Main Menu
Menu

Show posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Show posts Menu

Messages - Jon

#436
Hi Kev,

Welcome to the board. I hope you'll forgive me for going hot on the heels of PJ; I'm pretty much in the same boat as you as I'm only just finishing up on my first 'proper' strip right now. And, in the interests of full disclosure, my submission to 2000AD was squarely and soundly rejected. :) So I'm certainly no expert, and I can't give nearly the same level of expertise as PJ.

That said I have come to attempting to draw comics having worked as a commercial artist for a few years, and there are one or two basics that I feel until you overcome are making the whole thing difficult to appraise as a whole.

1. Consistency. Your approach seems to veer a little from realisticish to cartoonish. The shot of the child particularly in panel 1, page 2 feels a little Muppet Show.

2. Perspective and grounding. A couple of examples where this particularly stands out. Page 2, panel 4 in the cubicle scene - it feels a little like he's being accosted by a dwarf and a giant. Likewise page 3, panel 4 and page 4, panel 5 - those street scenes just don't quite sit right, and the perspective feels very harsh, almost fish-eye in the first. That may be what you're after, but even so, a second look probably wouldn't go amiss.

3. Details. Page 1, panel 5. Dredd's gun barrel seems a bit limp? It's an easy fix, and it would help no end. Also the legs of the Academy of Law seem to hang over or obscure the steps. Would the architect have intended that? Again, I think a second look could help here.

4. Lastly - anatomy - and man, will you get sick of hearing this! But it's eternally true for anybody who wants to produce figurative work, and you'll probably never stop learning (and making mistakes). I think you still need to do quite a lot of work in this area as at the moment it really just doesn't come across as something you're completely comfortable with.

I sincerely hope none of this comes across as unduly harsh. There's clearly ability there, I think you just need a little longer to refine it. Rather than diving into inking I'd be tempted to use what you've got as preliminary boards, and maybe redraw the lot. Really look at each panel, and make sure that what you want to convey is there. Is it the best POV? Is it clear what's happening? And with some of the more difficult poses try and find some reference that's as close as possible to what you've drawn to double-check against. Failing everything else, photograph yourself. If nothing else, it's a useful exercise.

One thing I've found enormously useful is to get in touch with some of the writers/ artists and small-press guys here, and see if you can do some work with them. You get to work closely with the writers and really make sure you're both agreeing on what's been put across. The one or two I've worked with so far are especially shit hot and the story-telling side of things, and will really help you get the best out of panel placement, action and making sure you can get the sodding speech bubbles in. And, you know, you get your work seen in the mean time.

Anyway, whatever you decide, all the very best with your endeavours. Look forward to seeing your stuff develop.

#437
General / Re: JUNE ART COMP - REVERSALS OF FORTUNE
14 June, 2012, 07:21:22 AM
Quote from: Emperor on 14 June, 2012, 05:15:41 AM

So on to idea #2 - it is a two-pager (that is a page a week sumsfreaks)...


Are you sure?  :P
#438
Creative Common / Re: Does my Art look big in this?
13 June, 2012, 10:09:13 PM
Quote from: DoomBot on 13 June, 2012, 09:28:31 PM
Been somewhat demotivated recently. Trying to ween myself genty off brown....


You seem to be succeeding.  :D
#439
General / Re: JUNE ART COMP - REVERSALS OF FORTUNE
13 June, 2012, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: Large48 on 13 June, 2012, 07:03:46 PM
The Glorious Jon or Lols Fox??????????????

Difficult one but excellent pics already, just wish I had some shred / hope of talent in this area!

I wish there was better money in it.

Hello, by the way! I think we met, at the Orbital Drokk gig. I was Boo's short-arsed mate.

If that wasn't you, then; Hello, we haven't met.  :-[
#440
Books & Comics / Re: The Zarjaz & Dogbreath Thread.
13 June, 2012, 05:44:11 PM
Yeah, also thanks, downloaded and donated.

Beautiful and.... horrible. Really, really horrible.

Good work.
#441
Off Topic / Re: 12th June 2012
12 June, 2012, 11:45:25 PM
Not old. Not even nearly.

Happy birthday!
#442
General / Re: JUNE ART COMP - REVERSALS OF FORTUNE
12 June, 2012, 12:40:25 AM
Neatly proving why some of us need to work with writers;

#443
Off Topic / Re: Threadjacking!
11 June, 2012, 05:55:34 PM
Look at my pitcher!



I should be in the prog!
#444
My studio head brought back a magazine from E3 with my artwork all over the cover (and over 7 pages inside). Until that point I knew nothing about this.

http://www.gdmag.com/img/covers/%20JJ645x864%20large.jpg
#445
General / Re: JUNE ART COMP - REVERSALS OF FORTUNE
07 June, 2012, 04:05:53 PM
Writers lie. It's well known.
#446
General / Re: JUNE ART COMP - REVERSALS OF FORTUNE
07 June, 2012, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 07 June, 2012, 03:40:50 PM
Cheers to the glorious Jon for his theme for this month's comp:

"Reversals of Fortune


Ah, that's very kind, but I can claim no credit. All Emperor's idea.

I like "The Glorious Jon" though. I wonder if work would reprint my business cards?
#447
General / Re: MAY ART COMP - THE RESULTS THREAD
06 June, 2012, 09:19:45 PM
Woo! First thing I've ever (partially) won!

Thanks everyone.
#448
Creative Common / Re: HOT DANG DOODLE!
06 June, 2012, 11:40:34 AM
Some more "bored at work" scribbles from Friday.

#449
Some great stuff. Really great.

I loved these three especially for finding interesting angles;

1. A Question of Faith by The Enigmatic Dr X
2. Pariah by The Legendary Shark
3. Peer Pressure by Blue Meanie

And this just made me laugh;

HM: The Men Who Were Bad At Their Jobs by Roger Godpleton
#450
Creative Common / Re: Does my Art look big in this?
01 June, 2012, 11:02:55 AM
Quote from: Nightbook on 01 June, 2012, 09:48:17 AM

Haha, this is something I struggle with - knowing when to step away from a painting isn't easy.

Heh, that's easy - that's what deadlines are for. :)

Quote
I'm always tempted to add a bit more polish, to tidy up the rough edges, but it's often counter-productive and if I overdo it the end result feels too clean and sterile. Sometimes I feel as if I've painted the life out of the picture - which is kinda the case with that second Armitage pic (I really love the first pic but the second one... not so much).

The pictures that are a bit rougher often feel as if they have more energy to them, but I find it immensely difficult to get the balance right.

Yeah. I think art's about looooong a series of epiphanies really. From my experience I'd say just push it as far as possible. The beauty of working digitally, of course, is you can make as many iterative backups as you like (I tend to work in Dropbox these days as it does it for me) so there's really nothing to lose. At some stage you have to risk making a mess and ruining what you thought you had 'cos, unfortunately, all the really good stuff's usually on the other side of that.

I find it can help to stay looser too - start with a few strokes, a patch of colour, be fairly chaotic; it'll help add and elements that you can work into. Then you're more free to adapt and  make changes as you go. You've really gotta make sure the basics are right before you start polishing or it's just a huge waste of effort, but it should ultimately help deliver that energy you're looking for.

Largely though it depends what you're actually aiming for. The above piece I put up was a way of keeping my hand in at producing a "speed-paint"* that conveyed what I needed it to in 3 or 4 hours (in my job I only get to produce concept work some of the time, the rest of it being taken up with the tedious bullshit that is actually computer games art**. But I might get someone needing something by the afternoon, and I've fallen foul of allowing myself to get rusty in the past). If, however, I was planning on using it for a print cover, for example, then I'd consider it to still be largely at the under-painting stage, and be probably looking at another couple of days to get it up to standard. And I'd add some sort of background or context.

Alex Ronald's blog title sums it up beautifully; "Never finished only abandoned".

*For the record, I hate the term "speed-paint". There's no such bloody thing, okay? It's just PAINTING at different levels of finish. It's just some wanky, hipster term someone made up to add unnecessary mystique to what they do.

**Yeah, yeah, I know, and my solid gold shoes are too tight. But it's BORING, okay?