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Started by ukdane, 15 January, 2008, 02:51:09 PM

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Dandontdare

I wasn't impressed by One More Day at the time, seemed like a cheap trick, but in hindsight, it was necessary for the character - a publicly known spiderman just didn't seem to work somehow. And at least it wasn't in isolation - there's a time travelling Fantastic Four/spiderman crossover story set afterwards when they revisit some primitives who have built a statue of them to celebrate their first visit - the FF realise they must have known (and forgotten) his identity because spiderman is unmasked in the statue, which leads to some awkward questions about trust.

JamesC

Quote from: Smith on 05 April, 2017, 01:41:29 PM
Yeah,taken as whole is terribly broad definition.Combined Delano-Ennis run is some of the best comics ever.Warren Ellis also had a great(but sadly too short) run.Azzarelo did an okay job.But you also had Paul Jenkins who managed to write 50 issues without actually contributing anything.Dear Grud,there are stereotypes,and then there are Rich the Punk and Slobodan(Funny foreigner/Serbian war criminal).

Fair enough, but I think it still works as an example of a comic that can run long term with an ever changing creative team to a monthly schedule and still offer high-quality entertainment - all without the main character ever feeling 'played-out'.

JamesC

I've enjoyed what I've read of Dan Slot's Spider-Man. Superior is well worth checking out.
i don't find the Christophe Yost stuff anywhere near as good though.

Smith

Yes,but that kinda brings up the main difference;Hellblazer had something current Marvel doesn't-capable editors.But obviously,somebody at Disney is happy with Alonsos work,so hes still here...
I mean,this is the guy who's selling the story about people regretting going to Image.After losing pretty much every A-list writer to Image.

Magnetica

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So are there complete collected editions of Abnett's Guardians of the Galaxy?

All I have to go on is Wikipedia and it's not clear to me which ones I need to get. e.g. Is Annihilation part of it?

jacob g

Quote from: Magnetica on 05 April, 2017, 04:48:08 PM
So are there complete collected editions of Abnett's Guardians of the Galaxy?

All I have to go on is Wikipedia and it's not clear to me which ones I need to get. e.g. Is Annihilation part of it?

During Annihilation Abnett only wrote Nova mini, he was more involved in Annihilation Conquest but Starlord miniseries that actually kickstarts GOTG is written by Giffen. TBH reading only GOTG material is kinda pointless, they're part of bigger story and best option is... read everything collected in series of omnibuses, from Annihilation to War of Kings Aftermath (or to find some TPB replacements since Annihilation Omni is OOP).

Whole cosmic saga started in Annihalion is good read, ofcourse there are also some awful stories in it, but GOTG and Nova (also Abnett and Lanning) works better as a part of whole cosmic narrative.
margaritas ante porcos

Tjm86

Quote from: JamesC on 05 April, 2017, 03:33:42 PM
I've enjoyed what I've read of Dan Slot's Spider-Man. Superior is well worth checking out.
i don't find the Christophe Yost stuff anywhere near as good though.

Superior was well worth it and a nice twist.  The AmSpid reboot started out reasonably well and SpiderVerse was an enjoyable tale but since then it seems to have lost it a bit.  Peter Parker the corporate jet setter just doesn't sit right.

Pricing probably doesn't help either so daft decisions to go bi-monthly without having the quality to back it up really doesn't do them any favours.  Digital also seems to have pretty much killed the back issue market along with the TPB schedule so you have to wonder if it is worth picking them up each month any more.  Marvel seem to be finding about as many ways to shoot themselves in the foot as the Tories do over Brexit ("little bit of politics.").

Magnetica

Quote from: jacob g on 05 April, 2017, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: Magnetica on 05 April, 2017, 04:48:08 PM
So are there complete collected editions of Abnett's Guardians of the Galaxy?

All I have to go on is Wikipedia and it's not clear to me which ones I need to get. e.g. Is Annihilation part of it?

During Annihilation Abnett only wrote Nova mini, he was more involved in Annihilation Conquest but Starlord miniseries that actually kickstarts GOTG is written by Giffen. TBH reading only GOTG material is kinda pointless, they're part of bigger story and best option is... read everything collected in series of omnibuses, from Annihilation to War of Kings Aftermath (or to find some TPB replacements since Annihilation Omni is OOP).

Whole cosmic saga started in Annihalion is good read, ofcourse there are also some awful stories in it, but GOTG and Nova (also Abnett and Lanning) works better as a part of whole cosmic narrative.

Oh dear that is way more complex than I imagined. I haven't heard of the cosmic saga before.

I guess it is this sort of thing that puts me off Marvel and DC -basically I haven't got a clue where to start. So I thought "let's just go with a writer I really like, such as Dan Abnett".

It is even more frustrating when you compare to 2000AD where I like to think I have a reasonable grasp on what's what.

Smith

Here is the reading order,hope it helps.
https://i.imgur.com/N7OXfyI.jpg
Its really worth it.

Magnetica

Thanks that should definitely help.

Magnetica

Wow the physical books are very expensive

£72 on Amazon for Annihilation Book 1!!!

But only £4.27 for Kindle.

So ...you're sure this is worth it?

Smith

It wouldnt be expensive if it wasnt good,right? :)

Magnetica

LOL.

If they are all that price (I haven't checked) that's over 2 grand, so I'll pass. Or at least wait until my reading list is more manageable and get them digitally. But that would involve getting a decent tablet to read them on. Oh well back to Nikolai Dante and the Mega Collection for me (so there is an upside :D )

JamesC

There's a good chance that some of this material will be reprinted around the GOTG 2 film release.

Smith

Well,its good reading.Get it if you can.If you cant,put it on the list.