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Interesting to read that folk don't like Guys - I thought it was great, a strong contender for greatest ever comics lettering, with funny indie-book cameos and a clever perspective on showing Sim's hated 'matriarchal society' from the bottom, while at the same time actually being the granting of Cerebus' fondest wish.  And who can't empathise with Bear's frustration with his obnoxious so-called friend.

It's also worth noting that while this was running Bacchus and possibly Sandman were also doing 'live in a pub and drink and tell stories for evah' arcs.

The start of guys I found a little hard to read, but once I got into it I found it to be up there with the best of Cerebus. I guess it can seem a little directionless after the previous books, but it is about Cerebus trying to understand himself.

I stopped at the end of Guys (didn't lile that too much) and I'm still to read Rick's Story or the stuff that follows up to the second half of Latter Days which I read as it was coming out. The first 200 issues though are some of the best literature I've read, let a lone comics.

I whittered quite enough about it here.

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=34683.0

I finished Rick's Story this morning, and then read Going Home and Form and Void this evening.

Guys through to Form and void are what I think is the second half of the story, I am not going to spoil the reveals but it is definitely worth reading. Cerebus is a damaged person in this section, he has voices in his head, he is constantly trying to uncover and assert this masculinity - it is all very sad . . .

Guys is a struggle at the start but I recommend sticking with it.

I am not going to read Latter Days as it had so much text about religion that it looks awful. I read a synopses which was enough for me. I will read the last day and let you know if it's worth it.

Cerebus - the whole thing. I am up to Rick's Story (collected book 12) and it is completely gripping. Reads was the only misstep so far but it has been one of the best comics I have ever read.

Since —apparently— no one else is remotely concerned by the behaviour I described, I will put Butch on ignore and do my absolute best never to respond to another of his posts.

I appreciate the insinuation that I might be making this up, though, Skullmo. Nice one.

Jim

I am not intending to perpetuate this, I just want to respond to your concern.

I am not insinuating that you made this up. I do not frequent the same pages you do, it doesn't interest me to read them.


I will explain my comments below.

So what was the conclusion?   
-  I am looking to draw a line under this situation. In my opinion this would ideally be for you and Sauchie to make up and discuss your concerns elsewhere, eventually resolving them. As one would in real life, rather than on the internet.

Is Sauchie/Butch/etc allowed to post his opinion? Or does the claim that he is odious in another place prevent him from doing this/advocate personal attacks?
- It is a claim, as it is based on your opinion. Should behaviour elsewhere prevent posting on the forum? In my opinion no, but then I am not an admin. I thought that the opinion expressed while a bit bizarre was not offensive in any way. When people say 'so and so is s*it@ then I take offence at those comments.

It would be nice if an impartial admin can make a decision either way and have words as the childish bitching is getting really tiresome and to leave unresolved will just perpetuate it. 
- Not just related to your argument but to the ones that followed on this thread. While it is always fun to read meltdowns on forums from a ghoulish observer perspective I think that overall it damages the whole community spirit. I know that everyone cannot agree all the time, especially on the internet, and that arguments happen however it is my opinion that admins should step in to moderate these situations getting out of control. Without some conclusion reached I couldn't help but feel this would be one that would bubble away.

I hope that helps explain where I was coming from and I hope you can now see that I was not intending any personal attack.

So what was the conclusion?

Is Sauchie/Butch/etc allowed to post his opinion? Or does the claim that he is odious in another place prevent him from doing this/advocate personal attacks?

It would be nice if an impartial admin can make a decision either way and have words as the childish bitching is getting really tiresome and to leave unresolved will just perpetuate it.

I refer the honourable gentlemen to my previous remarks about Sauchie/Butch/WhateverTheFuckHe'sCallingHimself's tedious close-reading schtick. Seriously. Get over yourself, son.

Jim

Bit harsh.

More than a bit harsh, just downright nasty.

Skullmo, that Redondo commission is quite staggeringly good.

Isn't it! I was blown away!

This look alike a collection of reprinted daily strips - they would have made a bromide of them I assume to fit the page size of the Prog.

Although it is hard to tell with such a bad photo - they may just be cut and pasted

Love these posts!

Draw a map of the room - like you would get in the fighting fantasy books

Very nice - I love LaBan's art

Good memory - there was indeed

I am not sure if I ever posted these here

Cor - an Indigo Prime cover! Fantastic bit of Weston.

Yes, I was most pleased to get this one. It even comes with a note from Chris suggesting the cover tag line! A very creative gent.

Doesn't Rebellion have access to the original films taken from the original artwork

As we've mentioned before, the films of older Progs were really not looked after at IPC/Fleetway and large chunks of them are very damaged or plain missing. KAT-Scan does the very best with what we have access to.

Bear in mind that the old Titan volumes were undoubtedly taken from this film before it was lost/damaged, so it's not fair to compare the two of them. And no, Titan do not have copies of the films; we checked.

Wouldn't scans of the Titan volumes produce better results?

Yes

Great to see more activity on this thread!

That Davis cover is gorgeous - I was very very tempted by that. A modern classic.

And that is a classic Apocalypse page - the wagging finger of justice!

I am not sure if I ever posted these here:

Another Ninja Turtles pages - from return to New York. A classic page from anyone who knows the story.