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I don't think anybody would say they'd like it to have been shut down but many people would say they wished they had listened about the bike and uniform. 

They couldn't change them even if they wanted to – the props were made. They weren't going to shut down production and re-design the things certain fans didn't like. Can't run an expensive production that way.

Ok but let's hope the makers of this series at least take the things some fans have been saying into consideration.  I think they've got the opportunity to please just about everyone with this.

The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.

That's debateable.  A lot of it is yes.   I think everyone was pleased it was gritty and not some watered down crap.   Where many people think it was a bit of a let down was said bike, uniform, lack of satire, not futuristic enough and the sparse Mega City.   

Again I like the film but I'd like the series to address all these issues. 

If the makers of Dredd listened to fans they would have shut down production shortly after the first bike and uniform images were released.

I don't think anybody would say they'd like it to have been shut down but many people would say they wished they had listened about the bike and uniform.   The Mezco toys Lawmaster is much more along the lines of how it should have looked.   

I couldn't think of anything worse than comics or films produced to appease the vocal fans.

Tell that to the makers of that awful Thunderbirds film (who ignored the fans and made Spy Kids instead)

Tell that to George Lucas who followed his own nose and produced the medicocre prequels aimed at 5 year olds instead of making something more like Empire Strikes Back which is a fan favourite.   

And of course Dredd was such a success in the cinema's wasn't it.    Nobody's saying that everything the fans say has to be taken into consideration or done or is always right........but ignore the fans at your peril.    Sometimes fans do make some good points believe it or not and everyone in this thread is a fan.

It isn't a good idea to listen to fans, at all. Ever.

I take it you're joking?

I would argue that it is the stallone uniform that looks very cheap and generally "a bit naff", the Dredd 2012 uniform looks like a real riot police/military/SWAT uniform, so much more relevant and convincing for a law enforcer in a future broken society.

I think they've both got their plus's and minus's.   

This is why Pat Mills was right when he said creators and editors should ignore what the fans think and just do what they think is best.

I think that's a bad idea.  Obviously they can't do everything the fans want but many fans do make some good points.   

For a start I'm not one to blow my own trumpet and I'm not for one minute saying nobody else has thought of it or that what I said influenced the decision but I said in the 2012 thread that maybe a new series or film should be titled Mega City One.   The best thing is to listen to themselves and the fans.

The comic uniform would just look daft if translated to the screen literally. Dredd would not be able to move. Why would we want to see a bunch of judges hapless ly lumbering around under the weight of their absurd knee pads and shoulder armour. Mad max does have absurdity in it, but it all works practically.

The 2012 dredd armour contains every element of the comic uniform, it's all there, but it's done with an excellent practical approach that, Imo, makes the uniform so much better. The mighty Jock worked on that, and that's good enough for me.

Obviously the uniform can't have the huge bulky shoulder pads etc he has in the comic but I still think they could do something more like the comic and still make it like a real uniform.

Again apart from the lack of a cross on the helmet, the shape of the helmet and the codpiece I thought the Stallone uniform was more along the lines of what the Dredd uniform should have been.

It was obvious they were trying to distance the 2012 film from the Stallone film but they went a bit too far imo.   I'm not totally knocking the Dredd uniform and it is a bit like the early comics but again I think it looks a bit cheap, bulky  (I really don't like the oversized neck ring) and slightly odd.

Maybe something like a cross between the Stallone and Urban uniform could work?

Stallone's uniform was completely impractical, and not like anything law enforcement would actually wear (except as dress uniform maybe). Urban' saws designed to be something you could actually fight in, and it looked cool.

Realism is overrated.

I don't mind the 2012 costume - but realism shouldn't be the be-all and end-all.

It can be a creative cul-de-sac, and you end up with everything looking SWAT if that's all you do.

I think there's room to get some more slight sculptural look to the pads without sacrificing practicality, get a bit of a distintive silhouette back.

More interested in the bike TBH, the costume would just be tinkering around the edges.

Interesting points.  I think getting the uniform and Lawmaster are both highly important.   I've actually seen people saying that the main thing that matters is getting the character right and those things are secondary.   Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  They're ALL equally important!

What you say about the distinctive silhouette is bang on though.   The 2012 Dredd uniform just didn't have that distinctive powerful looking Judge uniform silhouette.   There was no eagle jutting out and the uniform looked baggy with round shoulders.   I really hope they don't use the same uniforms from Dredd if Urban comes back.   

I think this should definitely look more like the comics.  They can make the uniform realistic without changing it to much like they did in Dredd.

Guessing of course, but if this has been given the go ahead on the strength of the loyal following of the 2012 Dredd movie, wouldn't it be a mistake to veer too far away from the look of that film?

The 2012 movie (for me) created a general aesthetic and city  that I actually now prefer to its comic counterpart. I don't think I want the city from 1995 Judge Dredd, I want 2012 Dredd.

The practical body armour was also spot on. And finally, if we are following on from the fan support of Dredd, Karl Urban would surely be the number 1 choice. I can only hope that it happens. I don't think any old actor will do just because it's only a chin and voice, that's seriously underplaying what karl urban brought to the role. He 100% nailed it.

Have to disagree there.  Although I liked Dredd the city just didn't capture the feel of the comic Mega City to me and I thought that the Stallone film actually did the city much better (even though the film wasn't exactly a great Dredd film).

Same with the uniform.   It was ok but could have been much better and I thought it looked a bit cheapo.   Dredds uniform should look as cool and expensive as possible.

I agree the City in Stallones Dredd was impressive..but strongly disagree about the Uniform..Urban's Judge uniform was bang on IMO..practical and combat based..exactly what you would expect a future lawman to wear on the streets

I'm all for making the uniform something that could be worn as a real uniform but I thought it was too different from the comic.  Look at this photo here..........


https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/10/15612444/judge-dredd-television-show-im-global-2000-ad


I think it looks a bit cheap and ugly.   I know there's been many an argument about the helmet and uniform in general but I just don't think it was very well done.   The helmet looks odd (the cross is right in front of his eyes plus too thick and it looks further odd without the lighter band underneath the eyes) and those rounded shoulder pads look just wrong to me.   

I'm not the biggest Stallone film fan but apart from the codpiece I thought the uniform was more authentic to the comics.   They had the eagle shoulder pad but Stallones arm could move freely underneath it as it had movable segments so it was like a real uniform too.   

Guessing of course, but if this has been given the go ahead on the strength of the loyal following of the 2012 Dredd movie, wouldn't it be a mistake to veer too far away from the look of that film?

The 2012 movie (for me) created a general aesthetic and city  that I actually now prefer to its comic counterpart. I don't think I want the city from 1995 Judge Dredd, I want 2012 Dredd.

The practical body armour was also spot on. And finally, if we are following on from the fan support of Dredd, Karl Urban would surely be the number 1 choice. I can only hope that it happens. I don't think any old actor will do just because it's only a chin and voice, that's seriously underplaying what karl urban brought to the role. He 100% nailed it.

Have to disagree there.  Although I liked Dredd the city just didn't capture the feel of the comic Mega City to me and I thought that the Stallone film actually did the city much better (even though the film wasn't exactly a great Dredd film).

Same with the uniform.   It was ok but could have been much better and I thought it looked a bit cheapo.   Dredds uniform should look as cool and expensive as possible.   

Here's what the Lawmaster should look like........


http://www.mwctoys.com/images2/review_lawmaster_14.jpg


I've got me one of dem and it's bewtiful.

The ad shows flying cars... which ultimately doesn't really mean anything as it could be completely different when it is broadcast. If they keep to that aesthetic though (i.e. movie style blocks, albeit not so spaced out, but the comic vehicles) that would not be a bad way to go.

I do like the big mushroom buildings, though.

If Mega City looks anything like that poster then that's a very good start.   I liked Dredd but the city to me just wasn't anywhere near as futuristic and crowded enough as it should be.

And of course the Lawmaster was another bone of contention.

But folks!   No more 1980s vans!    Futuristic vehicles, robots n all that stuff.

Just heard about this and sounds quite promising and exciting.   I remember suggesting in the Dredd thread why not call any next film etc Mega City One so it's great to see that title being used (not that I'm suggesting I influenced anything of course.........mind you...you never know ). 

I hope they plough plenty of money into this and use stories from the comics.