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I got this just for the first few issues collecting the original Star Wars adaptation which I haven't read since I was about 8 years old.

Lovely nostalgia *nom nom nom*

Forbidden Planet in Leeds now has one copy left.

Only read Dredd and Defoe so far, both of which are highly entertaining. A little bit confused about the ending of the Dredd strip, but it's a massive improvement over TC Eglington's last Dredd story in the Meg. The art (by a newcomer whose name I don't recall) is really good too.

And Defoe is back in the prog in 2015! Hurrah!

Has anyone picked this up yet?

I'm going to venture into Leeds on a Winter Spesh hunt at lunchtime. Wish me luck.

I'm a front to back kind of dude.

A nice long gaze at the cover, followed by a quick game of 'guess the artist' (got a pretty high hit rate).

Tharg's commands must be read first, followed by the damage report and any other items of interest on the Nerve Centre page, then straight into Dredd.

That said, I can't seem to shake the habit of quickly skimming through the whole prog before reading it properly, and this has caused a few surprises to be slightly spoiled. Can't stop doing it though.

I have also been known to throw caution to the wind and skip straight to a story that I am enjoying above all others to see what happens next, or a concluding episode of a good story, or even the first episode of a new story I'm keen to begin.

Rules are there to be broken.

That part with Mean Machine setting his dial really puts me in mind of the Sex Pistols animations used in the Great Rock n Roll Swindle.

Me too.

Yep. As I said, very reminiscent of the Captain Kremmen cartoons by Cosgrove Hall, who also did the animation for the Great Rock n Roll Swindle. And Dangermouse.

If it is the case that this has been done with no consent from Rebellion, then I'm against it regardless of quality. I just assumed that for it to get to this stage, the legal bidniss must have been sorted out and agreed upon in a similar fashion to Judge Minty.

Rebellion gave Minty publicity support in its newsletters, on this site and on its Facebook page, Twitter feed etc.

Simple question:  Have you seen them mention this anywhere at all?

Now you mention it, no. So how is it still able to be released? If Rebellion were against it, surely they would have been able to stop it.

If it is the case that this has been done with no consent from Rebellion, then I'm against it regardless of quality. I just assumed that for it to get to this stage, the legal bidniss must have been sorted out and agreed upon in a similar fashion to Judge Minty.

In fact, I don't think I've expressed any opinion at all on the quality of the product, rather I've suggested that what they've done is endangered future work and products that 2000AD could be putting out there.

Really hope this isn't the case.

OK. The minute Adi Shankar makes 1 cent of profit off this, everyone's allowed to say it's a big pile of fucking shit.

That is a beautiful cover

It is. The very talented John McCrea I believe.

What I find interesting about a large part of this debate is what constitutes a 'fan' project. To me, this isn't a 'fan' project, it's a low-budget professional project done without permission/agreement with the copyright holders, which will make money on adviews in youtube.

So how is this different than channel 4 spontaneously deciding they'll make a lower budget version of Doctor Who* but it's alright because they're all fans of it?


-pj
(*if such a thing is possible...)

Good point. Presumably Rebellion are convinced that this can be categorised as a not-for-profit fan project, or they would have shut it down long ago.

I don't have any idea what kind of revenue one could expect from YouTube ads, but It wouldn't be anything like the amount Channel 4 would make from a definitely-not-for-profit version of Doctor Who.

The idea that you can only judge this as if it were any other fan-made project is fairly ludicrous....

Please, judge away. I just don't think comments like "it's shit", before the first episode has even been seen, are particularly valid criticisms. Not too much of that on this forum, but some of the comments I've seen elsewhere have been needlessly rude.

....unless, of course, there's many other fan films out there that can clearly afford access to professional PR services that can get them coverage at major media entertainment outlets?

I don't understand what that has to do with extending common courtesy to someone who has created a not-for-profit tribute to a beloved character. Is it the fact that Adi Shankar knows a few people here and there who can help him get his project seen? Or the suggestion that he's spent some of his own money to get extra publicity?

Either way, he's basically a fan who is asking for nothing in return.

Yes, I that's what you want to do. As long as you criticise the creation and not personally attack the creator fill ya boots.

Yes, I that's what you want to do. As long as you criticise the creation and not personally attack the creator fill ya boots.

Fandom is under no obligation to be grateful for absolutely anything aimed at them just 'cos it's free and apparently created with love.

I agree, but if I peppered the art threads on here with comments in a similar vein to the ones relating to this project, I would, rightly, be branded a dick-head.

I'm not looking for a fight, I love you all, but I just think it might be appropriate to try to temper the ire just a bit.

If it's OK to call this shit and slag it off to high heaven, is it OK if I start ripping into some of the less 'professional' looking fan-art posted on this forum?

No, thought not.

Regardless of whether Adi Shankar worked on the film DREDD, this is technically a fan project, done out of love for no profit. All the negative comments aimed at this (not just on here, on Facebook and YouTube as well), AND Oliver Hollingdale's Cursed Edge project absolutely boggles my mind.

You're not paying anyone to watch it, the makers don't owe you, or anyone else a thing. If you don't like it, fine, you're not obliged to, but what's the point in putting people down for being as into 'our thing' as to make a free animated web series?

The entitlement of some 'fans' saddens me.

Sorry if it's not appropriate to post here - I was expecting to be seeing an RIP for this guitar legend in the near future, but not yet for Wilco Johnson!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/wilko-johnson-im-free-of-cancer-9811724.html

The man's a fucking hero. Diagnosed with cancer in 2012, he just said "Fuck it!", went on tour and recorded a new album. Now he's cured. Brilliant.

On the plus side - Low Life one-off for the xmas prog!

Yep, this will be my xmas treat too.

Used to have an old sofcover collection of these strips that I read over and over, but haven't read any in years.

Can't wait.