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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 16 November, 2019, 10:13:33 am »
From reading a lot of stuff written by learned colleagues, by reading of Labour’s plans is that they are unworkable, but I’m glad they kickstarted a conversation the UK’s not had at any meaningful levels since Thatcher’s days. And, remember, Thatcher fucked UK broadband. She tied BT’s hands and said the markets would sort it. They didn’t. Now we have some of the worst broadband provision of any remotely comparable nation.

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Books & Comics / Re: Bargains/deals thread (?)
« on: 15 November, 2019, 03:25:23 pm »
Mm. The combination of names, and Smurfette syndrome makes that strip feel out of place and out of touch, like Lord Snooty did when I used to read the comic in the 1980s. I just wish it was a bit fresher and more anarchic. Betty heads in that direction, but little else does. Bananaman, if anything, feels safer these days than it did in the Nutty. And then you read Bunny vs Monkey and wish all children’s comics could be that good.

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Books & Comics / Re: Bargains/deals thread (?)
« on: 15 November, 2019, 03:06:23 pm »
Mini-G currently gets both. I’d say that The Beano gets more general interest than The Phoenix, but there are specific strips within The Phoenix that she loves (not least anything that Jamie Smart does). I personally wish The Beano would shake up its writing a bit. It is very heavy on the word puns, and it all feels a bit formulaic.

Still, it’s interesting how it’s diversified very recently. I picked up that special edition box-set off eBay recently, and thumbed through the newest issue, which is only a few years old. Remove Minnie and it’s all boys. In the bundled bookazine, the (then?) latest editor noted that with the most recent redesign, they’d realised lots of girls were reading the comic (not overly surprising, given the dearth of extant titles), hence a desire to create more varied strips.

Personally, I think some of those are the best in the comic, notably Betty and the Yeti (heavily revamped) and Rubi. These days, some of the strips feel very odd, though, most glaringly the Bash Street Kids.

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Film Discussion / Re: The Addams Family
« on: 15 November, 2019, 12:23:23 pm »
I recall reading something about this a long while back. It was about designing for the medium, and using colours that would create the right type of contrast when converted to B+W.

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Prog / Re: Prog 2157 - Red Army!
« on: 14 November, 2019, 11:14:19 am »
So... was the thing that Hershey gave Dredd just information about where to find her granddaughter?
It was a request rather than a thing, wasn’t it?

As for the Prog, Dredd ended well, although could easily have gone on at least another four episodes. Brink remains one of the best things 2000 AD has done in the past decade. Defoe has lost me, and so will need a re-read during that magical time when I get a clone and have the time. Hope has grabbed me more than the previous run, which I now kind of wish I’d grabbed in the Hallowe’en sale. Deadworld… has kinda lost me too. I loved the set-up and initial run to this one, but I found it more intriguing as a messed up plague strip than what’s become an oddball elseworlds Dredd. Oh well. It’s still good, mind.

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Film & TV / Re: Your Movies of the Decade
« on: 14 November, 2019, 09:17:28 am »
Let Me In
I never watched that one, having heard not great comparisons with Let the Right One In. Did you watch both? (Edit: Having looked around, it seems the movies are basically identical, and so not watching Let Me In would be more down to redundancy than quality.)

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Rebellion unveils special hardcover edition of political comics classic featuring new scans of original artwork and Carlos Ezquerra variant cover

One of the defining political comics of the 1980s - Third World War - is back in a brand new hardcover edition from Rebellion Publishing.

Exploding from the pages of mature comics title Crisis in 1988, Third World War by Pat Mills and Carlos Ezquerra was a searing political satire on capitalism, commercialisation, imperialism, and exploitation that still rings as true today as it did in the '80s.

Using brand new scans of the original artwork supplied by the family of the late Carlos Ezquerra, this ground-breaking comic book classic is being collected in its entirety for the very first time.

This definitive collection will be available in paperback from all good book and comic book stores in January 2020. A special limited edition hardcover is only available from the Treasury of British Comics webshop.

Even in our post-9/11 world, Third World War continues to resonate - truly anti-establishment graphic novel dealing with ever-more prescient issues around capitalism, the power of corporations, and global politics, and unlike anything else published by the Treasury of British Comics imprint so far.

Eve is unemployed after leaving university and is immediately conscripted as a soldier working for a corporation and discovers just how South American countries are being exploited to create food needed to feed the increasing population for their profit under the guise of western paternalism.

Running in Crisis from 1988-1990, and including work by Angie Kincaid and Matt "D'Israeli" Brooker, this definitive edition highlights the stunning painted colour artwork of Ezquerra, who died last year, and reinforces his place as one of the masters of comic book art.


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Film & TV / Re: Your Movies of the Decade
« on: 13 November, 2019, 07:45:57 pm »
2010: Monsters
2011: Attack the Block
2012: Dredd
2013: Gravity
2014: The Lego Movie (a very good year, this one – hard to choose!)
2015: Ex Machina
2016: Arrival
2017: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
2018: The Death of Stalin (although very nearly Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse)
2019: we have a 5yo and so have seen bugger-all that came out this year

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General / Re: How do you read yours?
« on: 13 November, 2019, 01:21:15 pm »
It varies for me. Sometimes – mostly – I’ll read it straight through. Sometimes, if I’m particularly into a strip, I’ll skip to it first. Occasionally, I’ll not read the Prog for a while and then have to catch up. The Meg is more of a problem, because I’m finding it hard to keep track month to month. In part, that’s down to storytelling. Some strips right now just aren’t that memorable. But probably also I’m just losing track due to a million other things going on!

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Prog / Re: 2000 AD in Stages
« on: 12 November, 2019, 01:44:22 pm »
This has been one of my favourite threads on this board. Really great stuff. The only disappointment is when someone bumps the thread (like, er, I’m doing now) and it’s not a new entry!

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The must-read memoir of 2020 is the fascinating inside story of one of British comics’ biggest movers and shakers – King’s Reach: John Sanders’ Twenty-Five Years at the Top of Comics.
 
One of the key figures of British comics in the late 20th Century, John Sanders masterminded the output of Britain’s biggest comics publisher, IPC, over 25 years – launching more than 100 titles, selling millions of copies every week, battling censorship and industrial disputes, and coming up against one of the century’s most notorious crooked business tycoons!
 
For the first time, he now steps into the limelight to reveal his story and that of the medium that would go on to dominate global culture, even as the newsstands it relied upon declined.

King’s Reach: John Sanders’ Twenty-Five Years at the Top of Comics will be published by Rebellion Publishing in paperback on 9th July 2020.
 
From King’s Reach Tower in London, Sanders oversaw the launch of hugely popular titles like Tammy, Battle and the revolutionary 2000 AD, all while fighting corporate battles to expand the UK’s comics output, facing down the government and the media in censorship battles, and witnessing the effect of changing tastes on a decades-old industry.
 
At the head of an industry that, at its peak, sold 10 million comics per week, Sanders details how he strove to keep comics relevant to generation after generation and, with artists employed across the globe to service the voracious appetite of readers, he was in the hot seat for one of the biggest cultural shifts in living memory.
 
The story of British own-brand comics belongs almost exclusively to the twentieth century – the era in which they were born, flourished and died. The millions of children who read them were aware that despite their weekly publications being often derided by adults,   the stories were finely crafted, and the pictures were commercial art at its zenith.
 
Now, resurrected by serious adult readers and by academics, comics are recognised as being an important marginal note in the story of English literature.
 
“The story of British own-brand comics belongs almost exclusively to the twentieth century,” says Sanders. “The era in which they were born, flourished and died. The millions of children who read them were aware that despite their weekly publications being often derided by adults, the stories were finely crafted, and the pictures were commercial art at its zenith. Now, resurrected by serious adult readers and by academics, comics are recognised as being an important marginal note in the story of English literature.
 
“This is a book written for those grown-up comic fans. But I hope it will be also read and enjoyed by the millions of people whose dreams were enlivened, and whose youthful years were made enjoyable, by comic book heroes they still remember with affection.”


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General / Re: 2000AD Lego builds
« on: 08 November, 2019, 02:38:37 pm »
These almost come across like a Muppet Babies take on the ABC Warriors.

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For me, HCs are good for durability. Too many of my softbacks have warped.

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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 07 November, 2019, 07:50:47 pm »
That’s a shitty choice. If I were in that position, I’d go Sinn Fein through very gritted teeth, purely to keep out the DUP, and never let the Sinn Fein MP forget it if they were elected.

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I’m aware of how things are shifting on the newsstand, having been in publishing for nearly 20 years. However, my point was simply that what’s going on in Orbital isn’t comparable to a UK-based weekly. Perhaps things will shift beyond recognition in ten years, if the newsstand business dries up; I don’t know. But it is still a big chunk of sales of all publications I work with, even if there has been a move towards direct sales via subscription.

Personally, I would be cautious to suggest the Hachette model would be something 2000 AD could or should ape. We have no idea about the sales of those titles either. Also, the business model of 2000 AD is somewhat reliant on multiple-dip. So if you transform the Meg effectively into a set of graphic novels, you lose one revenue stream (book reprint); furthermore, the notion that hardbacks are what people want to see is hardly matched by the output from Rebellion itself. Brits, it seems, are more heavily wedded to softback trades than HCs (more’s the pity – I much prefer HC editions).

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