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The only issue missing from my collection is issue 1208. If anyone has a copy to spare I would pay ?15.00 this would included sending it recorded post.

Many thanks - Justin

Following on from my last posting. Two days ago I bid ?21.00 for the free gift that came with issue 3 of 2000AD and I have just visted Ebay to find out that the current high bid is ?60. That's for the gift by itself without the comic.

And there is still 7 days to go until bidding ends!

I posted this before, but ?365.00 was paid on Ebay on the 20th March 2002 for a mint copy of 2000AD number 2 with the free gift and ?235 was paid for issue number 1 with the gift. Then on the 21st April 2002 ?255 was paid for a copy of number 3 with the free gift and agin on that date ?255 was paid for another number 2 with gift. I know this because I was outbid on all those items. Finnaly I paid ?150 for number 2 with gift through Comic Book Postal Auctions.

OK I know that we flogged this to death on the last outing, but I really like to wind Blackblood up.

For those of you who didn't follow the last debate. Just over a month ago, 2000AD number 2, in mint condition, with free gift, sold for ?365 on Ebay.

A few people were of the opinion that this would price back progs out of the reach of your average reader.

I was almost alone in my opinion that this was ridiculous and that there would always be lower grade progs available to everyone.

The reason I am brining this debate up again, is because that when we finished the last one, it ended, I think with Blackblood proclaiming that this was a one-off. Ha ha, not so I say.

On the 21st April issue number two, in a lower grade condition but still with the free gift sold for ?255 and issue three with the free gift sold for ?235.

Anyway, just thought I'd get a few licks in while Blackblood was still down!!

Hey Doug, stop taking your aggression out on the board, or I'll send Blackblood round to kick your arse.

I just realized that Prog 1208 is missing from my collection. If someone has a copy I will pay ?10 plus postage. Many thanks.

You're being defensive again, that's a dead give away!

Hey you're a reader, stop pretending to be a collector. Honestly you guys!

Ahh you closet collectors are so defensive when challenged. It's a dead give away.

Oh you collectors, you don't even realize what you are. The first step is the hardest, once you have the courage to admit it you will realise that there are others out there to, just like you. We should form a club. Come on guys, hey guys, hello, anyone there, hey who wants to be my freind? I have a mint copy of..........

>>>Readers do not have the space or inclination to store 200, 300, 400+ comics for when they want to reminisce<<<

This reader does :-)

"I've got thousands of books & thousands of comics, but this is my passion"

You sound like a collector, go on admit it!

I ain't never going to let this go. Blackblood are you still there.

One last thing I forgot to add. Do you know how much space 1,183 comics take up? Too much space, that's how much. When you get married and the old lady gives you an ultimatum, her or the comics. As tempting as it may sound to keep the comics and ditch the bitch, you'd be better advised to find a nice home for your valuable collection or you ain't gonna be getting none of the other. Wanking over Durham Red/Judge Anderson (delete as appropriate) losses it's novelty and ruins the comic. The point I'm trying to make is, that the home you find for your comics will probably be with a collector. Readers do not have the space or inclination to store 200, 300, 400+ comics for when they want to reminisce. Your 1,000 plus progs will be bought, broken down and scattered across the globe, bagged and tagged, ready for another generation to enjoy. What more can I say on this subject?

I was going to let this go but something is bothering me.

Blackblood, you said and I quote:

"Problem comes when the collection & preservation of old comics becomes more important than the comics that are left to gather dust on the shelves of newsagents today. I get angry when I see all of this attention - and money - spent on comics from 25 years ago, instead of on the scene today. Celebrate past glories; pay tribute to classic comics like 2000AD, but for Christ's sake, invest something in today or there won't be any British comics to collect in 25 years time."

You can't have it both ways. There is a celebration of past glories because people love what they see today. We pay tribute to 2000AD because it is still around when other comics have fallen by the wayside. From your point of view 2000AD is becoming a victim of it's own success. The high prices of earlier progs reflect the esteem with which the comic is held in today. That's the nature of the beast. If you don't like the attention and money spent on comics of 25 years ago, then let the collectors get on with collecting and you concentrate on the scene today. Also I might add, you may not be interested in comics of yesteryear but comic collectors ARE also interested in the current scene, since that is what inspires them to seek out and preserve old comics. Comic collectors, as a byproduct, are doing us a service. In 100 years time when they have cut down all the trees in the Rain Forrest and there are no paper products, who will we thank for what has been preserved?

Lets agree to disagree. Anyway what about Mark & Pauline on Eastenders........

I'm sorry to keep brining up the same subject but I won't rest until I get my point across. I feel I need to respond to Blackbloods last rant!

Fair enough Re: Judge Dredd doing for England what Superman has done for America. Maybe what I should have said was that he has far and away the potential.

On to my main point and to quote Blackblood:

"I'll fucking quit reading the day 2000AD becomes "collectable" - I don't want the damn thing to be out of the reach of average readers, or have thousands of issues sold to people who are going to bag & board them to sell on eBay at ridiculous prices."

You must have a stiff neck looking up at the many things going over your head.

You won't have to quit reading when 2000AD becomes collectable, since it is already very collectable and you're still reading. My original point was that the earlier 2000AD's were printed on such poor quality paper and finding them in good condition is so difficult, hence the mint copies are selling at high prices. There are plenty of the earlier issues in less then average condition and if you are reading 2000AD for readings sake then you will only be paying ?1 - ?2 a copy. As a reader you won't be excluded from buying back issues to enjoy the content, it does not matter how much Progs 1, 2 & 3 are going for.

Furthermore and to really bore the pants off anyone who has bothered to follow this debate, Bagging and Boarding old issues of 2000AD is NOT A BAD THING! firstly and most importantly they are being preserved for antiquity. If you just read them and let them rot no one is going to be able to enjoy them in the future. In the 2nd place if they are bagged there is only a piece of sellotape between you and the comic, bagged does not mean buried.

Collectors of anything are preserving a piece of history, I do not understand Blackbloods fury, unless.... he really is Blackblood! I am not really Tarantino!!