positive, so I'm feeling invincible right now, tomorrow'll be a different matter probably...

La Roux - in for the kill (Skream Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d2wbzg0gCY

Sounds awfully familiar, I know I've heard it somewhere before, but can't quite place it ...

Where and when should we expect the first tentative reviews to filter out, then?

Full theatrical trailer released - http://web.orange.co.uk/p/film/home?package=2047 - still don't know about this one, at least they've removed the terrible blue-grey tint from the teaser trailer, notice it's released in the U.K. and Ireland a mere FIVE days after Dredd, hope it doesn't take away from the latter at the box-office...