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I thought you guys might appreciate this. These are two lovely pages of Dredd art by Steve Dillon and I was outbid at the last minute. Damn.

Tarantino

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I've just finished watching Things To Do In Denver When You're Dead and apart from this being a classic movie, it stuck me that STEVE BUSCEMI would make a perfect Judge Death. This may have been suggested before, as I usually bring up topics that have previously been discussed but I will take that chance.

If the producers did not want to use animation or special effects to create Death, then STEVE BUSCEMI would be ideal, just stick a bucket on his head and your off. I think this would be ideal casting, just like Patrick Stewart playing Proffesor X, he was born to play the part. I think this is what STEVE BUSCEMI career has been leading up to.

If STEVE BUSCEMI was not available then Gary Oldman would also be good, in fact there's very little between them.

Tarantino

Link: http://www.crazy4cinema.com/Actor/buscemi.html" target="_blank">http://www.crazy4cinema.com/Actor/buscemi.html

I'll try it with the link this time

Have a look at this link, the guy thinks that this prog 1 is in reasonable condition. I'd hate for him to set me up on a blind date...... "Yea she's not bad looking, in fact I'd go as far as to say she's reasonable" If he said that to me, I'd be thinking why not, what's the worst thing that could happen.

If prog 1 turned up at the bus stop, I'd not be a happy bunny.

Tarantino

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Have a look at this link, the guy thinks that this prog 1 is in reasonable condition. I'd hate for him to set me up on a blind date...... "Yea she's not bad looking, in fact I'd go as far as to say she's reasonable" If he said that to me, I'd be thinking why not, what's the worst thing that could happen.

If prog 1 turned up at the bus stop, I'd not be a happy bunny.

Tarantino

Can someone help this man, (please see link).

I'm pretty damn sure that it's not 2000AD or Megazine artwork, but does anyone know where it's from. I certainly don't recognise it, or the artist.

Even if someone can help him, report back here as well, co's I'm curious. (And now my cat's dead!)

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How come Rebellion or Wake has just posted the news of DC comics acquiring the North American rights to 2000AD material and in the same paragraph have reminded us that they have done a deal with Shorleline to produce two Judge Dredd films. This is strange, since we all now are led to believe that I Am The Law Productions (whoever they are) are now making one movie with a different script, does this mean that I Am The Law are part of Shoreline?

I wish Rebellion would keep us up to date with stuff like this. How about it Rebellion, what's the story?

Tarantino

This might sound like a stupid question but does anyone know if Neil Adams is still around/alive and if he is is he still drawing/working. I am unaware of any recent works. I remember meeting him in 1979 at the Forbidden Planet when it was on Denmark Street and I have just come across some art that he signed for me. I remember, myself and a friends asked him who his favourite character was to draw and who his least favourite character was. Batman was his favourite and Thor or Odin, the least favourite, I can't remember which.

The reason I am asking is that I think he would draw a fantastic Dredd. That leads me onto another question, what American artist would you like to see draw a 2000AD character and why (someone who has not already done something)

Tarantino

Like the title of the thread says, I have had an idea. It dosn't happen often, so I may need to lie down. I've recently started buying pages of original 2000AD art and also, recently sold the last two pages of the Judge Dredd story from prog 4 to a guy in America. He's asked me to look out for the other pages for him as he would like the complete story from that prog.

With this in mind, I am sure that there are other collectors out there looking for specific pages, so if Wake was up for it, why not include a section within the website where we can all list the pages that we have and our contact details. Anyone who has even one page should be encouraged to list what they have, even if they don't want to sell it.

Rufus Dayglo has hundreds of pages and he has exhibited these in the past, it would be fantastic if one day in the future, thousands of pages could be exhibited in a gallery somewhere in London and the website could be a great resource for tracking down pages. It could even be included in a future Dreddcon. What do you think Wake and everyone else.

Tarantino

Yes I'm talking about all you guys (and me) but it's not my opinion.

I've just been reading this months Focus. For those of you who don't read it, it's great monthly magazine, with all the latest insights into the world of science and technology.

In issue 137 they have done a geek test, to find out how geeky you are. Apparently you can consider yourself a geek if you own a comic which features Batman, The Silver Surfer, Sandman or, yes you guessed it, JUDGE DREDD. This is actually just part of the test and there are 30 other qualifiers. Watching Robot wars and completing a 1,000 piece jigsaw also qualifies you.

I Know they say spending on plastic is expensive but I thought that they were talking about credit cards.

See link

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I was just thinking, it's been too quiet for too long with regards to the Judge Dredd films. Shoreline have still got the movie details on their website and Rebellion are telling us nothing. What's going on?

Shoreline have ignored my emails but if all of us inundate them with questions about the two movies, then they might just get fed up and tell us what stage they are at.

Simply click on the link to automatically be able to send an email, if all of us send at least one that should be enough. Anyone who gets a response, post it here.

Tarantino

Link: http://www.shorelineentertainment.com/contact.html" target="_blank">http://www.shorelineentertainment.com/contact.html

OK I've been lazy and not started many new threads this year, so here's one. I was just going through some back progs and realized that I much prefer some of the older more established artists, compared to the current crop.

For me Bolland was the definitive Dredd artist and a close second was Carlos Esquerra, although I think he can lay claim to Strontium Dog.

What artist do you guys associate with which character?

Who do you guys think is the

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much Rebellion paid for 2000AD and the rights to all the characters?

Tarantino

I'll keep posting these crap jokes until someone asks me how much prog 2 is worth!!


A store that sells husbands has just opened in Cincinnati where a woman may
go to choose a husband from among many men. The store is comprised of 6
floors, and the men increase in positive attributes as the shopper ascends
the flights. There is, however, a catch. As you open the door to any floor
you may choose a man from that floor, but if you go up a floor, you cannot
go back down except to exit the building.

So a woman goes to the shopping center to find a husband.

On the first floor the sign on the door reads: Floor 1 - These men have
jobs. The woman reads the sign and says to herself, "Well, that's better
than my last boyfriend, but I wonder what's further up?"

So up she goes. The second floor sign reads: Floor 2 - These men have jobs
and love kids. The woman remarks to herself, "That's great, but I wonder
what's further up?"

And up she goes again. The third floor sign reads: Floor 3 - These men have
jobs, love kids and are extremely good looking. "Hmmm, better" she says "But
I wonder what's upstairs?"

The fourth floor sign reads: Floor 4 - These men have jobs, love kids, are
extremely good looking and help with the housework. "Wow!" exclaims the
woman, "very tempting. BUT, there must be more further up!"

And again she heads up another flight. The fifth floor sign reads: Floor 5 -
These men have jobs, love kids, are extremely good looking, help with the
housework and have a strong romantic streak. "Oh, mercy me! But just
think... what must be awaiting me further on?"

So up to the sixth floor she goes. The sixth floor sign reads: Floor 6 - You
are visitor 3,456,789,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor.
This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank
you for shopping Husband Mart and have a nice day.

As promised, I said that I would start a few more unrelated threads, si inline with my New Years resolution - here's a joke. Enjoy!

LITTLE DAVID ON...PHILOSOPHY
 
A teacher asks her class, "If there are 5 birds sitting on a fence and you shoot one of them, how many will be left?"

She calls on little David.
 
He replies, "None, they will all fly away with the first gunshot."

The teacher replies, "The correct answer is 4, but I like your thinking."

Then little David says, "I have a question for YOU.  There are 3 women sitting on a bench having ice cream:

One is delicately licking the sides of the triple scoop of ice cream.

The second is gobbling down the top and sucking the cone. The third is biting off the top of the ice cream.

Which one is married?"
 
The teacher, blushing a great deal, replies, "Well, I suppose the one that's gobbled down the top and sucked the cone."

To which Little David replied, "The correct answer is the one with the wedding ring on', but I like your thinking."

I'm off sick today, does anyone know if Dredd has appeared in the Metro yet, if not, what date he is due to appear.

Tarantino

I am as excited about Judge Dredd apearing in the Metro as the next guy (though I still don't know when his first appearence will be) but he's been there and done that, first in The Daily Star (so no exposure there) and then in Heavy Metal Magazine. I'm not so sure how successful he was but I think if it's a Dredd story, it should be at least double the traditional space that it allocted to the average newspaper strip and in colour to build up a new fan base.

With this in mind, I think Nikolai Dante would be more suited to a newspaper strip and would have a wider appeal. What does everyone else think, are there any other characters which you think would be better suited than Dredd?

Ok, to turn over a new leaf and as a New Year?s resolution, I will join in more threads and start new ones, as long as PaulVonScott promises not to come home drunk and use the ?F word? anymore.

I will start by trying to justify my remarks regarding the current progs and the last Dreddcon.

Firstly, I deliberately missed the Dreddcon in 2002, as I refused to pay the exorbitant entrance fee, that was a complete rip off. The Dreddcon this year was a let down for me because I remember the first one, which had a great atmosphere and seemed to be celebrating 2000AD. They had Judges Walking around and loads of other interesting features. They just seemed to put lots of effort into it. This year?s seemed to be a promotion of Herolix and related products in the downstairs area. When I went upstairs and walked into the room where they were giving talks, the panel looked at me as if I had interrupted a board meeting and there were a few fans dotted around the room, waiting in silence for it to start. It just felt cold. The talks may eventually have been great and really interesting but I did not wait around to find out. The highlight for me was meeting Carlos Ezquerra, what a nice guy and all the other artists and writers seemed to be making an effort and doing what they could for fans (so a thumbs up there). Also, I got a chance to play the new Judge Dredd game and I really don?t understand why they designed it as they have. Looking down the barrel of Judge Dredds gun was completely uninspired. Dredd is such a visual Character and the game is based on him, so why can?t we see him walking round Lara Croft style?

My remarks regarding recent progs were, perhaps, a little extreme, they are not so bad. I am just disappointed because up until prog 2004, they had not had a decent artist on Dredd for a long time. I believe that Dredd has kept 2000AD afloat through some lean times and so he is their main man and he should be treated as such. What I am saying, is, I am not a fan of Siku, his style is too basic. Also, apart from Dead Men Walking, other, recent strips have not lit my fire. I guess it?s just a matter of preference. I will keep my remarks to constructive criticism in the future.

As usual my thread has gone on too long but In response to a request by DavidXBrunt I will start a thread telling you about my likes and dislikes in the new year and I will also tell you a little bit about me. That way you will be able to see where I am coming from in future threads.

Happy New Year to you all.

Cheers - Tarantino

Wow! I know I can inspire heated debate but I?m starting to feel like Salmon Rushdie, I may go into hiding until the Fat One is lifted, co?s he?s starting to feel heavy and I?m finding it hard to breath!

OK, I will try to defend myself one more time, although if anyone else takes another shot, I may go down.

I initially started buying duplicate issues of prog 2, because the first time I purchased one it was such a thrill, as I am a huge Dredd fan. I then bought another one to recreate that buzz and it spiralled from there. I now own more than I probably should but I never bought them in the first place in order to sell them on and I still do not plan to sell them on. I am trying myself to understand why I own so many and I believe the reason is as follows. If a dedicated Superman fan got hold of Action Comics number 1 it would be a fantastic thrill, as there are very few in existence. I consider myself a dedicated Judge Dredd fan and although owning prog 2 was a thrill, it was somehow diminished by knowing that there were many copies still out there. To counter this I started buying duplicate issues and I now believe that I have a collection which is not matched by any other Tooth fan. I think this equals the feeling that a Superman Fan would have in owning issue one of Action Comics. I have gone to a lot of trouble to obtain copies of prog 2 and have travelled up and down the country in pursuit of my goal. I will admit, I am pleased when they increase in value but still do not plan on selling them and I probably never will (I say probably because everyone has their price).

My previous threads have mainly been about promoting Tooth. I have done this by hyping back issues because I believed that if there was a thriving market in back issues, this would also create an interest in the current progs amongst collectors and investors, who do also have an interest in reading comics. I believe that this is also a way of getting in through the back door in America. As with music, if we can crack the American market then Tooth would be sitting pretty. Despite what various boarders have said, I still believe the above to be true, or at least, as part of a strategy.

Without being critical, I don?t see anyone else on the board trying to promote 2000AD, although I may be wrong, as I don?t read all the threads. To be honest, and I have avoided saying this but I am not too happy with the current story lines, characters and art in 2000AD and do not believe that Rebellion are doing a good job at the moment. I would hate this to be the beginning of the end. If they do not have the success with the Judge Dredd game as that hope to, then they might just drop the comic like a bad apple, but I think Rebellion have their own agenda and only time will tell.

I would just like to finish by saying thanks to Devons Daddy for being my only ally in the last thread, it was nice to have a voice of support amongst all that hostility. Thank you DD.

Also, my collection does not just consist of prog 2?s. I also probably have the biggest collection of Judge Dredd and 2000AD paraphernalia in the world. I do have a life outside of 2000AD but this is my hobby and I get great pleasure from it.

Now, as requested in my last thread, I will create another thread, unrelated to promoting back issues. I will talk about Tooth and my likes and dislikes, I may even tell you a little bit about myself and I promise never to post another thread related to hyping back issues, although the first appearance of Lobster Ransom might be worth getting hold of.......just kidding.

Thank you for listening and come on PaulVonScott, lift that Fat One, he?s heavy and he ain?t my brother!

Hi Guys

I have been promising to write something along these lines for a long time now and intended to entitle it 2000ADs collectability but things change, especially my mind.

I think we are missing out on some of the mighty progs potential and this is something that has not been addressed or taken advantage of by the guys at Rebellion.

I?m 38 now and so can remember back to when comic collecting was just taking off in the UK. There was only the Forbidden Planet, which was based on Denmark Street, in the West End of London and soon after followed Dark They Were and Golden Eyed. Comic Conventions also started to become popular but they were only about 3 or 4 times a year.

I touched on what I believe killed off or seriously damaged comic collecting in the nineties, in a previous thread and so will not go too deeply into that but to start and set the scene, I will discuss what I believe fuelled the craze in the seventies and eighties.

Many people are like magpies, they enjoy collecting, but what they collect depends on what captures their interest first. It could be stamps, coins, art or in our case comics. One of the reasons collectors originally started collecting comics was because they wanted to make their sets or runs of comics complete. For example if you bought Spider Man number 4 and started reading from there and enjoyed it, you would probably make an effort to buy issues 1, 2 and 3 but since they are no longer in circulation you would have to buy from another collector and pay a premium. You would then keep these safe and continue collecting the whole series. This is true of most items that people collect but comics are unique in that they have many other factors which influence their collectability. For example first appearances of characters that later on become more popular, increase a comics value, thereby creating key issues. Hulk issue 181 introduced Wolverine and now sells for hundreds of pounds, Amazing Spider Man 129 introduced The Punisher and is therefore much sort after, X-Men Giant Sized 1 and issue 94 introduced the new Uncanny X-men and both these issue are priced at ?1,000 + for a near mint copy. This is also true of popular villains, I think Iron Man 54 introduced Thanos and X-men 5 introduced Magneto, both these comics are in demand and very expensive. In addition to these influences, another factor has arisen. Once an artist becomes popular, his earlier work, when he was less well known, increases in value. An example being, the late great Jack Kirby or even living legends like Neal Adams.

The reason I am talking about American comics is because they started to introduce artificial means to increase a comics collectability, such as multiple covers, crossovers and platinum covers, which as we all know, has now backfired. There is now a gap in the market, which I believe 2000AD can fill.

2000AD has all of the above factors, which instigated and fuelled the original comic collecting boom in the seventies.

Firstly, there has been a single run of 2000AD since 1977, currently reaching prog 1371. This would be a challenge for any collector to complete and ultimately a very satisfying achievement. Secondly, in this run, covering 4 decades, over 26 years, (you can work that one out!) there have been many popular characters introduced, thereby creating key issues in 2000ADs history. For example, as you all know prog 2 introduced Judge Dredd and sold last year for ?551 through Comic Book Postal Auctions. Prog 149 introduced Judge Death. Prog 228 introduced Rogue Trooper. Prog 1035 introduced Nikolai Dante. I will mention all the other key issues later. In addition, 2000AD has also launched the careers of many artists who have become massive world wide, as a result, their first works have appeared in many different progs, artists such as Brian Bolland, Carlos Ezquerra and in recent years, Henry Flint. The progs where their art first appeared will one day be much sort after.

Another factor which 2000AD has, which American comics don?t, is the inclusion of free gifts in certain issues. When free gifts are included, most are taken from the comic, used and then discarded. This means that the issues which are preserved with their free gifts intact, are then much harder to find, the comic is not complete without the free gift and cannot be considered near mint.

Apart from prog 2, all the other issues, from 30 onwards, can currently be picked up for a few pounds, many are being sold unwittingly at comic conventions for 50p - ?1.00, when they are a potential goldmine. In addition to the above, it is much harder to find near mint copies of the first 500 progs of 2000AD due to the poor quality paper that they were printed on

I believe that 2000AD is the new Marvel because it has all the factors needed to recreate what fuelled the original craze and like Marvel, there is a whole Universe of Characters, which has been built up and established in British culture over the passed 26 years.

With all of the above in mind, I have created a list of what I believe are the key issues that will eventually increase in value. I will also include what prices they are currently selling for.

Prog 1 (Very hard to find in Near Mint, with free gift, which was a Space Spinner. Top price ?551 Comic Book Postal Auctions December 2002).
Prog 2 (Very hard to find in Near Mint, with free gift, which was the Bionic Stickers. First Appearance of Judge Dredd. Top price ?551 Comic Book Postal Auctions December 2002).
Prog 3 (Very hard to find in Near Mint, with free gift, which was the secret agent wallet. Top price ?221 Comic Book Postal Auctions December 2002).
Prog 4 ? 10 (As with the above, much sort after and very hard to find in near mint, current prices range between ?15 - ?40 each)
Progs 71, 72, 77 & 78. (All these progs were banned due to infringement of copy write and will never be aloud to be reprinted. (Prices vary on ebay, but depending on condition they sell for between ?20 and ?40.00)
Prog 149 ? 151 (First run of the three prog Judge Death story. Also, first appearance of Judge Anderson in prog 150. Approx ?7.00 each)
Prog 160 (First appearance of Mean Machine and the Angel Gang. Approx ?2.00)
Prog 228 (First appearance of Rogue Trooper. Approx ?4.00)
Prog 300 (This copy is very hard to find with the free metal Judge Dredd badge stuck to the front. Approx ?4.00)
Prog 330 (First appearance of Slaine. Approx ?1.50)
Prog 780 (First appearance of The Button Man. Approx ?5 but very hard to find with the free wallet, which was attached to the front)
981 (First appearance in 2000AD of Sinister Dexter. Approx ?2.00. Although they did appear, for the first time, in the 1995 2000AD Winter Special)
1035 (First appearance of Nikolai Dante. Very hard to find with the free Space Girls Poster. Approx ?2.00)
Prog 1159 (Came in two covers. One with Devlin Waugh on the front and one with The Hangman. Very hard to find with the Hangman cover. The Devlin Waugh issue also had a free CD Rom. Approx ?2.00)
1208 (There was a pallet load of this issue damaged by flood and so it was not distributed well throughout the country. There are now very few in circulation and may be the rarest 2000AD comic after prog 2. Prices vary on ebay but it has sold for between ?20 and ?50.00).

In addition the Summer Special Super Comic from 1977 is very hard to find and sells for between ?20 - ?35. Also, mentioned above, the Winter Special from 1995 has the first ever appearance of Sinister Dexter and for some reason does not appear very often on ebay but when it does, it sells for about ?10. The first 2000AD annual from 1978 is the hardest of the annuals to come across and sells for about ?15 - ?20. There are some copies which do not have the 1978 date on the cover or the spine, also, they are not priced inside. These are very scarce and I have only ever seen 2 copies. I cannot remember what price they sold for but I value them at about ?50.

All the above comics are not the only key issues and I am sure many of you can think of a lot more. Also, I have not included the first appearance of any artists work, so if anyone has more time than me, it would be great to see a more comprehensive list.

My main point for writing this piece, is because I am trying to make the point that nobody seems to realize the potential for many of the above comics and if any of the other characters take off in a big way, such as Nikolai Dante or Rogue Trooper, then prices will sky rocket. I would love to see more of 2000AD back issues at comic conventions, this can only lead to new readers and lapsed readers returning to the comic. Finally, the reason I am saying that Rebellion is not taking advantage of this, is because at this years Dreddcon, there was only one stall selling back issues and they were from about progs 500 and above, many were multiple issues and it was totally uninspired. Surely the place to sell back issues of 2000AD is the Dreddcon, they certainly had enough space.

So, my message to you guys is, that you can pick up 2000ADs with first appearances and great artists, for a couple of quid, surely that?s a risk worth taking.