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Did they ever explain why Dredd doesn't have a fucking huge eagle burnt into his chest after that one-off?

My favourite bits of Chris Weston's stuff were always the weirdly sexual looking tanks - often with a chain gun or some sort of cannon positioned like it was a big old warcock. Didn't Marvel actually have to edit a lot of dick-like machineguns out of The Twelve?

Steve White back on Friday? Please?

Rogue MK. I had wound down about 3-5 years before I even got to look at a 2000ad and I wasn't taken with the franchise until Steve White's later stuff, so this is kind of taunting me - there was a bloody big push promised for Friday, but they canned him as soon as they moved on from all the continuity issues...

Wicked Uncle Warren has mad a statement on kids comics, declaring that there was only one answer and then locking the thread:

I grew up with 2000AD, in which young children learned to appreciate splatter, gunfire, fetish gear, madness, anarchy, women who didn't take any shit, horror, rebellion, satire and dinosaurs eating cowboys.

If your children do not like these things, then you need to shove them back up someone's womb until they are properly cooked.

(Also Asterix is pretty good for tweens.)

All other arguments are invalid.

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These are things I actually appreciate because of 2000ad...!

Aw, you're all too damn kind. Genuinely , that couldn't be a nicer welcome to the forums. Thanks.

(I wasn't fishing for compliments, honest!)

I'll give you one - "The Filth" was so nice to look at a bit of wee came out. Possibly. I do love that series more than most other Morrison stuff.

Don't know if this counts, but for me of the worst artists to work on Dredd was the colourist Alan Craddock. To be fair, it was early days for computer colouring, but man, this guy almost ruined a lot of otherwise quality Dredd material from that era (incuding America II and large swathes of The Pit) - the colour palette choices are downright baffling and maybe it's just me, but unless you're colouring your own linework, I think it's a bit disrespectful to 'improve' that of another artist by adding horrible and entirely unnecessary textures and rendering.

I know that Kev Walker freaked out after he saw Craddock's colouring on his Mercy Heights pages and refused to let anyone else colour his work for many years afterwards.

Feast your eyes on this monstrosity - believe or not, there's a Frank effing Quitely cover under there somewhere! Yuck!

He did the entire Rogue Trooper Action Special - it's really horrible.

Valentine never gets "destroyed by a bullet" - that was the Darkstar.

What issue did Di Grigori get it?

The problem with Judge Death is there's nothing about the character that's readily suggested by the concept of a future cop upholding the law in future municipal hell. He's a revenant with genocidal ambition (and post Black Lantern Corps, which was basically the same concept EXACTLY marketed globally by an American media juggernaut the sad fact is people will assume the Dark Judges are the rip-off) whereas Dredd's thematic nemeses are corruption, civil unrest and crime. If the leak is true they're intending to put a much-needed sci-fi spin on PSI division.

Death's powers, visage and resiliance could be imbued by more sci-fi means to work on film - mutation, viruses, nanotech. Deathworld is a bit too Mordor to sit alongside Blade Runner-style sci-fi on screen.

Rex Royd has the most potential - completely offbeat premise, fractured narrative to mirror the memory loss storyline, weird modern Doc Savage born via arse sex premise and enough decency not to patronise the shit out of me. It'll alienate EVERY Frankie Boyle fan who bought it for the sake of Frankie Boyle, but I'm interested to see where it goes.

The 2000ad reference seemed more respectful to me - it's a fact, the 2000ad readership is aging, for every accessible strip like Zombo there's something like Dante which requires 13 years of reading to appreciate and something like Dredd which has essentially been one massive saga since Mechanisimo redefined it as a political strip (arguably longer - modern Dredd probably starts with "America" as a narrative foundation, which was 20 years ago).

The overarching storyline in Shakara isn't much cop but I liked from the very start that it was always intended as a post-humanity story set in completely alien cultures. Some episodes seem to have an entire video game's worth of alien grunt concept art packed in. Always stunning.

Smith wrote that one on the moon with the Dredd Zombie - Darkside, wasn't it? Originally slated for the Meg but it broke down nicely into a long-running thriller.

John Smith has a brilliant handle on Dredd. I think he'd be a better heir than Ewing purely because he has more of a track record on "epic" storylines. Ewing is very good though.

Janus: PSI is Millar and Morrison doing Dredd's world right - some strong concepts, good focus on the brutality of the department vs the spaced-out PSI Judges.

Jamesedwards, have you by any chance got a goatee?  'Cos it's fairly clear you're from the Mirror Universe.  Like, rilly.



EDIT:  It's probably more likely that Evil Parallel Comic Fans are identifiable by their lack of goatees, and by their trim physiques.

Janus is an insufferable brat but the art is really solid and the storylines - psychically reconstituted child murder victim stalks her former friends and the one about the self-fulfilling Judge Angels from the future - were very nice "big idea" stories with quality "scratchy" horror art. I liked it better than "PSI Division are just like the normal Judges, Anderson sulks a bit then gets on with it". I think PSI Division are a fairly stupid part of Dredd's world (note how Wagner's toned them down dramatically in recent years and even had a good pop at offing Anderson) but if they're going to exist I'd swing more towards stories about future Judge Angels and horrifying ghosts and that. I did want Janus to die as a child because she annoyed me.

Grice's speeches and ramblings are total Grant Morrison, Janus and the Indo-Cit Judge are fair Morrison too (Janus: PSI is Millar and Morrison doing Dredd's world right - some strong concepts, good focus on the brutality of the department vs the spaced-out PSI Judges). At the end of the day it's too much like the Apocalypse War in 12 episodes with no politics. Dredd's a total bastard with some of his greatest one-liners, at least ("Negative, control. Dust pan and brush should do the trick") All totally stoopid, but it thrilled me as a kid.

There's one Mark Millar strip from about that time - Judge Tyrannosaur - that feels like perfectly competent "classic" Dredd, in part probably because of the Ron Smith art. He did a few good ones actually - the one about the memory thieves, A, B or C Warrior - nothing substantial but on par with post-Apocalypse War Wagner one-offs. And now that I think about it they all had Ron Smith art.