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What REALLY grates is that Superhero movies make crazy money but 99% of the viewers can't name one comic artist that ever worked on that character and would be embarrassed to read one.

Anyway no one has heard of any of the artists that we all know because outside of comic fandom comic art is just about the most underrated and undervalued form of art there is.Why that is i will never understand.

Me neither. So much of the comic artist's personality comes through in their telling of the tale. It is as easy to get caught up in as a singer's voice or a writer's prose style or an actors acting. And yet so few see it. They do not see the sublime in it.

Oh and in regards to the other tangent: Ezquerra b&w> Belardinelli b&w>Ezquerra colour.

I wonder what it's like growing up with a Dad who is considered a god in certain circles but that the vast majority of the population is unaware of.

So true! We worship the Divine Squirrel round these parts, and I for one would probably fall into a dead faint if he popped round our house for a bocadillo, but aside from old Squaxx and some die-hard Ennis fans (Venn diagram time again), who else in the already-small world of comicdom (never mind the real world) would even recognise the name? It's a funny old game.

I used the phrase "obscure comic artist" in a serious conversation the other day (I think in reference to Matt Howarth) and then proceeded to bust out laughing when I twigged to the total absurdity of what I was saying. It's comics; they're nearly all obsure. Maybe not Alan Moore and Frank Miller(though he should be) but all the rest no ones heard of.

SLOUGH FEG
RO-JAWS
MEK-QUAKE
DR. FEELY GOOD
HOWARD QUARTZ
CHARLIE BOURNE
 HOOKJAW
TOMAS DE TORQUEMADA

That last one was the hardest.

Don't know why, but seeing the name Hector Ezquerra in the prog really got me excited. Sons or Daughters of comics artists tend to have  significant talent of their own. If Hector ends up being to Carlos what John Romita Jr is to John Romita my brains will leak out my ears.

The Meg should interview Hector. I wonder what it's like growing up with a Dad who is considered a god in certain circles but that the vast majority  of the population is unaware of.

I can do this:

Mek Quake
Torquemada
Charlie Bourne
Doctor Feely-Good
Marshal Law

Just wanted to add my support to your project. It looks amazing. That said, I'm more impressed by you choice of Judge Minty as a character. I think the Judge Minty story was the first in the collected case files where I thought, THIS is what Mega-city is about. It had the sorrow that seems to underlie the best Wagner stories.

I'm tellin' you, Vortex press had it going on.

Brubaker and Philips have yet to screw up.

Grant as always you speak much sense. Pressbutton would have been perfect.

Anything by Ted Mckeever or Guy Davis. Shit, I think Tharg/Smith should call the former immediately. He's not doing anything else worthwhile. And don't worry he's Canadian so it should work.

Set your mind at rest faplad.

I'm not talking about comics. There is no argument there and never has been. For the last eighty years there have always been, somewhere in the globe, good comics available to those willing to find them. And that is more true now than ever. Matter of fact, twenty years ago someone let me buy a copy of Love and Rockets. At that moment that comic was better than any TV show and movie I was watching, better than any book I was reading.

But you know what? Forget respectability. Let's talk comics as kids entertainment. Just the kids comics. Even if comics were just Carl Bark's Uncle Scrooge, Jack Kirby Comics, Caniff's Terry and the Pirates, Tin Tin, Asterix, Peanuts... Do you see where I'm going? There is no 'just.' They are serious bodies of work that those artists spent all of their creative energy on. And frankly all of the comics I just mentioned pay the adult reader back for his or her attention. Craft is craft.

Anyway, set your mind at rest. I did not start reading anything from 2000ad till I was thirty-three. Tooth has NO NOSTALGIC VALUE for me. It does not in anyway bring back happy memories of my childhood. It is just good comics with a great deal of mental power hidden beneath its pulpy exterior.

Oops. That's what I get for using the thread title for my spelling reference.

Anyone know if Hinkleton is working on something at the moment?

I'm not sure who Legend is. If he's sort of a Superman stand-in

Only if the last son of Krypton was a bitter foul-mouthed midget comic chop owner!

Robertson looks alot like Rick Veitch in this panel.

Yeah, The Boys is great but sometimes I wish I knew more about American comics so I could get all the references in there, I'm sure I'f like it even more! I was re-reading my TPB of volume 2 just last night and wondered if anyone can shed some light on this little rant; It's when Hughie meets 'The Legend' under the comicshop for the first time. The Legend says (I'm quoting here so apologies for the offensive language used):

"I hate all that comic book crap! Reminds me of those cocksuckers I outlived... Did I ever tell you about those fucks? That faggot they named the awards after... and that godamned ingrate had the balls to sue me -- what's the matter, Buddy, little dark in there...? Someone had to be in charge goddamnit!"

I assume the first half of the sentence is some kind of pop at Will Eisner, but who or what is the second half all about? Does anyone know the gossip?

Haven't read The Boys yet. I was afraid it was Ennis being shrill again. (The comments on this thread give me hope.) So I'm not sure who Legend is.  If he's sort of a Superman stand-in (like we needed more) my guess is that it refers to Jerry Siegel's suing of DC over the right's (or was it royalties) to superman.
 
And there's more where that came from come to think of it. Stan Lee also sued Marvel over money due for Spiderman profits. Kirby sued Marvel to get his original artwork back (reasonable enough). Marv Wolfman sued Marvel over the character Blade to which he said he had the right's. Joel Simon is suing Marvel over the right's to Captain America which he co-created with Kirby in the forties. There is a massive Bleak House like sue-all over the rights to Miracleman going on as we speak. Americans: we breath, we litigate.

I think Alan Moore said it best when answering a question as to why he wouldn't work for the big two:"I don't see the characters, I just see a long line of dying old men who never got the money they were due."