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Meanwhile, John Howard is celebrating the tenth anniversary of the Iraq invasion by lying his arse off, one more time, just for the fans
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/howard-ignored-advice-and-went-to-war-in-iraq-20130411-2ho5d.html

I remember hearing that Sony had arked up and complained about it, so it was changed to 'Fony', 'short-sighted over-reaction' being too long to fit over his eyebrow

moved house two weeks ago and the internet and phone was connected right away!
   The rats in the walls of the new pad seem to have carked it.

oh and I've got more work than I can handle, I like the work and I've just had a very good souvlaki

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If you think the Oz situation couldn't be resolved on the spot diplomatically then so be it. If this did happen and he was terrified that it would've caused a diplomatic incident, probably along the lines of when some Oz bird touched the back of the Queen the other year, then god help us all.

It really is quite simple I would've thought. The racist Thatcher says her piece and he does a polite laugh. He then says to Maggie something along the lines of 'You must say that to my wife, she will love that' and then he introduces her. Now that wouldn't cause a major incident would it!

Now if he was so terrified that we would invade because of this, why not wait until the next day and go on the news about it then. I refer you to my earlier post about not being sued by the dead.

I don't know what you're getting at Commando Forces.  I think it's pretty simple too.  Thatcher said something kind of racist, he thought it was  a bit insensitive, especially given the proximity of his wife and he remembered this when asked to reminisce about her.  You'll note that he said lots of respectful stuff too.  I don't think he did anything cowardly or wrong at the time.  I don't think he has done anything hypocritical by repeating the story now and your little story about what he should have done hasn't changed my opinion.
  That's about it really.  Feel free to drop Bob Carr a line explaining what he should have done.
      Moving along, there's a piece by an American writer, Lionel Shriver, explaining that Thatcher was a real feminist because she knew what she believed in.  That's a tired alibi for all sorts of obnoxiousness - people used to say it about Joh Bjelke Peterson (pretty much our most corrupt politician ever) -
'well at least you know what he thinks, hah hah'.
   This is not to say that Thatcher was as corrupt as Bjelke Petersen or that everything she did was awful, just that it's a lame reason for respecting someone.
  Shriver doesn't explain why an American thinks its great the the British hold on to Nothern Ireland, but it obviously turns her on. 

Why not put a lovely header above your link, like Racist Thatcher the truth is out!

I always love this sort of stuff from people who know you can't slander the dead and end up in court. I could waffle on about Australias navy not long ago stopping those same migrants trying to get into the country but that wouldn't be fair.

Why did he wait until now to say that, apart from not being able to be taken to court. He says that he couldn't believe what she said and luckily his wife was out of earshot, as she is Malaysian born. What a joke, if that had been me I'd have called her out and made her repeat it in front of my wife and other witnesses. That fact alone speaks volumes about the man if you ask me.
Very poor point put forward, must try harder!

By the way, I shall take all you lot going on about the milk song to task later. If you want to save me the trouble search the web and look at what Labour did the decade before and also why she was actually against stopping the milk. Damn I've given it all away

Facts do ruin things don't they!

Why didn't he say anything about it earlier?  Well everyone is giving their two cents about Thatcher, why shouldn't Bob Carr give his?
  I'm not sure what your point is in asking why he didn't make her repeat it in front of his wife.  Is picking fights with foreign dignitaries what politicians are supposed to do?It's great to hear that you'd have done it differently - that'll come in handy the next time a foreign PM drops in on the UK and says something to you that would offend your wife.  I don't have to worry about these situations myself; (a) because I married a Japanese, not a Malaysian and (b) because I don't meet Prime Ministers.

welcome aboard Spawnsey, I'm like you except I'm selling off my collection to save space and preserve family harmoney.  If my ship comes in, I'll buy the lot again.
  Is the Ouya any good?  It looks interesting, I'm thinking about one as a Christmas present for mini-Floyd

I'm a bit worried, but like the rest of the world, somewhat blase about Kim IIIs threats.  I have family in Japan and friends in South Korea and am worried about the world supply of kpop videos. 
  As for the possibility of mistakes...well, it's not as though western countries would start a disastrous war based on crap information and lies now is it? 
  My Chinese students all think the North Koreans are a bunch of bludging ratbags and would like to see their government cut Kim loose. 

I used to do fencing, but wouldn't class myself as a lethal weapon.

Anyway, back to manx gaelic.....

Quick everyone - smilersaltash is about to purchase If The Judge Child Quest hardback and The Cursed Earth hardback for only two pounds each plus postage!  Rush to this thread, eccentric millionaires and others,

cheers,

Floyd

wondering where Clive Palmer's* whimsy is when you need it

*don't look him up - eccentric and obnoxious Australian billionaire who is going to build a new version of the Titanic and is starting a new political party because the Queensland government isn't corrupt enough for him.  Unfortunately not into comic collecting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22087702

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well said Trout.  There's a bit of post hoc ergo propter hoc involved in accounts of her life, along the lines of:
- Thatcher happened
- the cold war ended
so Thatcher made the Cold War end. 
  As you say, we're all into Sci Fi and counterfactuals.  Would the Cold War really not have ended without Thatcher?  I'm stuffed if I know how she made a difference to it at all. 
  As for the 'she took us out of a socialist hell-hole', well, I wasn't there.  It's definitely not the case, as her hero Hayek would have it, that having progressive taxes and a social welfare system lead inexorably to being East Germany

in non-Metal news, I've been listening to 'the essential Mondo Rock'.  It's mostly good fun 80s stuff, but not really Essential.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hKg50qJ90w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sHpd4CxxR0

I was trying to be funny, Supersurfer, obviously not successfully.  Since all the previous posts seemed to be about ancient but awesome martial arts teachers, I thought I'd turn it around, like the old Onion article, 'family tells of man's cowardly fight against cancer'.
  No aspersions were meant to be cast on actual real life awesomeness and/or arse-kickery. 

things look worse in the 70s because they're older and daggier and a lot of the good things are intangible and can't be photographed.  Unions, like governments, can be lazy and corrupt as well as useful.  Attacking the unions very existence is as sensible as saying we shouldn't have government because Kim Jung Un runs one or that we should do without music because One Direction are musical.  It's more fun to read about silly demarcation rules (like the argument in the BBC about whether the clock on Playschool was covered by the Electrical or Carpenters union) than it is to read about increased workplace safety.
  Thatcher's love of freedom seems to have been limited along tribal lines - she was into it for the Eastern Bloc, not so much so for the South Africans and Chileans.  She didn't just abstain from any boycots, but positively encouraged Pinochet.
  I love 80s music but I would - I was 17 in 1980.

yours, stillintoHeaven17,

Floyd