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The Joker
« on: 04 April, 2019, 02:20:06 pm »
No comments on this yet?

I think the new trailer looks amazing - something different (for this particular genre).
Joaquin Phoenix was a superb choice for this role.

Could be this years 'Logan'.

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Re: The Joker
« Reply #1 on: 04 April, 2019, 06:12:04 pm »
Haven't seen the trailer, but this Onion headline made me laugh

https://www.theonion.com/new-joker-trailer-introduces-iconic-villain-to-same-g-1833778036

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Re: The Joker
« Reply #2 on: 04 April, 2019, 11:50:42 pm »
not excited yet, hopefully further trailers will be better for me

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Re: The Joker
« Reply #3 on: 05 April, 2019, 08:58:58 am »
There is almost a 70s Taxi Driver vibe to The Joker Trailer. A seemingly put upon ordinary Gotham resident starts becoming increasingly deranged due to his grim circumstances. That was the gist of Alan Moore's 'The Killing Joke,' that one man exposed to a series of devastating personal experiences would go mad. This Movie looks bleak, and it's not copying the Marvel films but appears to be going for a much darker vision of Gotham and America. I read Martin Scorsese is an Executive Producer on the project and it sure shows. Intriguing.
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Re: The Joker
« Reply #4 on: 05 April, 2019, 10:07:13 am »
It looks interesting but will they be able to have the film without a Batman? I hope so and I hope this indicates that DC aren't trying to keep up with Marvel anymore and instead just make good films.

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Re: The Joker
« Reply #5 on: 05 April, 2019, 10:55:57 am »
It looks interesting, for sure, but by god (American?) script writers need to find some word other than "freak".

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Re: The Joker
« Reply #6 on: 05 April, 2019, 01:02:14 pm »
Getting some real urban violence vibes from this akin to Death Wish, which certainly is an interesting and fresh take on the backstory. I'll bite.

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Re: The Joker
« Reply #7 on: 05 April, 2019, 01:45:02 pm »
Didn't Scorcese make The King Of Comedy already?

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Re: The Joker
« Reply #8 on: 05 April, 2019, 02:17:35 pm »
Didn't Scorcese make The King Of Comedy already?

Isn't there a glimpse and you'll miss it cameo in the trailer from that character too? Shared universe confirmed.

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Re: The Joker
« Reply #9 on: 05 April, 2019, 03:22:54 pm »
De Niro has said that it's not supposed to be the same character years later, but there is a thematic nod to his character in KoC
https://www.nme.com/news/film/robert-deniro-addresses-connection-joker-character-king-comedy-2471336

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Re: The Joker
« Reply #10 on: 08 April, 2019, 03:35:48 pm »
I'm not sure if the Joker should have a standard backstory - I prefer the multiple choice origin story of The Killing Joke and Heath Ledger's Joker.

But it does look like a cool film and I'm looking forward to it.
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Re: The Joker
« Reply #11 on: 09 April, 2019, 01:17:53 pm »
Well, that save me the effort of watching the film.
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Re: The Joker
« Reply #12 on: 09 April, 2019, 01:25:49 pm »
That was the gist of Alan Moore's 'The Killing Joke,' that one man exposed to a series of devastating personal experiences would go mad.

More accurately, in Killing Joke it was the Joker's proposition that anyone exposed to a series of devastating personal experiences would go mad, that the entire world is just "one bad day" away from being the Joker. Crucially, what Killing Joke has and this movie appears not to have is the counterpoint of Jim Gordon, who disproves the Joker's contention by not going mad.

I'm never going to argue that KJ is a good book, but I'd suggest basing a movie on it and stripping out that rather crucial element leaves you with the proposition that the modern world is horrible, violent and senseless and that madness and reciprocal violence are an understandable response to it.

I don't think that's helpful.
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Re: The Joker
« Reply #13 on: 09 April, 2019, 05:08:07 pm »
That was the gist of Alan Moore's 'The Killing Joke,' that one man exposed to a series of devastating personal experiences would go mad.

More accurately, in Killing Joke it was the Joker's proposition that anyone exposed to a series of devastating personal experiences would go mad, that the entire world is just "one bad day" away from being the Joker. Crucially, what Killing Joke has and this movie appears not to have is the counterpoint of Jim Gordon, who disproves the Joker's contention by not going mad.

I'm never going to argue that KJ is a good book, but I'd suggest basing a movie on it and stripping out that rather crucial element leaves you with the proposition that the modern world is horrible, violent and senseless and that madness and reciprocal violence are an understandable response to it.

I don't think that's helpful.

That's a good point, although I notice there's a very brief shot of a cop on a train with a gun drawn and my initial thought was it was going to be Gordon? Marc Maron is in the casting too. If ever there was a physical living embodiment of Gordon walking the Earth, it could be him. Anyway.
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Re: The Joker
« Reply #14 on: 09 April, 2019, 06:23:35 pm »
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Marc Maron is in the casting too. If ever there was a physical living embodiment of Gordon walking the Earth, it could be him. Anyway.

I'd never thought of this before, but hell yes.