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#1276
General / Re: Strontium Dog - Question
10 August, 2016, 06:27:05 AM
Quote from: Richard on 09 August, 2016, 08:40:09 PM
QuoteOther than the Judge Death stories, does Judge Anderson tie directly to any Dredd story-lines?

Not really, although she also appears in several other Judge Dredd stories, as well as in Judge Death an in her own series. And Orlok, the villain from the Judge Dredd story Block Mania, is in three later Anderson stories.

There is a one-episode Dredd story called The Brainstem Man which is a prologue to an Anderson story called Helios.

But other than that, her stories stand up on their own. They're light on continuity so they're easy to get into without needing to read lots of Dredd first.

Thanks for the info, I really have enjoyed her character so far so Ill give her PSI files a read for sure.

Quote from: Magnetica on 09 August, 2016, 09:01:03 PM
Re Robo Hunter- there have been three incarnations.

What I was reccomending was the first of those written by John Wagner and drawn by Ian Gibson.

The next version was written by Mark Millar and drawn my Peter Hogan. I am pretty sure a lot of folk round here would agree with me on this - avoid like the plague.

The next version was written by Alan Grant and drawn by Ian Gibson. These feature the grand daughter of the original protagonist (Samantha Slade as opposed to Sam(uel) Slade. It was ok I guess, certainly better than the Mark Millar version but not as good as the original.

As to whether Dredd and Strontium Dog are in the same universe: absolutely not in my opinion. Yes there have been some cross overs, notably Top Dogs from one of the Annuals with fantastic Colin MacNeil painted art and (the so-so IMO ) Judgement Day ( which ran in both the Prog and the Meg).

These were more convoluted ways of getting the characters in the same strip rather than a convincing tying together of the strips. If it helps you think of them crossing over into a parallel universe. Personally I just ignore that element and enjoy the strips. There are way too many contradictory events in the two strips for them to be considered in the same universe and to even attempt to do so is, IMO detrimental to each.

Thanks for all the info on Robo Hunter, by the sounds of it the first incarnation may be the best/only one worth pursuing, plus I know it will be good because I enjoy Wagner a lot!

As to whether Dredd/Strontium Dog are in the same Universe, it sounds like it may be a preference thing. I like the idea of them co-existing, but a parallel universe explains things just as good.

Everyone on this board seems to know a lot about these characters and have a plethora of 2000AD knowledge, I came to the right place!
#1277
General / Re: Strontium Dog - Question
09 August, 2016, 06:43:55 PM
Quote from: AlexF on 09 August, 2016, 06:38:23 AM
Leviathan is AMAZING! Honestly, I didn't get into Ten Seconders as much but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on in it, and comedy Welshman Molloy adds a consistent layer of fun.

Has anyone recommended Bad Company yet? One of the best ever series I reckon. Full-on 'war is hell' comics, with philosophical / psychedelic overtones.

Thanks for the advice, I think Ill check out Leviathan as well and maybe skip on Ten Seconders for now. And no recommendations for Bad Company yet, you are the first! Thanks, Ill have to check it out too.

Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 09 August, 2016, 08:16:30 AM
May I add two further suggestions:

Glimmer Rats for a good one off (do a follow-up, dammit): Condemned prisoners fight a war in hell.

Al's Baby to really understand what 2000ad is about: a hit-man has a baby, but doesn't give up the day job.

But, really, there's just so much good stuff.

Glimmer Rats sounds great, others have recommended it as well so it must be good. I researched it and was able to find a HC copy online (I added it in my wish list!). Al's Baby sounds interesting as well! Ill look into it.
#1278
Website and Forum / Re: Full Posting Privileges
09 August, 2016, 06:26:07 PM
Thank you!
#1279
General / Re: Strontium Dog - Question
09 August, 2016, 06:33:34 AM
Quote from: Richard on 07 August, 2016, 09:10:09 PM
Rogue Judge,
Also try get the series Judge Dredd: The Restricted Files, Jusge Anderson: The Complete Psi Files, and also the book Judge Dredd: America which has two stories that were left out of the Complete Case Files (don't ask).

Also there was a story called Glimmer Rats which was collected in a hardback graphic novel ten or 15 years ago. People on this message board tend to mostly recommend old 2000 AD stories, but that was a very good recent series.

Also try Button Man if you think you might be interested in a present day, non-SF/fantasy story about a hitman.

Thanks Richard. I forgot about The Restricted Files and Judge Anderson: The Complete Psi Files, I will pursue those as well, especially the Restricted Files. Other than the Judge Death stories, does Judge Anderson tie directly to any Dredd story-lines?
Also thanks for your other suggestions!Glimmer Rats sounds great, I researched it and was able to find a HC copy online (I added it in my wish list!).

Quote from: dweezil2 on 07 August, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
Halo Jones is essential reading.

Alan Moore and Ian Gibson at the peak of their storytelling skills!  :)

I've heard this is a good one, its def on my radar, thanks for the recommendation!

Also, Anybody here ever read Ten-Seconders: The American Dream? I came across it online and it really stands out to me as having potential. Also Leviathan looks interesting.
#1280
General / Re: Strontium Dog - Question
09 August, 2016, 06:14:40 AM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 07 August, 2016, 07:37:01 AM
I'd agree Nikolai Dante is possibly the very best 2000ad has to offer. Trades can be a little patchy to get hold of in places alas so digital would be the way to go.

If not that then you could do a lot worse than Strontium Dog. If you fancy a new thrill that really captures the essence of the Prog I'd say go with Kingdom.

I read the first Nokolai Dante chapter and thought it was really humorous. Until this forum I didnt realize it was so popular. I will definitely have to give it a chance! Lots of people recommend Kingdom as well, Ill read a chapter asap.

Quote from: Magnetica on 07 August, 2016, 09:37:05 AM
Essential 2000AD in my opinion:

Dredd (goes without saying)
Strontium Dog
Slaine (but only up to the end of the Horned God)
Nemesis the Warlock

When you have read that I would try:

ABC Warriors (Mek Files 1 only - average afterwards)
Zenith
Nikolai Dante
Sinister Dexter (might be hard as not all reprinted)
Early Robo Hunter
Early Ace Trucking

Thanks for all the recommendations Magnetica! Im glad to see that I wont be running out of great 2000AD titles to read. I am enjoying Dredd and am really looking forward to Strontium Dog right now. ABC Warriors caught my eye (looks like Transformers?), and  Ill have to research Nemesis the Warlock. I read the four Zenith books a while ago and loved them, especially volumes 1 (I really enjoy war comics, and it had that war comic feel mixed with superheroes) and obviously volume 3 (epic!). I read an issue of Robo Hunter from the free app, and didn't really dig it, but I may have to give it another chance!


Quote from: sheridan on 08 August, 2016, 01:01:07 PM
Quote from: Rogue Judge on 07 August, 2016, 05:18:07 AM
Also, is this is the same universe as Judge Dredd?
I don't think anyone else answered this one, but yes, Strontium Dog is in the same universe as Judge Dredd.  Well, there's been cross-overs a couple of times - could be argued that there's some timey-wimey parallel dimension creation along the way but they're in the same universe as far as I'm concerned.  Which means we'll be due some atomic wars in Mega-City One's future in about fourteen years time.

Thanks for addressing this - I'm glad to hear they do, as I like the Idea of them coexisting in the same universe. I didn't know there were crossovers, hopefully I will come across them in the Case/Agency files!

Quote from: Dash Decent on 08 August, 2016, 02:20:59 PM
I know it's already been answered but I'm adding my two cents to say definitely give Strontium Dog a try.  It's so good!

Another story I'd recommend is Kingdom.  It's follows the story of Gene the Hackman, one of a number of genetically manufactured dog-soldiers, made by mankind as a last ditch attempt to hold back an alien invasion of bugs.  My description doesn't do it justice.  Start with Kingdom: The Promised Land.

I also really like the old-school thrill (or just old) Meltdown Man, but honestly, go for the four Strontium Dog Agency files collections first, and, like IndigoPrime says, don't stop until you've read the second and third books.  As with all the early 2000AD stuff it takes a little while for them to settle into their groove but once Carlos cracks how he should draw this one it's magic.  Kingdom is a newer thrill and knows where it's going right from the very start.

I'll definitely binge-read Strontium Dog when I get it - it usually takes me 2-3 days max to read the Dredd case files as I enjoy them the most in large doses (it really puts your head into the Dredd universe). Ill do the same with Strontium Dog too.

Also, thanks for the Kingdom recommendation, it sounds like a popular choice so I'll check it out soon. I like the alien/sci-fi angle to it and the fact that it is current. Ill try to track down Kingdom: The Promised Land, Its not on Amazon.ca so hopefully I can find one elsewhere. (I live in Canada it so its expensive to order from the UK)
#1281
Website and Forum / Re: Full Posting Privileges
09 August, 2016, 05:35:14 AM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 07 August, 2016, 09:21:10 AM
It's an anti-spamming strategy. I'd guess you've proved your worth and as soon as a mod spots this thread you'll get sorted.

Thanks, any mod who can help me out?  :D
#1282
Welcome to the board / Re: Hi - New 2000AD Reader
09 August, 2016, 05:32:16 AM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 06 August, 2016, 09:23:07 PM
Welcome aboard, looking forward to getting the questions and you'll find there's plenty of good folk in these parts to help. Always great to hear from a new reader, you've got a whole world of loveliness to explore, so have fun.

Thanks Colin! You are correct, everyone has already been so helpful! And Im finding out all kinds of new and great things about 2000AD.
#1283
General / Re: Strontium Dog - Question
07 August, 2016, 06:41:57 AM
I'm old fashioned in that I don't like reading Digital comics. Its not the same as holding it in my hands and seeing it on the bookshelf or long-box. I have tried a few online comics by downloading the free content on the 2000AD app, but it just didnt do it for me.

I would be very interested in a list of books you would consider selling. If you have a list I'd gladly take a look through it. Are your in the States? Thanks again.
#1284
General / Re: Strontium Dog - Question
07 August, 2016, 06:22:36 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 07 August, 2016, 06:02:44 AM
When I started reading 2000 AD back in 2005, this forum was an invaluable resource to wrapping my head around the shear volume of 2000 AD content, and how to get it.

Figure its worth passing some of that knowledge forward.

Yeah 2000AD offers a catalog of so many different stories and characters it tough to know where to start. I live in Canada and have been reading comics for about 20 years but I have become disillusioned with American comic books. So far 2000AD has been a breath of fresh air and kept me reading. Do you have a personal favorite? Thanks again for the help, newbies like me appreciate your time!
#1285
Website and Forum / Re: Full Posting Privileges
07 August, 2016, 06:08:56 AM
Quote from: Trout on 05 August, 2016, 08:43:48 AM
I'm under the control of Call Me Kenneth.

Haha Is this a cry for help?

A better question might be, how do I access my profile and add a picture? I don't think I have those permissions yet.
#1286
General / Re: Strontium Dog - Question
07 August, 2016, 05:57:47 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 07 August, 2016, 05:49:57 AM
A) Yes, Strontium Dog is worth reading. One of the best 2000 AD has to offer.

B) The Final Solution is the 'final' Strontium Dog story of the original run under Wagner. Other writers of.. debatable.... quality would follow it up with Strontium Dogs for a while. Eventually Wager and Ezquerra would return with Strontium Dog: The Kreller Conspiracy. Which would kick off a series of flashback tales of the main character. Until finally just continuing Strontium Dog where they left off at The Final Solution with The Life and Death of Johnny Alpha.

So you're reading order should be..

Agency Files 1-4
Final Solution
Kreeler Conspiracy
Traitor to His Kind
Blood Moon
Life and Death of Johnny Alpha
Life and Death of Johnny Alpha - Dogs of War

Explore Strontium Dogs era at your leisure as a curiosity. Some of it's been reprinted with the Megazine.

Hi The Adventurer, thanks so much! What a thorough explanation, I will keep you reading order list for my collecting purposes. I'm definitely looking forward to reading these books. Ill track down a Agency File #1 soon!
#1287
General / Strontium Dog - Question
07 August, 2016, 05:18:07 AM
Hello, again I'm new to 2000AD and just getting started. I have read lots of Dredd so far and am working at collecting all case files, Im at #11 so far and they have been amazing. I also collected Rogue Trooper Tales of Nu Earth and really enjoyed them too (gotta love that Dave Gibbons and Cam Kennedy art!).

My question: How is Strontium Dog? I like how it is collected in Case Files type format and the art looks great (Carlos Ezquerra). Are the Agency Files worth collecting and do they collect the complete story? The reading order looks a little confusing online so far (Is the final solution part of the Agency Files and does it end there?) Also, is this is the same universe as Judge Dredd?

I just remember reading a colored reprint ages ago where he captures Hitler I think..? I remember it being awesome haha I would like to know what you guys like about the character and if you have read the collections.

Sorry for all the questions! I have really appreciated how this community has been so helpful so far, thanks everyone!
#1288
Website and Forum / Full Posting Privileges
05 August, 2016, 03:57:50 AM
Hi, I am unable to post in several of the threads and cannot access my profile. Looking through old threads it appears a mod needs to change/update my privileges. Is a moderator able to help me out with this? Thanks a lot! (I am human, and not under the control of Call-Me-Kenneth)
#1289
Welcome to the board / Re: Hi - New 2000AD Reader
05 August, 2016, 03:50:54 AM
Thanks everyone!
#1290
Great chart, thank you for making that! I will definitely use it. (Also checked out your deviantart page - great stuff! Especially that ABC Warriors selfie!)