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Okay Scytheplays did their own adaptation, which (understandably) they don't want anyone else to use, but it still leaves me pretty much in the dark R.E. using another adaptation or working something out from the comic-script independently. If we did stage it, we'd be happy to pay for rights, we just want to know if theoretically we can, and if so, who to pay them to.

Why is what should possibly be one of the most exciting threads on the board have turned out to be one of the longest and most boring.

I dunno, maybe because, even in the aftermath of some much-anticipated and really rather cool imagery, some folk think the time is suddenly right to ignore the subject and instead comment on the thread itself?

Your comment annoys me, sir. Meanwhile, on-topic...this looks better than I had dared hope. The elements fit and even a passing tribute to the great Wulf Sternhammer demonstrates a heart-in-the-right-place factor which is worth it's weight in Stookie glands. Der stick could not be happier....matron.

...Christ. I hate the internet sometimes....

Hard to judge the 'tone' sometimes alright.

...This thread is eating itself and Grud knows what any external press bods would think if they lurked on here to get some info on what the official fans thought...

Are you suggesting we moderate all our speculation and opinions on the off-chance that external press may misinterpret them? What's left for us then?
We are not employed to market this film, and I honestly don't understand the point of being part of any discussion that can only be one-sided.

Up to now we've seen some unofficial shots of vehicles including the Lawmaster. These were not lit correctly with all the movie magic and so were bound to look weird. I have mentioned earlier that normal vehicles did appear in Dredd, as you will find in the early case files, big deal!

Now look, the fact that some standard and uninteresting vehicles can be spotted in the background of a few old progs does not mean that non-futuristic vehicles in a Dredd universe ceases to be an issue for readers of the comic. "It was in a prog once, and therefore it's good" defends nothing.

Wagner didn't like 'em and some people here don't like what they've seen of  'em: big deal!
So it's an issue; people talk about it. It's not a deal-breaker, it doesn't mean that we know how they will finally appear or that we're all not waiting for the film with baited breath.

The latest pic looks fantastic, the vehicles of this film will probably suit that vision way better than hover-pads or modified Land-Rovers ever would. But please don't suggest we only ever speak well of what we see and think on the off-chance a lazy journo might pick us up wrong;
That's just stifling folk.

Are you comparing Stallone's Judge Dredd and Prometheus? Risible.

Prometheus is a better film than Judge Dredd,- but not by much.

I reckon people in America, of a certain age, see the Stallone turd as simply one hilarious camp bit of old-skool nonsense with some cool visuals (city, robot, cyborg) thrown in for good measure: if you want to laugh at Stallone, and you have no notion of the character that it's pissing all over, I'm sure one can thoroughly enjoy it for the cheese-fest it is.

Except for Shneider, everbody's gotta hate Shneider.

The people of America being huge fans of "camp, old-school nonsense" and laughing at their action heroes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=732Spw0hGrU

I reckon people in America, of a certain age, see the Stallone turd as simply one hilarious camp bit of old-skool nonsense with some cool visuals (city, robot, cyborg) thrown in for good measure: if you want to laugh at Stallone, and you have no notion of the character that it's pissing all over, I'm sure one can thoroughly enjoy it for the cheese-fest it is.

Except for Shneider, everbody's gotta hate Shneider.

The voice of wisdom: that.

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I thought I'd ask which would be more upsetting for folk on the board here:

A: A piss-poor Dredd film that was nonetheless popular and would spawn sequels/toys/animated series e.t.c
or
B: An excellent Dredd film that nobody went to see ?

B! B!! B all the way!!!

Option B gives us a fans a movie we can enjoy, and something that will give a trickle of new fans for the indefinate future, certainly won't do any harm to the brand in the long run. Not so with A, which I consider the second worst that can happen....That's what happened with Robert E. Howard's Conan....That movie is deep, deep insult to the literary Conan, and it is deeply hated by a very large chunck of the Conan proper fans.

Sadly, for all its weakness as an adaptation, it worked as a standalone movie, and was loved by the public. As such, Milius and Ahnuld usurped the name of Conan, and every single Conan cartoon, film and comic (with the exception of the current Dark Horse comic) has owed more to the Milius film than the original Conan, and as such been total crap...

I hadn't thought of that but you are of course right, a 'successful-but-shite' film is a danger indeed.

....If I simply had to choose either A or B, I'd choose B, but I don't believe this Dredd is either of those absolutes but a little inbetween and to the left...

I'm hoping for a little to the right, but I reckon yours is the shrewder guess. Won't be long now before we'll see once and for all.

Lets get back to talking about Kate's assets ....

Nice tissets, too.

Bladerunner is always sighted and for good reason and MC1 could be a Bladerunner type environ ....but the unique elements for me are the distinct block shapes and the block footprint. The way the structures narrow toward the top makes a certain sense in that it would allow more light down into the canyons below. And for a city that seems so oppressively crowded the sheer scale of the blocks means there are often very wide open spaces between blocks. The deep shadows and the wide-open spaces create a deeply creepy isolation. I'm thinking of Mike Macmahon and Cam Kennedy here. Those are signature elements for me that make it unique...not so many boxes.

http://moreintelligentlife.com/story/frank-lloyd-wrights-war-boxes

Mega City One in my head is also like this.

[Dredd]

character we know as with the rest of the world
...character we know as Dreddwith the rest of the world...
no grief, not frothis quarter anyway
...no grief, not from this quarter anyway...

I'm sure you'll all be vocal when you're going through the 5 stages or grief when the film tanks in expectations.

Well look, I think most of us have expectations set at a half-way reasonable level: a lot of us know the story from the script, and even those that don't will hardly be expecting a sweeping epic. We know the budget is tight and we've already seen some less-than-stellar vehicles and art-design, and we've heard Wagner's quibbles and tweeted comments about the same.

I'd say all it has to do, ( to impress and delight me anyway), is to improve upon the Stallone film and share a little of the character we know as with the rest of the world.
I don't think these expectations are unrealistic, and if they are met then there will be no grief, not frothis quarter anyway,- and if exceeded? Why then we SHALL have a Christmas!

Incidentally, on the subject of grief, I thought I'd ask which would be more upsetting for folk on the board here:

A: A piss-poor Dredd film that was nonetheless popular and would spawn sequels/toys/animated series e.t.c
or
B: An excellent Dredd film that nobody went to see ?

I hate to say I told you so but I did this a while ago-homage to Fargo(the movie).

That is rather cool indeed.

Just saw it tonight. What I loved about Alien was the grumpy, bitchy crew were heroic but made sense as people and the monster/alien life-form made sense as a biological parasite (behaving much like many do in nature)-I mean it was a bit of a stretch that it grew so quickly, but not much and it wouldn't have worked as well with them fighting John Hurt's wee baby.

In this one, so much more stretching demanded of the viewer,without anything as exciting for payback. The people don't really make sense [spoiler] two scientists: one naively cocky about alien atmosphere and the other purely faith-based, and a tattooed 'grunt' geologist who resents...other scientists for no reason other than to recreate the 'us v them' crew dynamic of the first film[/spoiler] the aliens[spoiler]: (both types) [/spoiler]certainly don't [spoiler]: until the epilogue,- which must compete with Darth Vader's "Noooooooo!" for the dumbest round-up ever[/spoiler].

Probably not a lot you can do with a story that everybody already knows the end of, but Sheesh! Stay away from the big questions if you can't demonstrate even a basic understanding of what evolution is and how it works.