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Prog / Re: Prog 2183: Regened - Five knockout thrills!
« Last post by Leigh S on Today at 05:04:15 PM »
11 in Stranger Things is a good modern parallel to Dredd, no?
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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« Last post by Tjm86 on Today at 05:03:50 PM »
I’m trying VERY hard to be pragmatic with mini-IP and her school is fairly soft touch on this stuff. But even so, her head’s being filled full of Christian teachings as an ‘accurate thing that definitely happened’ rather than historically dubious retellings of stories that have barely more confirmed accuracy beyond common myths from anywhere else in history.


This is the bit that drives me completely insane, and this as one of the 'middle eastern sky god cultists', that the Bible is viewed as an accurate and detailed history.  No!

I mean, leaving aside the fact that there are sections that are openly declared as works of poetry, fiction or other literary forms, even the accuracy of the 'historical' sections is pretty patchy. 

[Okay, insanely patchy but please bear with me.  If I tried this on the Guardian website I would be stoned.  At least here you guys just pat me on the head, smile benignly and move the conversation on ...]

As for the old 'act of collective worship' in schools.  The guidelines and expectations are now so mind-boggling that it is a wonder that even lip service is paid to it.  Actually, outside of inspections it quite often isn't but that's another story.

Now it is supposed to be 'broadly but not exclusively Christian'  :o.  It is supposed to inspire 'awe and wonder'   :-*.  There is supposed to be deep and meaningful reflection  :-\.

To be honest, more often than not there is more concern with evidence that it is happening involving all sorts of bizarre and tortuous jobs for teachers or the more amenable members of a class.

I do remember upsetting one of our old heads suggesting that the daily collective act of worship would be fairly straightforward since we were always worshipping the school Rugby team.  He wasn't totally convinced.

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Prog / Re: Prog 2183: Regened - Five knockout thrills!
« Last post by Leigh S on Today at 05:03:26 PM »
It's interesting to look at marketing and focus groups - I think Harry Potter may have moved the window on what kids like towards liking what kids do to some degree?  That said, what cemented my love of Strontium Dog was starting reading when he was being an abused kid, so that's a bit telling.  Tordel's take on Dredd's own traumas sounds like very rich and kid enticing material - All these orphans/no parent types are big business!

I seem to  recall reading that when Doctor Who was prepping for return, the focus groups were damning about the idea of its return and the BBC really started to sweat it - turns out, sometimes people don;t know what they want until they get it.  And of course, unless you are a Super Forecaster Big Brain like our mate Dom, how can you know what will break the mould?  Until then, you only really have what can be gleaned from such groups to go on and the problem lies much deeper than simple analysis and number crunching might tell you. 

To quote myself in the Space Spinner episode wot I was on, sometimes there is a big hit and it's hard to learn the right lessons - Most people didnt like those 80s Alan Moore strips primarily because they were adult, they liked them because they were good.

So for me, the main thing to be is to be good - In that regard this Special is about standard for current 2K - some good, some OK, some not my thing with an occasional but thankfully rare  "what were they thinking?"





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Off Topic / Re: Day of Chaos 2: a.Covid-19 thread.
« Last post by TordelBack on Today at 04:56:29 PM »
There has to be some swift charlie action going on before that interview, surely?  Feck, when you make a chat with Kay Burley on Sky News look like hard-nosed investigative journalism you must know you've lost the thread entirely.  There was nothing in Thick Of It to prepare us for this.

I'm very conscious that the previously-bottomless slops tray of the Tory party has been drained into a half-pint glass to create the current cabinet, but is there really, truly, no-one else available other than these clowns? I used to wince with anticipated embarrassment when Irish politicians showed up on international TV, but even Ahern at his most hands-in-raincoat-pockets-looking-for-the-Paddy-Power-pencil or Cowen at his most hung-over-waiting-for-the-offy-to-open were never as outrageously disgraceful as what the UK is sending out to represent it now.
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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« Last post by JayzusB.Christ on Today at 04:51:59 PM »
Sorry, Funt, bit of a sweeping and unfair generalisation about Americans from me. Like Tordels says, the vast amount of Americans I've met are clever, open-minded and decent - I suppose the way news works is that we only hear about the bad guys (particularly the bad guy-in-chief).

I suppose what irks me is the arrogant side of national pride in general. Like when George W claimed that his enemies-du-jour 'hate us for our freedom' - I seriously doubt it was jealousy that drove the terrorist attacks.

No worries from me, JB - before I moved here (from Scotland) I was far less able to see what a mixed bag this place is. And I only live in one small corner, and it's a left-leaning corner. Plus, like you, I hate the flag-waving bullshit and the idea that it's "the best country in the world". Posturing tribalism.
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Cheers Funt, glad I didn't cause offence.  I do find the ceremony you describe fairly chilling - I'd heard a while ago it's a relatively recent introduction into schools but had shut the whole thing out of my mind.

I suppose, like Tordelback describes, I grew up when schools were riddled with Christian Brothers (surely the most wretched social club there is) and nuns, and the bullshit rituals feel normal when you don't have a lens through which to view their weirdness .

Though very few locals were impressed when a nun advised a teenage girl I knew not to talk to a Protestant schoolmate (a close friend of the first girl, and obviously in a minority in that school).

My primary school principal, by the way, was an unmarried ex-Christian Brother and a violent psychopath - most teachers hadn't quite adjusted to the corporal punishment ban, but this prick smashed heads off radiators for talking in class. I heard he was eventually given a thorough hiding by local parents and I'm afraid, for all my pacifist tendencies, I was pleased to hear it.
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Prog / Re: 2000 AD in Stages
« Last post by TordelBack on Today at 04:49:14 PM »
Mmmm, Childhood's End is an interesting one. Despite it being the type of setup I hate (alien origins for humanity), and the whole space exploration thing rather at odds with the kooky galactic adventures we've already seen in the Dreddverse, I still really like this.  Walker's epic art is amazing (even Manderson herself), the character stuff is good and it all works really well.

Other than that, the Armitage flashback stories and the continuing run of fantastic covers there isn't a lot I enjoyed in this period.
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Update: Megazines 409-420 now reduced to £25!!
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Classifieds / Re: Judge Dredd & The Worlds of 2000 AD Board Game Bundle
« Last post by Juka08 on Today at 04:43:25 PM »
Update: Have reduced price to £95.
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Update: Any offers are appreciated and willing to negotiate. If no offers by the Sunday 07/06/2020 i'll just be posting on Ebay.

Thanks for any interest.
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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« Last post by TordelBack on Today at 04:12:46 PM »
Head scratching stuff!  In my ignorance I thought the Pledge of Allegiance had stopped some time back, precisely because it had the whole God bit and public schools were aggressively secular (shows what getting your educational info from The Simpsons does).

We too endured a daily prayer fest in school in RoI, as I imagine did every kid in Ireland my age be they Catholic, Protestant, Jew or Dissenter, but I've been lucky enough to send my kids to Educate Together schools (no religious instruction, except in the sense of learning about all religions) and so the very concept has faded into some sort of dusty Tom Brown's Schooldays archive in my noggin. At least here a daily act of worship is imposed by religious patrons (the Churches still own and subvent most of the schools) and bootlicking parents, not mandated by the state. 

However, the reality of funding a school which draws solely from State coffers, outside of the supports of a parish or minority religion, has proved sobering, as has the grassroots opposition to their siting. My son is gong into the third year of a new Educate Together secondary school, and they still haven't even got a temporary site yet (the norm would be portacabins in a carpark), they're still squatting in the as-yet unfilled spare classrooms of two other new startup schools of a more traditonal bent. Makes you wonder, as it is no doubt intended to do, whether we should have just (as we say here) taken the soup. (The soup in this instance being bunsen burners).

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