2000ad in comics britannia.

[opaque]

It was good, especially seeing and hearing Carlos but I really didn't like the reading out of any of the strips, that really sucked.

Would be nice to have a proper 2000ad documentary though wouldn't it. We could do things like have a proper look at peoples art collection, behind the scenes of artists working, that sort of thing.

[Eric Plumrose]

Dozed off during Factory: From Joy Division to . . . and woke up to this lazy shite. Unless I've been misinformed by last night's edition, Judge Dredd is a fascist cop created by Alan Grant and Carloz Esquerra; Kevin O'Neill drew 'Who Killed Pug Ugly?'; and the signficance of Viz is on a par with 2000 AD.

Thank fuck I dozed off again before Charles Shaar Murray showed up.

[Pete Wells]

Yeah I'd love a proper 2000ad documentary too but won't hold my breath!

As for the show itself, as everyone has said, far, far too much Viz in terms of time and kudos given to it. Hell, I enjoy Viz as much as the next man but I think the show went way over the top here.

Also, I get really fed up of how much focus is given to 70's Dredd. It's so outdated now and bears very little resemblance to Dredd of today. To get the whole Dredd ethos across I'd much rather have seen excerpts from America 1 or the Terror storyline, not the camp, cringeworthy exposition of Judge Fucking Whitey or the Cursed Earth again! I know the program was showing Dredd of the time but I wish they'd have shown something a little more up to date too...

The thing that niggled me the most though (and this really is geeky) was the terrible chroma-keying! Half of the interviewees heads were missing in many of the segments, I found it really off putting!

[Jim_Campbell]

"and woke up to this lazy shite"

Yeah. Very disappointing. Moore - as ever - was immensely watchable, but I found the programme as a whole thoroughly irritating and packed in before the end.

A golden opportunity terribly wasted.

Cheers

Jim

[Tanky]

Y'know I don't say this very often but...

Stuff tooth, 5 minutes, 5 F@CKING MINUTES on Deadline?! I tuned in for this?! No Hewlett, completely innacurate (Camden my arse, Brighton was were it was at), derived from the rave scene?! We all hated car alarm music! Uurrrghh!
Saddest thing - that was the show I was supposed to be on and couldn't make because of a crappy old job I had. It's enough to make you want to destroy things :(

Ok, I'm done now. Otherwise, some nice toothy bits but I'm gonna join the 'too much Viz' chorus.

Now. Me and the tank are of to visit the BBC.

[Peter Wolf]

  There is a certain sort of self satisfied smugness with that Viz creator donald or mcdonald or whatever his name is who was interviewed during the programme.I just find him irritating. So if he ever reads this ,just for the record i think he is a complete T W A T .Viz doesnt have a messageboard on its website either.

 Visit their website and stop to read the hilarious "Letterbocks" entries.

[pauljholden]

It was easily the most disappointing thing for me too. And I like Alan Moore, but couldn't him reading watchmen be replaced by something else? Watching that documentary I came away thinking Viz appeared either before or at the same time as 2000AD. Not only that, but it looked like there were only three comics (and a couple of war comics) after the 70s. Surely there were hundreds of Viz knock-offs that could've gotten a mention rather than sid the sexist.

Oh I dunno, maybe I'm disappointed cus this was the one I was really looking forward to.

- pj

[COMMANDO FORCES]

You are not alone, we are all disappointed in this episode!

[Funt Solo]

::"derived from the rave scene?! We all hated car alarm music!"

I loved the rave scene at the time (although I like to think I was trancing out to something better than car alarm music - even though I was standing in the car park, dancing along to a car alarm) but - yes - Deadline had sweet fuck all to do with the dance scene of the time.  It was all that indie shite that was in deadline.  Used to really piss me off that I had to leaf through dull bits about indie on my way from Tank Girl to Wired World.

[W. R. Logan]

>Why no john wagner?

john rarely does interviews, he was asked, he declined.

[pauljholden]

I was buying deadline for the Philip Bond and Tank Girl stuff, they were suffused with references that I could never understand ('I wonder what R.E.M. is?', I remember thinking while looking at one panel).

I was actually credited in a John McCrea script once - a bit of fluff story (four pages about Carla Allison running down stairs), and is, to my knowledge my first professional credit.

- pj

[johnnystress]

I remember that Carla story well!  


There was a bit of a dance music element in Deadline though, Brett Ewins was in the acid house band The Mercy Giants. I won their 12" in a Deadline competition.


I mainly remember it featuring the UK indie stuff like Carter USM, Cud, Neds Atomic Dustbin

I still have never heard The Sensless Things.. how did I manage that?


I remember being impressed when Fugazi were on the cover but I had long given up on it by that stage

[pauljholden]

The story of that story:

I was in John's house attempting to draw comics (well, he was drawing comics, I was watching Kate Bush videos) and he was saying he couldn't think of a Carla Allison story, I suggested that the whole point of Carla Allison's stories is that they were about John playing with his art rather than being about the stories, so, it wouldn't be unreasonable to have a four page story of her literally running down some stairs (if it was drawn prettily). John added the more exciting will-she/won't-she slip on the banana peel sub-plot (and for those that are now in suspense but unlikely to see the story in question: she didn't).

I can only apologise.

- pj

[johnnystress]

I seem to recall John having a conversation with my brother about this story and I think he said he really liked it, or at least enjoyed doing it! Deadline was great for artists letting loose and trying stuff out.


I've said it before but I would like to see a Hugo Tate collection.

[Al_Ewing]

This must be what hardcore Beano fans were feeling two weeks ago. Fun stuff, but being so close to the source material spoiled things for me. Two points spring out:

1) Anything is funny if you say it in Alan Moore's Rorshach voice.

2) Blah blah blah FOUR LEGS GOOD POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BAD etc etc etc -- is nobody else bored of bloody political incorrectness? It's so dull and the people who claim to be 'politically incorrect' are all a bunch of incredibly boring tossers. Let's throw off this yawnsome yoke of snores! I'm sick of all these bloody lager-slurping, Nuts-reading elitists telling me how to think! Piss off, Frank Skinner, and take that bloody horrible gap-toothed face of yours with you.