anti islam cartoons required

[Dudley]

...cont.

What does the Koran, the holy book of Islam, say on the issue?

There is no specific, or explicit ban on images of Allah or the Prophet Muhammad - be they carved, painted or drawn.

However, chapter 42, verse 11 of the Koran does say: "[Allah is] the originator of the heavens and the earth... [there is] nothing like a likeness of Him."

This is taken by Muslims to mean that Allah cannot be captured in an image by human hand, such is his beauty and grandeur. To attempt such a thing is seen as an insult to Allah.

The same is believed to apply to Muhammad.

Chapter 21, verses 52-54 of the Koran read: "[Abraham] said to his father and his people: 'What are these images to whose worship you cleave?' They said: 'We found our fathers worshipping them.' He said: 'Certainly you have been, you and your fathers, in manifest error.'"

From this arises the Muslim belief that images can give rise to idolatry - that is to say an image, rather than the divine being it symbolises, can become the object of worship and veneration.

What does Islamic tradition say on the matter?

Islamic tradition or Hadith, the stories of the words and actions of Muhammad and his Companions, explicitly prohibits images of Allah, Muhammad and all the major prophets of the Christian and Jewish traditions.

More widely, Islamic tradition has discouraged the figurative depiction of living creatures, especially human beings. Islamic art has therefore tended to be abstract or decorative.

Shia Islamic tradition is far less strict on this ban. Reproductions of images of the Prophet, mainly produced in the 7th Century in Persian, can be found.

Why is the insult so deeply felt by some Muslims?

Of course, there is the prohibition on images of Muhammad.

But one cartoon, showing the Prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with a burning fuse, extends the caricature of Muslims as terrorists to Muhammad.

In this image, Muslims see a depiction of Islam, its prophet and Muslims in general as terrorists.

This will certainly play into a widespread perception among Muslims across the world that many in the West harbour a hostility towards - or fear of - Islam and Muslims.

[judge dreddd]

mass rally

ooo, this is not me, someone else is doing this, i think its getting out of hand, i dont like mass demos

just letters to the times, thats more my style

Link: http://www40.brinkster.com/freebritain/" target="_blank">oops its gone mad rally

[Mike Carroll]

> Culture clashes of this kind are not new.

They're certainly not new! However, I'm surprised that the BBC News Website cites Salman Rushdie as an example instead of choosing a much more famous blasphemer. A man who actually was executed because he spoke out against the oppressive religious dogma of the time. His name was, of course, Jesus Christ.

I'm also important to remember that in modern times the concept of religious hatred is not solely confined to "Muslims versus everyone else." I was raised as a Catholic in Ireland, and we were taught (in school and in church) that all non-Catholics were Hell-bound. Not non-Christians, mind you: non-Catholics. Especially Protestants! Oh, those heretics would be sent to the deepest, hottest fires of Hell for not believing in exactly the same things that we believed in! In secondary school we had a religion teacher who was particularly enthusiastic about this subject, yet was completely unable to specify exactly what the differences were between Catholicism and Protestantism (twenty-five years on, I'm still not sure of the differences).

I?ll stop there before I go off on a rant against religious zealots (because such a rant would also make me a religious zealot), but I will say something that seems to have been missed regarding those ?anti-Muslim? cartoons: they?re not funny. Even if they weren?t insulting, they still wouldn?t be funny.

-- Mike

[judge dreddd]

ooo,apparently the muslims are publishing anti danish,jewish cartoons now

thats out of order, they are widening the attack,

'this thing is going to get out of control and we will be lucky to live through it ! - hunt for red october

unsure if its really fair to lock up this extremist muslim for speaking his mind,too,to be honest

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4689556.stm" target="_blank">locked up for talking

[longmanshort]

yet was completely unable to specify exactly what the differences were between Catholicism and Protestantism (twenty-five years on, I'm still not sure of the differences).

Hats.

[El Spurioso]

Pope-mobile envy.

[judge dreddd]

"Pope-mobile envy. " pmsl

[Funt Solo]

Grud grant me mystical powers so that I can miniaturise all the BNP supporters in the world and have them live the rest of their natural lives on a dog turd, in Milton Keynes.

[judge dreddd]

'now then, be honest, did you draw those cartoons ?'http://img.coxnewsweb.com/C/03/12/74/image_674123.jpg">

[judge dreddd]

"Grud grant me mystical powers so that I can miniaturise all the BNP supporters in the world and have them live the rest of their natural lives on a dog turd, in Milton Keynes."

yea,i would like to do that too but as we live in a democracy, its kind of , un democratic me thinks

the BNP are silly folk, everyone knows we are the children of norman and roman invaders and the real english are in wales

[Mudcrab]

"but for once they should be congratulated on being sensible"

Agreed, I find it quite amazing that none of them did. Even if just to say, this is what's causing all the fuss.

Time for Big Dave to return! Or not...

[Lobo Baggins]

ooo,apparently the muslims are publishing anti danish,jewish cartoons now

thats out of order

Why? That's pretty much exactly what you were asking for in your first post...

[judge dreddd]

anti danish cartoons ok because a dane did a cartoon against muhammed is a tit for tat thing, what have the jews got to do with this ?

i have changed my mind anyway, best to say nothing, and let the world carry on as it is

shuffle along there now, nothing to see, type situation

[Art]

Sadly the cartoons involved are a bit arse. "Ooh, lets give Mohamed a bomb shaped turban - SYMBOLISM!".

[Art]

Meanwhile the main affect iof this seems to be increase the net amount of stupidity in the world. The first post in this thread very much included.