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15 Non-2000AD things.

Manhattan Projects
Revival
Shaolin Cowboy
Dredd Year One
Satellite Sam
Black Kiss II
Godzilla, Half Century War
X-men Legacy (can't believe I actually liked a superhero comic, fuck you Si Spurrier)
Crossed - Wish You were here (can't believe I actually liked a Crossed comic, fuck you Si Spurrier)
Half Past Danger
Prophet
Six-Gun Gorilla
Baltimore - The Infernal Train
Dept of Monsterology
Goddamm This War

Jim. Would there be any historical trends with the use of lower case lettering, like it being used by particular publishers or in a certain genre / age-orientated market of comics?

Is this the thread to report the IDW Judge Death art?

Holy fxxk. Can you all just shut up so that he dosent get fxxked off with working in comics again?

Notice no denial there folks...


See what happens when you cancel GRennie's travel plans....

Is it clear they are in trouble? Alternative revenue streams and 'save us' are two very different boats.

SHOULD BE!

Is there a connection between the arrival of issue two and the destruction of PJs own LCS whose roof has mysteriously collapsed overnight?

Where was Team Challenger on the night of Nov 6th? Hummmmm.....

I take it Steve Sampson is getting his own thread?

The main point of the thread was to highlight lifting of specific character and technical designs rather than more general photo reference

Eh? Can you explain that in context to the first post and differentiate it from the countless Steve Sampson swipes?

Well, I'll try... In the first post I put up some examples of designs (alien, spacecraft / sub, orbiting prison) directly lifted for use in various strips in the Prog.  This kind of things seems more interesting (to me, at least) than the use of photo-reference for random characters, which is presumably fairly common.  Steve Sampson might feature more than most in that respect, I know - but is it very interesting?  I called the thread Sci-Fi Swipe Files as I thought spotting alien and spacecraft / tech designs lifted from other sources might be a bit of fun.

Except the Austin, Bolland posts etc are just photo references. Glad to have been the straw that broke the camels back, as Mr Sampson was with my mega subscription back in the day.

Just read issue 1. What a great comic. Came across as a more all-ages thing than I antipicated but that's all good. Only shame was some of the darkness hiding PJs lines and the page en deck with the blue sky, blue sea looking a bit under-cooked. Nice colours in general and a great final page. Seems a much bigger bag of worms than 4 issues so I hope this baby flies....

Only problem is some bugger called 'PJHOLDEN' has scribbled all over the cover in silver pen. FFS!

I take it Steve Sampson is getting his own thread?

The main point of the thread was to highlight lifting of specific character and technical designs rather than more general photo reference

Eh? Can you explain that in context to the first post and differentiate it from the countless Steve Sampson swipes?

Comics readers tend to have really good design sense

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!

Priceless.

Jim

Well that was massively sneery. And in a post where I had just praised a comic you are associated with.

And I'd stick with the point, people who read comics over many years do get educated into better design sense than joe public, they tend to have a very strong visual sense and an interest in layout, design and colour choices and the mechanics of aesthetic appeal. That they may not spend a fortune on their appearance is an entirely different. Whenever a really nicely designed tshirt comes up people praise it, whenever a generic picture on the centre of the chest comes up people react based on whether they like that panel / character or not.

As for the 'popular appeal / niche' argument... All these tshirts are niche. A breakout design has more chance of cross over than does a generic panel which encounters the comics are for nerds barrier quicker.

I take it Steve Sampson is getting his own thread?

I really like pyes art and design there but the design of the T-shirt doesn't match the quality of the design on the artwork. Move the 'city-def' to the lapels or sleeves, take the central character and move him off centre (or even onto the back lower so he saluting people you've passed) makes 'I survived the DoC' a centre piece or a phrase over the chest'. Add a pocket.... All sorts of interesting choices could be done with that art but nope 'front and centre' it is..


The Anderson dress that got cancelled, the jock Dredd on the bottom left of the tshirt, the TUBBS gym and SUPERSURF tshirt a, even the Dredd with eagles on the sleeves (although the front badge was too large), the Zenith ltd - all great designs. The way-too-many Slaine tshirts, this one, last exit to nowhere one... Not so much. Comics readers tend to have really good design sense because they are exposed to a lot of really good interesting design (tonight I was marvelling at the logos to The Shaolin Cowboy & Department of Monsterology) and most tshirts just don't match up to that.


Just an opinion from the 'I'd buy more if I thought it looked better' camp. No offence to anyone who has bought and enjoyed their shirts nor to the people who make em.

Bog standard.

Pretty much just a variation on the Dredd badge / eagle on shoulder one FP have been selling. Much prefer it when a bit of flair wit and design, like the TUBBS GYM tshirt, gets used rather than 'plonk a picture / logo 4 square in the centre'.

Image solicited the TB anthology as per any usual comic.