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In my experience, Christians ARE the least prejudiced, but I see you gave no specific examples, so I will; if you're talking about homosexuality, that's not prejudice, that's morality dude, the Bible clearly and unambiguously condemns it, and I'll go with God's opinion rather than humankind, who seem to change their definition of morality with the tide.

I'm certainly not having a go at people who do believe in the Bible. Just I can't understand that reasoning myself.

I don't think reasoning has much to do with it.

'Faith - Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.'

Some people will believe anything if they hear it enough times.

If that's where it starts and finishes then I'm with you but like I said I don't think an unquestioning faith is a healthy one. For my part I want to tear into stuff. I want to investigate with brutal honesty issues surrounding the reliability or otherwise of Biblical texts for example. I want both sides of the argument as well (btw I recommend Bart ehrmann and Greg Boyd big time on this for those opposing sides on the historicity of the gospels).

I like to question everything by nature and my faith is no exception. I couldn't be part of anything that had me sitting there like a zombie.
Blind faith=bad.

But surely, and I'm not taking the piss here, even a cursory and brief amount of time spent thinking about the facts surrounding the existence of any sort of 'god' and the veracity of any of the events in the bible would immediately lead one to the conclusion that there couldn't possibly be any truth to any of it.

The simple paradox that most christians swallow; that god gave us free will but also somehow influences events around us to change the course of our lives (by, presumably, altering the actions of people around us...who have free will themselves) depending on whether we are naughty or nice doesn't hold up to any sort of scrutiny.

To paraphrase a comment I saw on Twitter (author unknown) - "Flip a coin and pray for tails. It comes up tails and they say 'Praise Him!'. It comes up heads and they say 'Thy Will be done.'." You can't have it both ways.

When someone like Beaky Smoochies comes along and proves, with one post filled with hateful, hateful rubbish, that I am absolutely right, it seems too good to be true.

When he spews such hatemongering, anti-human nonsense in the name of 'love', it makes me angry beyond belief.

I hope you do as you say this time and never post here again.

You are not welcome here.

...as anachronistic and silly as the idea that the world is round.

I presume that isn't what you meant.

Ha! Yeah, just edited that.

You know what doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever? Any and all ideas about what was around before the universe turned up.

We will never be free until the world is rid of 'god'.

Immediately thought two things when I read that -"it'd take a hell of a lot more than that"

It would, but it would certainly be a step in the right direction.

and "people wouldn't be free to believe what they want".

I don't mean it in the sense that I'd like to 'ban' religion, I just hope the day comes when the concept of 'god' is considered to be as anachronistic and silly as the idea that the world is flat.

I admit, I don't see that happening in our lifetime, but I can dream.

Wow, looking forward to that. I don't think I've ever seen Langley doing line art.

[Beautiful classic black&white art kicks in in Ep3...]

Pat Mills just Tweeted some interesting news about the new ABC Warriors series -

'Hammerstein SOLO adventure leading to how he first met Ro-Jaws just started in 2000AD. Beautiful classic black&white art kicks in in Ep3...'

Doesn't say whose classic B&W art though.

I had a friend at work who was a born again christian who genuinely believed that the world was only 6,000 (or something) years old, and that dinosaurs and humans had lived at the SAME TIME. When I asked him where all the dinosaurs went he said "They were killed when god flooded the Earth". I asked him why Noah had disobeyed god's command to take '2 of EVERY animal' onto the ark but he didn't have an answer for that.

"OK" I said, "Let's say Noah didn't take them onto the ark for some reason, and that's why there are no dinosaurs anymore.", "Yes", he replied. "In that case", I continued, "what about all the sea dwelling dinosaurs? Surely they would all have survived"

Again, he had no answer for this but his beliefs remained unshaken because it doesn't have to make any kind of sense to him; it is a matter of 'faith' and therefore an absense of logic, evidence or any facts whatsoever is no barrier. In a sense, he won the argument because when you're talking to someone with no powers of reason, you can't win.

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seem to be lunatics that make me bang my head on my desk

Do you have to win though? Can't you leave them to their lunacy? Might be better for the blood pressure.

It certainly would. He wasn't a 'lunatic' though. In every other respect he was really nice. An intelligent, amusing lad who loved Star Trek and played drums in a (christian) band. Just a shame he couldn't free his mind.

I had a friend at work who was a born again christian who genuinely believed that the world was only 6,000 (or something) years old, and that dinosaurs and humans had lived at the SAME TIME. When I asked him where all the dinosaurs went he said "They were killed when god flooded the Earth". I asked him why Noah had disobeyed god's command to take '2 of EVERY animal' onto the ark but he didn't have an answer for that.

"OK" I said, "Let's say Noah didn't take them onto the ark for some reason, and that's why there are no dinosaurs anymore.", "Yes", he replied. "In that case", I continued, "what about all the sea dwelling dinosaurs? Surely they would all have survived"

Again, he had no answer for this but his beliefs remained unshaken because it doesn't have to make any kind of sense to him; it is a matter of 'faith' and therefore an absense of logic, evidence or any facts whatsoever is no barrier. In a sense, he won the argument because when you're talking to someone with no powers of reason, you can't win.

I've never been religious, nor was I brought up by particularly religious parents. We used to go to church at Xmas when I was really young and I can remember going to Sunday school a few times but I never once believed it to be anything more than moralistic fairy stories.

As I got older my views never changed. I believe in science and the need to demonstrate with evidence. I am well known, amongst friends and work colleagues, to be extremely anti religion as I honestly believe that a belief in 'god' (regardless of the particular religion in question) is the biggest barrier to human evolution and peace and understanding between us.

I find it hard to discuss the subject without becoming frustrated and angry and, being as honest as I can, not only do I have no respect for the religious beliefs of others, I lose respect for them in general when I discover that they believe in something as ludicrous as 'god'.

In my experience with people I know, people only turn to religion (especially christianity) when they've suffered some sort of catastrophic collapse in their lives (family break down, bereavement, recovering from heroin addiction etc.) and their 'belief' is akin to a drowning man clutching at straws.

I have met nice christians, muslims, sikhs etc. but there will always be a barrier between myself and these people because I don't believe that they are capable of perceiving the world and interpreting it honestly.

A surrendering of one's rational mind to a doctrine or set of rules is anathema to me and is a sign that the individual has relinquished their ability to think for themselves and evolve in a natural way as a human being.

We will never be free until the world is rid of 'god'.

When I saw it again on Sunday I paid more attention to the badges of the two Judges who initially turn up at Peach Trees in response to Dredd's distress call.

One is Volt (which we already knew) and the other one, I'm pretty sure, is Guthrie.

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Cover - Well, I said my piece in the last prog thread so I'll let Mr. Horse express my opinion this time -



Dredd - Lovely stuff from Chris Weston. A textbook (in a good way) Dredd one parter.

ABC Warriors - I really want to like the ABC Warriors. It's always been one of my favourite stories since the early series. I wasn't a fan of the previous Volgan War series so I'm approaching this warily. Nothing too horrible in the first episode apart from some horribly stilted expositionary dialogue. Clint Langley's art is ok too, as long as there are no humes.

Brass Sun - An intruiging start. The artwork is a little light on detail, but it seems to suit the story. It's a great initial set up and could go anywhere from here.

Grey Area - Lee Carter's art seems to get better and better. The strip seems to have settled down into more of a recognisable format now and I'm enjoying it.

All in all, a great prog.

At this rate the box office expectations will be met by boarders alone..

I mentioned this in another thread, but I will repeat it here also:

Remember folks, this may be the ONLY OPPORTUNITY we get to see it on the big screen, so do whatever you can to save money elsewhere and spend it on going to see it.

STOP MAKING ME FEEL GUILTY, I'VE GOT NO MONEY LEFT!

Is Hot Shot a round all on its own, or an alternative command for an Incendiary?

Didn't they use 'hotshot' as a name for the heat-seeker bullet in the early Dredds? It was obviously an incendiary in the film.

Where's Modpleton?

He's behind you!

My initial response to the look of the film was that I thought it looked a bit 'off' somehow - perhaps too grungy or too 'digital' in feel, and now I've seen it again I feel like I can articulate myself a bit better. Basically, I don't really like the colour palette/grading of the film. It's got a sort of greeny/yellowy cast which personally I find a bit sickly and off-putting for some reason. I know it's probably supposed to communicate the decay of the city, but I just don't like it. Also, other parts - mostly the slo mo sequences but not exclusively - have that obnoxiously 'teal and orange' grading that is so common these days.

Just a subjective thing, and as gripes go it's a minor, cosmetic point. Others may like it, but I probably would have preferred a different approach, maybe a cooler, more desaturated pallette, with the reds - as on Dredd's visor and the copious amounts of blood - picked out.

I, on the other hand, really liked the colour pallette used. I thought the high contrast and sickly yellows really added to the whole queasy atmosphere. I liked the bright red blood too. Not deliberately disagreeing but these were things that stood out to me as real positives.

I've been trying to avoid finding fault, at least for a while, but if I was pushed, I'd have to say there were a couple of issues.

I can't pretend that I wasn't a little disappointed with the extremely contemporary look of Mega-City One, especially the fact that the city wasn't as densely packed with blocks as the comic version. Also, the vehicles were a bit too modern day. I was forwarned about both of these aesthetic issues from reading the film threads but I still couldn't help imagining how cool it would look if it had been a bit closer to the comic.

It came close during the scene just after Dredd and Anderson had blown out the wall and jumped out onto the skateboard ramp. The nighttime view of the city and the beautifully lit blocks looked great.

I realise that some of this was down to budget and my disappointment faded once the action moved into Peach Trees.

The only other issue I had was that I thought the actress playing the Chief Judge didn't do a very good job of projecting the authority that the role demands. She was too casual and laid back.

All the important stuff; Dredd and Anderson's character, dialogue, uniform, bike, gun, the lok of the blocks inside and out, all done perfectly.