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Tim Burton's Sweeney Todd

Started by wrly_bird, 04 December, 2007, 11:52:42 AM

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the shutdown man

I'm looking forward to this because it's a Tim Burton film, but I'm not big on musicals, so I'm a little hesitant. The bits with Depp singing just don't look quite right.
You're at the precipice Tony, of an enormous crossroads.

Peter Wolf


 It does look good and i like the historical setting and atmosphere of it but i could have done without the musical parts as i dont like Musicals or Panto so i think it has spoilt it a little bit .
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Ignatzmonster

Will, without a doubt, go to this. Worried whether Depp or Helen Boneher-Carter (as me Bro calls her) have the pipes for this, but otherwise looks good.

People who don't like musicals always say it's because no one breaks out in song in real life. Bah, that's just selective failure of suspension of disbelief. Monsters do not exist, people do no cast spells successfully (looking at you Morrison), and anyone on a costumed crusade of vengence is going to be fatally shot within the first week, but the same people don't bat an eye at this.

the shutdown man

"People who don't like musicals always say it's because no one breaks out in song in real life."

Ummmm.....not really. Personally it's because I find most of them cringeworthy.
You're at the precipice Tony, of an enormous crossroads.

Ignatzmonster

Fair enough. The Guy who wrote the music on this one's name is Steven Sondheim, you can trust him.

Mardroid

I used to dislike musicals. I'm still not really into many of the old ones, but I find some of the more modern ones quite entertaining. Good example, the music in the Blues Brothers film was about the best part of the film for me. (I'm using the word 'modern' relatively speaking here.) The colourful remake of the Little Shop of Horrors, very silly and entertaining.

I also liked it when the serial killer and the doctors in Kingdom Hospital suddenly broke out into song. What made it even more amusing was it never happened ever again in the rest of the series, i.e. it's not actually a musical. They just put a musical number in just for the hell of it (although it was likely to show the killer's distorted view of the world I imagine.)

davidbishop

This film got a rave review in Variety today, and Variety is not easily impressed. It rates Depp and Bonham-Carter's pipes as fit for purpose. WAsn't sure about this one myself, but now more enthused.

Peter Wolf

 

  If the musical bits are few and far between i wont mind much really and its rated R so its an adult film.I half want to see it just for the settings as its Tim Burton.That skyline of London at the end of the trailer is amazing.

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Mardroid

Jonathan Ross mentioned it briefly at the end of this episode of Film 2007 and he reckoned it was good too. Not that I agree with all his views, it is just one view after all, but it's nice to hear another opinion.

wrly_bird

Actually saw this the other day. UK reviews have been embargoed by Warner Brothers, but suffice it to say I agree with Variety. Don't be put off by the fact that it's a musical. Burton's third musical in fact, following Nightmare Before Christmas and The Corpse Bride...

Adrian Bamforth

I have a love/hate relationship with musicals: When they're good they're very very good, when they're bad they're Annie. The Sound Of Music has so much to say on so many levels which it wouldn't be able to say as well without the music. I'd love more musicals to be made especially if they were anything like the Buffy musical episode Once More With Feeling - the fact that people start singing is for me somewhat the point. I'm more worried about the casual way Johnny Depp is cast in anything: He's an entertaining character actor but rarely lets his mask slip so you can feel what he's feeling inside, which is entirely what musicals are about.

Dark Jimbo

While I'm pretty stoked about this, I have to admit that I'll always like Sweeney's original String of Pearls incarnation best; an unapolegetic, sociopathic killer out for what he can get. No motive, no pity, no rhyme, reason or excuse. He's just a murdering bastard, and as such remains infintely more frightening than all the later attempts to humanise him or 'explain' his murderous tendancies.


Is this film based on the old stage musical, does anyone know, or an entirely new creation?
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Adrian Bamforth

It's Steven Sondheim's music from the stage show.

Ignatzmonster

While I'm pretty stoked about this, I have to **admit that I'll always like Sweeney's original String of Pearls incarnation best; an unapolegetic, sociopathic killer out for what he can get. No motive, no pity, no rhyme, reason or excuse. He's just a murdering bastard, and as such remains infintely more frightening than all the later attempts to humanise him or 'explain' his murderous tendancies.**

See now THAT is a reason not to see a movie IMO. On the bad side DJ it does give Sweeney a motivation of vengence. On the good side he kills enough innocents that his actions cease to be forgivible. Check out the music, its pretty good. Been around, I think, since the early eighties. You probably could find a disc at your library. But mind you, you have to listen to it front to back and not skip around listening for the good bits.