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General / Re: When did 2000ad get good again.
« on: 04 July, 2019, 07:04:18 pm »
See I’d say 970 is still not great. Kev Walker’s painted stuff was always not great for me (and I love his later style on Dredd), Wireheads and Vector 13 weren’t great and I can’t recall that rogue at all save to say rogue never recovered from looking like it was in the same universe as Chronos Carnival.

Plus I hate that cover design - easily the worst in 2000ads History.

I can appreciate people saying The Pit is turning a corner but you wouldn't hand 970 to someone and say ‘start here’.

General / When did 2000ad get good again.
« on: 04 July, 2019, 11:38:40 am »
Reading the excellent prog slog that ended in the low 700s made me grimace that it ended around the time 2000ad got....hummm.... pretty poor. I stuck with the prog till the low 900s then bailed till around 1450. It struck me recently that the odd strip aside 2000ad has been pretty awesome since then (2005).

I’ve started a re-read from 1400 (Wagner / Cam Dredd (Drekk City). Caballistics Inc, Flint on ABC Warriors, Strontium Dog and Bec and Kawl) and it’s all (mostly) great stuff that stands up 15 years later. Even the megazine (still in the era of charley’s War / hell trekkers reprints) is excellent with Wagner / Weston Dredd (Six), Ranson Anderson, cursed earth Koburn, Simping detective and Black Siddha.

So the question is - given 2000ad definitely had a low period (you can argue when)... when did it get good again? Properly good. Four out of five strips if they were new next week you’d lap them up good?

Other Reviews / Re: TURBO JONES
« on: 01 July, 2019, 09:59:21 pm »
He’s actually like a monument to show-not-tell. Dear old monkey is desperately telling the younger audience what is going on ‘oh no we’re about to crash into the planet’ and Arsehole Jones is like ‘shut up, you’re a robot’ every.single.time.

It’s great.

Other Reviews / Re: TURBO JONES
« on: 01 July, 2019, 09:54:56 am »
Picked this up with the subs discount and what a great read it is too. Turbo himself is a bit of a rude dull twat but the art is great - some excellent aliens - and the rest of the cast seem far more interesting / fun (loner and kitten in particular).

One gripe would be the lack of artist identification - would have been nice to have given credits to each story even if just on the index. There are clearly more than a few artists involved and giving them recognition would have been appropriate and, frankly, informative.

But yeah it’s silly, retro but really enjoyable. Defo down for the next collection.

Prog / Re: Prog 2137 : Mind how you go...
« on: 28 June, 2019, 02:58:26 pm »
Comics 2019 - Male gaze is perfectly fine if it’s a female artist.

Prog / Re: Prog 2137 : Mind how you go...
« on: 24 June, 2019, 06:10:31 pm »
Ideally Ken is real and is reading this tearing his hair out   ;)

My vote's for Al.
If it's Neil I'll give you the money meself.

Ken certain does read this.

News / Re: Dredd Month in September
« on: 24 June, 2019, 05:53:42 pm »
The first collection of 13th Floor expressly states it will return with a second volume.

And hurrah for that.

IIRC 13th floor ran for quite a while in Eagle after the merge.  Can't fully remember how long for or how much of what has already been printed covers it.

If they only go for a TP on this again like they did with the Movieworld Dredd I'm not going to be a happy bunny!

I'm really struggling to get my head around Rebellion's thinking on what to do Premium and what not.  There doesn't seem to be any clear logic that I can see.   :-\

The first Rebellion volume covers all of the Scream! material and into the Eagle strip, and there's likely enough of the Eagle strips for another couple of volumes, if I remember the page counts right.

If the solicitation here is for a Thirteenth Floor comic from Adams/Stokes/Irving that reprints the two stories from the Scream!/Misty (or Misty/Scream! :) ) specials plus an extra tale or two that would make sense, but I'd be surprised if it was a trade-length collection of new material. It certainly doesn't look like a second reprint volume of the original series though, unless the solicitation text got completely mangled :)


...and as I was writing, broodblik hits on the most likely explanation :)

Prog / Re: Prog 2136 - Last Chance To Shine!
« on: 19 June, 2019, 09:49:40 pm »
2000ad is on fire atm.
The Meg has been storming it since Meg 400

Halcyon days my friends.

Prog / Re: Prog 2135 - Beware the woods...
« on: 17 June, 2019, 12:09:03 am »
I think it’s the rendering of Dredd himself and the tiny shoulder pad that’s off for me. Looking at the same artists turn on Anderson in Meg 400 it’s not the style or outfit re-design per-se (indeed quite like the tech looking boots). I mean nobody could be arguing that it’s not a very professional level of art or lack of style / ability etc.. just the choices that are made drawing Joe don’t click for me. Bit like that old Ron Turner Dredd.

Prog / Re: Prog 2135 - Beware the woods...
« on: 13 June, 2019, 06:01:41 pm »
Dredd - a no for me on several levels (the artists rendering of judges, the pay off line being highly a un-Wagner stance on Dredd / mechanismos). There is a nice idea there (the anti-robot guys being used as transference guinea pigs) that Wagner / Grant Dredd would have milked for gruesome comic effect but here it’s tossed away in a bland script.

Scarlett Traces is just sublime. A five star strip in terms of art and story every week.

Thistlebone - hell yes. Simon Davis draws the last 30 minutes of Kill List? I’m down for that.

Kingmaker - elf orc and Tolkien guff but still I likes it. Taken with its Brass Sun twist am well up for its return.

Prog / Re: Prog 2131 - The Ape of Good Hope
« on: 20 May, 2019, 10:25:00 am »
2000ad is blessed with so many artists who have a unique style and who are masters of it.

Whenever the yanks had their ‘artists don’t push the needle’ conversation last year I laughed... so much of their art is so terribly generic in style it’s no surprise (not to say they don’t have similar greats too). If 2000ad was similar I’m not sure I’d still be reading it but as long as Flint, Disraeli, Dom, Clint, Colin etc etc are producing the amazing work they do I’m all in,

Events / Re: Enniskillen Comic Con 2019
« on: 12 May, 2019, 12:29:21 pm »
Cosmic Comics was definitely the haul of the show - what a great product Hibernia has there. The hook-up with the Treasury of British Comics is going to produce some gems for sure. If you haven’t bought it yet you’re missing out on two unique 2000ad greats.

Goddard selling Savage pages for 30 quid seemed criminal. Picked up several. McMahon sketching for free even more insane. The Carlos stuff was very moving and his art great to see close up. Sad to hear he had agreed to come but...

Everyone there is just so genial and relaxed, it’s a lovely way to spend a day. Looking forward to next years.


Prog / Re: Prog 2130 - 2000ad Regened
« on: 07 May, 2019, 09:46:51 am »
The GF, who reads the prog every week too, said she would love to read more in the same style. Maybe it's time for a regular book aimed at the younger reader?

Darren,you humble bragger you.

Prog / Re: Prog 2126 - Earth under siege!
« on: 27 April, 2019, 11:46:29 am »
Good old mike Carroll.. calling the bad guys ‘the parliament’.

Was ‘occupying forces’ or ‘crown’ too on the nose?

Prog / Re: Prog 2125 - Brave New World?
« on: 27 April, 2019, 11:26:34 am »
Just getting round to this. Those last 3 / 4 Dredd pages are magnificent.

The last two panels avoiding the ‘quip’ ending even more so.


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