New Dredd Movie, Whats Happening to it??

[JOE SOAP]

It always should of been Ridley Scott (even Danny Cannon thought so). Alternatively, Tony Scott or maybe even a Terry Gilliam version could of been interesting. Nolan's great at tension though, as anyone who's seen Insomnia should agree.

Ridley ain't right for it either -his style is too vacant, like a painterly George Lucas- besides his filmmaking skills back then in terms of narrative were very undeveloped so I doubt it would have worked. Danny Cannon basically became a watered down, poor man's Scott, distilling all the the empty aspects of Scott's filmmaking and not progressing the style with content.


You'd need someone of the technical skill level of FIncher, Del Toro or Jackson to pull it off but with a keen sense of character like P.T. Anderson.

[JOE SOAP]

A release of the fabled Directors Cut of Judge Dredd wouldn't go amiss either-maybe in time for its 15th anniversary in 2010.

just a few more shots of clones that look like chewing gum, I won't be waiting with bated breath for that.

[dweezil2]

A Fincher Dredd movie would be good(though I'd say his style of filmaking is hugely indebted to Ridley Scott). Paul Verhoeven would be another obvious choice, for his comic book sensibility and he pretty much directed a Dredd movie with Robocop. A P.T Anderson version I can't really envisage.
James Cameron could also have been a contender, before he began resting on his laurels and making cynical popcorn fodder.

[dweezil2]

Also regarding excised scenes in the Dredd movie. I'm sure I read that there was a good 30 minutes of footage cut from the movie and it certainly wasn't all clone footage either. There's even a scene featuring Rico glimpsed in the making of documentary, included on the old Widescreen video.

[JOE SOAP]

A Fincher Dredd movie would be good(though I'd say his style of filmaking is hugely indebted to Ridley Scott).

He has a lot more substance though and the similarities are mor surface than anything else.

Paul Verhoeven would be another obvious choice, for his comic book sensibility and he pretty much directed a Dredd movie with Robocop. A P.T Anderson version I can't really envisage.

I didn't say P.T. Anderson should make a Dredd film, I said but that his understanding of character is what would be needed.

James Cameron could also have been a contender, before he began resting on his laurels and making cynical popcorn fodder.

James Cameron has always made popcorn fodder, he's no different than when he made Pirahna and Terminator.

[dweezil2]

A Fincher Dredd movie would be good(though I'd say his style of filmaking is hugely indebted to Ridley Scott).

He has a lot more substance though and the similarities are mor surface than anything else.

Paul Verhoeven would be another obvious choice, for his comic book sensibility and he pretty much directed a Dredd movie with Robocop. A P.T Anderson version I can't really envisage.

I didn't say P.T. Anderson should make a Dredd film, I said but that his understanding of character is what would be needed.

James Cameron could also have been a contender, before he began resting on his laurels and making cynical popcorn fodder.

James Cameron has always made popcorn fodder, he's no different than when he made Pirahna and Terminator.

I totally disagree with your appraisal of Cameron. There just is no comparison with his highly un-commercial, at the time,  and groundbreaking movie The Terminator(a fact born out by how hard it was to secure finance for the picture) and pretty much all of his output post The Abyss-the nadir being the soporific Titanic.
His early output had more in common with exploitation flicks like Bronx Warriors and the films of Roger Corman and George Miller, with their guerrilla style of filmaking, urban grunge aesthetic(in the case of Miller) and vein of dark humour than anything seen in his later work.
It may of been popcorn fodder, but at least it was intelligent popcorn fodder.

[dweezil2]

Also Dredd is an action movie character and the world he inhabits, as written, carries an undercurrent of satirical social commentary. A Magnolia style character study is the last thing we need, in my opinion.

[TheEdge]

should go adult animation, get judge death and co in there.

[JOE SOAP]

Also Dredd is an action movie character and the world he inhabits, as written, carries an undercurrent of satirical social commentary. A Magnolia style character study is the last thing we need, in my opinion.

I never mentioned Magnolia. I was talking about characterisation and handling characters, Magnolia is a heavy drama, Boogie Nights a black comedy and Hard EIght a film Noir. As I've already said I didn't say P.T Andeson should make a Dredd film as you suggest. I said someone with understanding of good character like P.T. Anderson should -ala John Wagner in the comic- it's as much an aspect of the style in Dredd's world as action is, and one of the errors of the first Dredd movie is the lack of character. If you'd paid any attention to what I'd said in my original post you'd have seen I suggested someone with the technical ability of FIncher and the character sense of Anderson -whose movies are satirical social commentary too, (Boogie Nights) instead of picking on one thing you don't agree with and twisting it.

As for James Cameron, no thanks, he's mostly about technique and always has been, even with Terminator. A young John Carpenter would even be preferable.

[dweezil2]

James Cameron co-wrote The Terminator, so I'd suggest he knows a thing or two about plot and chracterisation, as well as direction.
Also I understood that you weren't suggesting P.T Anderson should direct a Dredd movie, I was mearly voicing an opinion that I didn't think he was suitable for the writing job and nothing in his previous work suggests that he would be in my opinion-at least some of the other examples of writers/directors mentioned have some experience in the Sci-Fi genre.
John Carpenter in his hey day though-oh, yes!

But if we're talking fantasy, wild card suggestions. What do you think Abel Ferrara would make of the gig?

[JOE SOAP]

But if we're talking fantasy, wild card suggestions. What do you think Abel Ferrara would make of the gig?

Dredd would end up blind, naked and crucified by Judge Death in the Cursed Earth with his Lawgiver up his arse wanking furiously -may appeal to some.

[TordelBack]

Dredd would end up blind, naked and crucified by Judge Death in the Cursed Earth with his Lawgiver up his arse wanking furiously -may appeal to some.

Would Death have some sort of shield by any chance?

[JOE SOAP]

Dredd would end up blind, naked and crucified by Judge Death in the Cursed Earth with his Lawgiver up his arse wanking furiously -may appeal to some.

Would Death have some sort of shield by any chance?

one made of latex, condomy material.

[Roger Godpleton]

I was thinking about Dredd movies today, and it occured to me that Block Mania would be the ideal basis for the story (at least in the first flick). By this I mean *just* Block Mania and no Apocalypse War. Any thoughts?

[JOE SOAP]

I was thinking about Dredd movies today, and it occured to me that Block Mania would be the ideal basis for the story (at least in the first flick). By this I mean *just* Block Mania and no Apocalypse War. Any thoughts?

Interesting but it would have to be more than block mania as it wouldn't be enough of an idea to sustain a whole film.