Firefly (and Serenity)...

[Mardroid]

There are too many characters from the off and the programme doesn't do a good enough job of giving them all chance to shine. On top of that, they're all varying degrees of nice. Even Jayne, whose supposed to come across as the bad egg, is far too cuddly.

Oh, I dunno. Both the Captain and Zoe have a rather hard edge to their characters. They're mostly good certainly but not al that nice.  Even Shepherd book has a dark side. Great all round three dimensional characters I'd say.

And Jayne... he actually [spoiler]betrayed the Tams at one point.[/spoiler]

I also found it interesting that certain villainous characters weren't entirely bad. (Badger for example.) Or if they were they were very interesting well rounded characters. (The bounty hunter Jubal Early from Objects In Space, for example.)

[Devons Daddy]

Firefly
I loved it, watched it three times in it entire brillant box set brillance.

Shepard book. that has to be the biggest character back story never told!

as for Nathan. the man can do little wrong in my eyes, firefly, singalong blog, Bones.
guys brillant at chooosing good roles and making good entertainment.

[Mike Carroll]

...
as for Nathan. the man can do little wrong in my eyes, firefly, singalong blog, Bones.
...

You mean Castle, right? But I agree - the man's a legend! Plus he's a proper SF geek: he really knows his stuff!

-- Mike

[Bat King]

He ought to be in the Dredd sequel that there will be cos the film will be good...

[Goaty]

You mean Castle, right? But I agree - the man's a legend! Plus he's a proper SF geek: he really knows his stuff!

-- Mike

Yes as here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vr-HgRQS_c

[HdE]

Shepard book. that has to be the biggest character back story never told!

Ahh, but it WAS told!

Book's back-story is fleshed out somewhat in the Serenity graphic novel 'The Shepherd's Tale'.

Not a bad book, but it suffers from trying to be too clever for it's own good in the way the story unfolds backwards.

I'd caution squeamish readers that it contains eyeball-related violence, though. [Gag!]

[Mardroid]

Not a bad book, but it suffers from trying to be too clever for it's own good in the way the story unfolds backwards.

It's interesting as, judging from a few reviews I've read, that system of storytelling seems to have turned a lot of readers off the book. Which is a shame because I think the story was pretty good. Plenty of twists and turns.

The method of story telling didn't particularly bother me. In fact it seemed important for certain twists to work, since it leads to big reveals concerning his identity, but the fact it bothered other people makes me wonder if another structure should have been used.

[Bat King]

I think I need to check out said GN (comic, it's a comic...)

[Mardroid]

I think I need to check out said GN (comic, it's a comic...)

I think both terms apply in this case as it is very much a complete story, rather than just a collection. (Apparently it was a 3 issue mini-series originally although I got the hardback collection.)

That being said, I tend to associate novels as longer, but that's a whole other debate...

[Bat King]

I have a running joke at work between two colleagues and myself.  One was heard to claim 'I don't read comics' to other colleagues.  He tends to buy three or four GNs a week...

So me and 2nd colleague constantly tell him 'it's a comic'

And one of his all time favourites is Watchmen... Alan Moore says 'It's a comic'.

But yeah...  Firefly is good... shouldn't have been cancelled n I ought to check out that there comic book about Book

[HdE]

Guys - seriously - if the notion of checking out 'The Shepherd's tale' appeals to you, grab 'Those Left Behind' and 'Better Days' as well.

Those Left Behind works as a bridge between the end of the series and the movie, and it caprtures the feel of the show and the voices of the characters extremely well. Better Days, in my opinion, isn't as good, but there's enough in there to make it a solid, entertaining read. There's a hardcover which includes several short stories and one-shots, which are all great.

Sadly, the Powers That Be doubt the potential for further Firefly / Serenity comics. Crying shame, as comics would be a superb medium for the story to be fleshed out in, in my humble opinion.

[Mardroid]

There's this which came available for Free Comic book day. I've yet to read it so I don't really know what it's about (and obviously it'll be short). Interesting to see it coupled with a Han Solo Star-Wars comic, too!

Yeah, I've read 'Those Left Behind' and 'Better Days'. They're pretty good, although I think I agree that the first was better. (The second did have nice robot designs...)

[HdE]

What aggravates me a little is that the second book actually contained a few tiny plot points that hinted that MAYBE Firefly was going to get some sort of continuation in comic book form. Check it out - there are a few little things seeded there.

But nope. Looks like that ship has sailed. And that's an enormous shame.

[Bat King]

"Tharg, Mr Whedon. Mr Whedion, Tharg."

Sorted.