Watchmen update...

[Bico]

John Byrne's problem isn't one of missing the point, it's that he's professionally jealous and his increasingly more bizarre and contradictory justifications are like a rather dull version of a career car-crash.  Moore attracts a lot of flak from certain thin-skinned pros that reads suspiciously like plain old bitterness and envy, and Byrne is chief among them, in my opinion.

[Floyd-the-k]

You're right about his views on Watchmen, Bico. I was talking about his explanation for why the immensely enjoyable 'Incredibles' was actually a bad movie
  I noticed that Byrne disaproved of Gaiman too. Are there any more successful than Byrne comics people he doesn't disaprove of?

[Jim_Campbell]

"I noticed that Byrne disaproved of Gaiman too. Are there any more successful than Byrne comics people he doesn't disaprove of"

He likes Frank Miller. Apparently.

Cheers!

Jim

[I, Cosh]

He likes Frank Miller.

!! I thought he hated all that grim 'n' gritty, "stealing the magic from our childhood" business?

[Jim_Campbell]

"I thought he hated all that grim 'n' gritty, "stealing the magic from our childhood" business?"

Yes, but apparently Frank is allowed to do all the stuff that Byrne completely hates because he's a mate of John's.

There's a thread I can't link because it's dropped off the main page called "Definitive Versions" in which Byrne trots out every argument that was unsuccessfully used in defence of Moore's Swamp Thing and Morrison's Doom Patrol, and presents it as a new and valid defence of Miller's reinvention of Daredevil.

It's actually quite funny.

Cheers

Jim

[Matt Timson]

He does.  Except when Miller does it.

[Matt Timson]

That will be this one.  And yes, comedy gold:

Link: http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22433" target="_blank">Jump through those hoops, JB!

[I, Cosh]

HA! Nothing like a bit of festive Byrne to fortify you for a hard day's Christmas shopping.

[Funt Solo]

Byrne on Byrne: "...there are undeniably certain writers ... who have put an indelible stamp upon particular characters. My own work on FANTASTIC FOUR..."

The ego has landed.

[Eric Plumrose]

>> The ego has landed.

And he's once more insisting that he's to blame for the whole psycho-superhero craze that swept the '80s.

Even for something he detests so vehemently, Byrne still feels the need to take credit for something of cultural significance in the genre.

[Eric Plumrose]

Or something.

[Adrian Bamforth]

December 21, 2007
Dave Gibbons visits the set - part 2 of 2
On the movie backlot, like a sailor on shore leave, I gawp in wonder at a New York City that never really was. Once a Canadian lumber yard, it's become a complex of American city streets.

At the corner, a Treasure Island store promises a bounty of pulp thrills; down the block, the Gunga Diner beckons, fully fitted out in chrome and purple leather and, over there, the Rumrunner sign looms luridly. Even the austere facade of the Institute For Extraspatial Studies can't spoil the gaudy fun.

On an upper floor, I spot the windows of the Judomaster Martial Arts Studio. Iâ??m stopped in my tracks. Judomaster? Detail piles on dizzying detail.

Rain's falling hard now and I'm led inside, through a grubby little hovel crammed with dressmaking dummies, past the huge halls of Karnak, into Dan Dreiberg's homely brownstone and down to where the Owl Ship sits. I clamber aboard in giddy delight.

The rest of the visit kaleidoscopes crazily by: I watch footage of Rorschach pulling Nite Owl off a bloodied Knot Top; I flip through an issue of the Black Freighter; on a laptop, I see raw CGI blocking for the Vietnam sequence; I hold a smiley face pin splattered with what looks like real human bean juice; sitting in my own personal director's chair, I sign dozens of books and posters for cast and crew...

Finally, tired but happy, arms around my new buddies, costumed and otherwise, it's my turn to smile for the camera.

A month later, I'm smiling still.

-Dave Gibbons
December 2007

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[monty--]

*gakkh*

I've just clicked on this thread! They are actually FILMING Watchmen?!! I wonder how it'll convert to movie...

I can't really imagine a sex scene between two superheroes all kitted out, but I'll try not to get over excited..