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D'ya hear about the constipated mathematician?  He had to work it out with a pencil.

Those who use scissors on the job have their work cut out for them.
A fisherman hated fish and chips but he didn't tell a sole.
The first time I got hold of a hang glider I had to wing it.
What it boils down to is this: eggs taste good.
She owned twenty shoe stores and was very well heeled.
Old math teachers never die, they just become irrational.
He finally came clean, and found that he was all washed up.
My two uncles bet who would get married first. Then one upped the ante.

Anyone with the good taste to call themselves "Shakara" is surely welcome here!

What's this Camelot thing all about, then?

An excellent take on this issue from PJ Holden has just gone up on the 2000adreview.co.uk forum... to paraphrase, as you get older, you grow progressively less afraid of being childish.

Link: www.2000adreview.co.uk

'fucking shagfest cocksucking gorey bastards'stories

One or 2 wouldn't hurt, I guess.  Apart from Devlin Waugh, that is.

:)

Here we see one of the big problems with internet message boards - people aren't allowed to have an opinion that disagrees with the majority, so they get told to "piss off".

That's a little bit self-aggrandising, isn't it?  Your original post attracted several serious replies, some of which agreed with some of your points, all of which tried to construct a rational argument.

Only one person told you to "piss off", and he was immediately told off by another respondant.  It's hardly a messageboard uniting against you, is it?

I think it is in part a reaction to your original message, which went in for a pretty sweeping statement against the very thing that everyone on this board, almost by definition, is a fan of... hardly likely to be a welcome message!

...dudley

Shakara -

Er, yes, you are.  That's why Shakara is cool.

Can we stop the "gay is bad" thing, please?










Jared makes all his money round the back of king's Cross.

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Hear me now, Jared?

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The problem is, as others have said, in the word "mature" - it could mean grown-up, it could also mean "Available from specialist bookshops only".  Unfortunately, in comics it doesn't seem as though editors and writers are very good at telling the one from the other (hence Babe Race 3000).

I'd argue that childishness is actually an integral part of science fiction.  It's inevitable in that our society defines the sort of wide-eyed imagination that goes into imagining future/alternate worlds as a childish quality.  Look at the way futurologists are treated in the press as an example.  Just like a child, science fiction is far more complicated than its image, and again just like a child it contains violent and sick imaginings as well as the innocence or unworldliness we ascribe to it.

You seem to have set up a dichotomy between, on the one side, realism/darkness/maturity and, on the other, fantasy/humour/childishness.  The strength of the Rebellion-owned 2000AD group at the moment is precisely that it combines both of these, and combines them pretty well.  You couldn't get darker or more realistic than the Bendatti Vendetta or Charley's War, or sillier and more cartoony than Bec n Kawl or Lobster random.  The attraction is precisely in setting these stories side-by-side.  to get very pompous for a moment, the contrasts give a window to the soul, demonstrating the split nature of the human psyche, our very best and our very worst together.  That's the attraction of an anthology comic, its essential hybridity, even cultural schizophrenia.  

The relentlessly dark, graphic, one-note comics you describe are all very well in short bursts, but I prefer a bit of sunshine with my arsenic.

I read Time Flies & Time Flies II back-to-back, and unless I grew up an awful lot in the half-hour break between the two sessions, only the first series is worth reading.

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ATTN Wake:

I know you're always very reluctant to do this, but is there a chance this thread could be removed?

We're slagging off someone, not making any judgement how justifiable that is, just that they're not here to defend themselves.  And if that person were to be a nasty little spite filled sexually inadequate figure sitting under a damp bridge, this thread is ammunition for him to kick off a fight when he's allowed back in...

RC's been posting on the excellent 2000adreview.co.uk site as well, and hasn't done anything wrong or semingly put anyone's back up there.

Ninja midgets, obviously.