Alien 5

[Mercenary]

I hope they still use clever filming, acting and direction and not just hordes of CGI aliens.

[VampiraJen]

In Scotts original vision, hinted at in the re-releaseed 'directors cut', the scene shows Dalas in a cocoon in mid transformation into an egg

i just recently read an early script where ripley comes across dallas after he's been taken, and it explains why there was 'no blood, no dallas'.

I have to admit, I always thought that the only reason the Alien in the first one was so hard was they had a crummy flamethrower etc. Nothing more.


plus also, marines are fifty years in the future and if there's one thing you can guarentee it that the governmeny...err...i mean, Company, will plow money into weapons....


i've been thinking about that alien ship from alien.  the one where they find all the eggs.  my understanding is that that is an alien ship which has been attacked by the aliens.  thoes eggs are all that is left of the crew.  and what about the alien with the exploded chest.  what happened to that creature.  was it just knocking about, biding it's time.  or was that the queen, who then laid all those eggs?


also, i saw a documentary last year on c4 about the design of the alien, and how it's second mouth/toungue with teeth is life a penis, death is rape, and it would fuck you before it killed you.  since then i haven't been able to watch the bit where, over the intercomm, you listen to lamberts muffled screams and aliens weird noises, without wondering what its actually doing to her.....

[JamieB]

*Everything* in HR Giger's art is either a man- or lady-part. Dude is properly mental.

J-Bo-1

[Art]

What, even the chairs in that bar in switzerland? Scary.

[VampiraJen]

plus also, on crappy weapons, they weren't a military group, they were a mining vehical

[Buddy]

++ and what about the alien with the exploded chest. what happened to that creature. was it just knocking about, biding it's time. or was that the queen, who then laid all those eggs? ++

You have to take into account that the space jockey's body had been there so long it had fosilised, we're talking thousands of years. The creature to come from that chest must have been massive.

++ Who laid all the eggs ++  NO ONE. There is no queen at that stage. The queen is only a concept of James Cameron. Originally they reproduced as I described before, the eggs are the remains of the crew of the ship.

As for the aliens taking on the frm of the host, I thinks that' a great idea. It makes them even more adaptable to the environment they are born into.


Mr D. all that info about the alien life cycle comes from too many years of pickeling my brain  sci-fi nonsense.

And the fact that they are asexual makes then even more dangerous, their numbers are only limited to the amount of host bodies available to them. Think, in a major population centre, say London, they would spread like a disease, one alien 'infects' one human, you then have two aliens that can 'infect' two humans, then 4, then 8, then 16 etc... soon the entire country would be covered. or something like that anyway.

In Crappy Camerons version you need only kill the queen. No more aliens will be produced.

[Bico]

What did everyone make of the AVP movie, then?  Technically, IT'S Alien 5.

How did those aliens gestate and grow to maturity in about 30 minutes?  Why did the producers think the Predator/Alien hybrid at the end was such a twist?  Didn't they remember the bit in the film where the Predator snapped the baby Alien's neck WITH HIS THUMB?  I somehow doubt that fully matured Predators would worry much about that little nipper running around the ship.  They'd probably just step on it or something.
Liked the Predator/Queen fight at the end, but it was too little, too late.  And they expect you to believe Alien Queens can drown, now?  BAH!

[Noah Angel]

"The creature to come from that chest (space jockey's) must have been massive."

The Space Jockey was originally intended to be human size until Ridley Scott decided it would look more impressive scaled up, so he dressed children (his own included) in smaller versions of the crews spacesuits to create the illusion of scale (It's only noticable once you know, and even then not that much).

It's a good idea, but the downside to this is that it does make it look like the jockey has "birthed" a gigantic alien. Although in retrospect of the Alien sequels and them developing their hosts characteristics, this can now be easily explained away.

"Who laid all the eggs?"

That is never fully explained, but they were only *stored* on the ship, not laid. That's why they are arranged in neat rows, and more importantly contained behind a force field.

"Originally they reproduced as I described before, the eggs are the remains of the crew of the ship."

According to press relase from the time of the film (which has been expanded on ever since), the Alien was a bio-weapon developed/enhanced by the Space Jockeys race. The eggs were in a containment/stasis field, which was broken by Kane when he fell, thus triggering the face-hugger.

The Space Jockey had fallen foul of one of the eggs himself, leading him to land the ship and trigger the warning beacon (Bio-Hazard). This was later intercepted by the Nostromo and assumed to be a distress beacon.

[ESCUBRIA]

Eh, actually the "Alien3" script about the medieval planet of monks was not written by William Gibson -his script was worse-, it was written by Vincent Ward who made "the Navigator" and is probably the best written "Alien" story.

[Quirkafleeg]

Boy... do you understand the concept of spoilers... guess that's one film I don't have to bother seeing now

[Generally Contrary]

...and considering AvP isn't even out here.

[Bico]

Sorry, Gary, my bad.

In my defence, though, it's one film you don't need to see, period.  And the word 'spoiler' suggests some kind of surprise is in the offing.  Not a chance - it's pretty much movie-making by the numbers, which in and of itself shouldn't be a problem if the movie itself is at least entertaining.  But there's a criminal waste of Lance Henrikson, the Predators are complete pussies, and we only get ONE proper Alien/Predator fight in the whole film.
It IS still better than Alien Resurrection, though.

[Mangamax]

Bit of good news re: AVP. Looks like it now won't be the dreaded 12A over here, but a bit better 15.

[Dudley]

That'd be a second spoiler right there, boy!

Some of us might want to make thdecision to go and see this film of or own free will, y'know!

[Will I. Cooling]

Well I'm going to see AVP come what may...

(I really should've learnt my lesson from Day after Tomorrow and King Arthur)

Will