TPO: The Kim Raymond Enigma

[hippynumber1]

I thought I saw them on-line, so you're not alone there!

[Bubba Zebill]

I thought I saw them on-line, so you're not alone there!

Could it be on these forums somewhere?

[judgerufian]

I thought I saw them on-line, so you're not alone there!

I suspect a Megazine article as various google searches turned up....nought.

[hippynumber1]

There was a special feature in Prog 610 that showed the pages side-by-side (apparently)!

[SIP]

Prog 610 sounds spot on, it was definitely around that time.

[JOE SOAP]

[Jim_Campbell]

Nice one, Joe!

I have to say, the re-drawn pages (the lettered ones) are, IMO, noticeably better than the originals, despite being re-drawn from memory* and in significantly less time...!

Cheers

Jim

*And, I assume, the original thumbnails/roughs.

[TordelBack]

Each to his own but I think very highly of his work on Dredd, for example the image of Dredd and Giant... Dillon is just superb, I really think he's one of the greats because his characters appear to be thinking, not every artist can do that, and far from easy with visors:)

That came out very wrong - I think Dillon's work on Dredd (and Hap Hazard and much of his Rogue) is excellent, I just found his later (herculean) work on Hellblazer, Preacher, Punisher etc. to be a bit... samey.  Very few artists could even hope to deliver what he did, ream after ream of crisp, distinctive storytelling, but the style just doesn't wow me in the way his early 2000AD work did.  It is definitely a matter of personal taste rather than a criticism.  I know that's the eternal trade-off for economy and a sustainable wage, but his evolution was not in a direction I cared for.

And that CotD lost episode comparison is nothing less than mind-blowing.

[Bubba Zebill]

That came out very wrong - I think Dillon's work on Dredd (and Hap Hazard and much of his Rogue) is excellent, I just found his later (herculean) work on Hellblazer, Preacher, Punisher etc. to be a bit... samey. 

Ah, I see!...ok...I moved away from the UK long ago and to a place that had no comics tradition, lost touch with it all for a decade or so. So I kind of missed what Dillon et al went on to do. I've long been aware of Hellblazer, Preacher but never really looked at them. So my knowledge of his work is just Pressbutton and Dredd really.

[Steven Sterlacchini]

Thanks for posting that Joe. Very interesting.

[Spikes]

Yes, great to see those again. And yes, rather strangely the re-drawn pages are simply miles better.

I do have the prog somewhere, but haven't seen these in a while. Prog 610 it is, then.

[SIP]

I wonder who owns the original pages.....both sets of pages are great but he certainly tightened the angles and compositions on the second attempt.

[Magnetica]

For me, Ron joined Bolland and McMahon as a triumvirate of the definitive Dredd artists.

They way I have always looked at it there are four definitive Dredd artists: Bolland, McMahon, Ron Smith and Ezquerra.

[TordelBack]

For me, Ron joined Bolland and McMahon as a triumvirate of the definitive Dredd artists.

They way I have always looked at it there are four definitive Dredd artists: Bolland, McMahon, Ron Smith and Ezquerra.

Add Cam as No. 5 and you're on.

Although there's a strong case to be made for 'the moderns', Flint and MacNeil.

[Fungus]

For me, Ron joined Bolland and McMahon as a triumvirate of the definitive Dredd artists.

They way I have always looked at it there are four definitive Dredd artists: Bolland, McMahon, Ron Smith and Ezquerra.

Add Cam as No. 5 and you're on.

Although there's a strong case to be made for 'the moderns', Flint and MacNeil.

Your use of 'triumvirate' is telling, I think. An article in the first Dredd annual (perhaps second?) mentioned the triumvirate of Dredd artists (Smith/Bolland/McMahon). A wee cadet as I was at the time, had to look this up. Ezquerra only returned to Dredd for the Apocalypse War, of course. Later.

My proggage is missing from about '95 for about 17 years, so can't comment on the big picture. But would be interesting to see Dredd split into eras with associated 'key artists'. This kind of thing has probably already been done (and here).