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Re: GARTH ENNIS PLANES and BOYS
« Reply #210 on: 09 April, 2012, 02:01:56 pm »
No love for latest issue of The Boys? All I can say is fucking hell!

Yeah, it was one hell of an issue, wasn't it?

I'm looking forward to and dreading the end of this series equally - I think it'll be a pretty good conclusion, but man I'll miss it in my monthly reading when it's over.

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« Reply #211 on: 09 April, 2012, 03:07:44 pm »
No love for latest issue of The Boys? All I can say is fucking hell!

I agree, what an ending! Even about Black Noir  :o

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« Reply #212 on: 09 April, 2012, 04:54:12 pm »
No love for latest issue of The Boys? All I can say is fucking hell!

I agree, what an ending! Even about Black Noir  :o

Yeah, that was one I didn't see coming.

Any thoughts/theories on where the last story arc is going to go now? I must admit, I'm completely baffled - but looking forward to finding out!

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« Reply #213 on: 09 April, 2012, 05:33:00 pm »
Totally brilliant stuff, a very, very fine twist.  Hats off to Ennis, The Boys is the series that completely changed my mind about him as a writer, and here it really, truly delivers.

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« Reply #214 on: 09 April, 2012, 05:34:21 pm »
Didn't want to mention it until I'd had a chance to read the full story. It's certainly messed around with the way I thought things would play out! Who's even left to sort out now? The Vought guys and Vic? Are The Boys themselves now unwanted supes who need to be taken care of?
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« Reply #215 on: 09 April, 2012, 05:39:58 pm »
Didn't want to mention it until I'd had a chance to read the full story. It's certainly messed around with the way I thought things would play out! Who's even left to sort out now? The Vought guys and Vic? Are The Boys themselves now unwanted supes who need to be taken care of?

The interview Ennis did with Comic Heroes said something about the final arc clearing up problems The Boys themselves had created, or something along those lines, didn't it? Sounds intriguing, but still can't work out quite what it means!

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« Reply #216 on: 12 April, 2012, 11:05:21 am »
The Black Noir reveal was a real shocker to me too and adds brilliant new twist to the Homelander's descent into madness.
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« Reply #217 on: 12 April, 2012, 11:29:09 am »
The Black Noir reveal was a real shocker to me too and adds brilliant new twist to the Homelander's descent into madness.

Yeah - it even induces a bit of sympathy for The Homelander, which I never thought was possible.

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« Reply #218 on: 12 April, 2012, 07:21:30 pm »
Brilliant stuff... apart from the Frenchman having two arms on the cover!
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« Reply #219 on: 19 April, 2012, 02:50:18 am »
Has anyone read Ennis' new Crossed series Badlands?

Brilliant stuff altogether. Reminded me a bit of his best work on Punisher MAX. Incredibly bleak yet humanistic (is that even a word!?) at the same time. He can really pour on that atmosphere of despair, can't he?  :P

Crossed as a series is kind of interesting to look at in the context of genre comics. The initial series seemed like a response to The Walking Dead's sentimentality and (at times) ridiculous notions of what would happen in such a situation. Then Lapham took over with his overblown torture porn crap and now Ennis (and Spurrier on the webcomic) seem to be taking it back to that more human level of exploring just how fucked humanity would get when faced with this kind of horrific apocalypse. I think Badlands has been the best of the lot, to be honest.

In other Ennis related comics, I think The Boys was a cheeky little shit of a comic but the joke wore out a long time ago. The last few issues have definitely recaptured that some but it's a bit too little, too late for me.

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« Reply #220 on: 19 April, 2012, 09:54:34 am »
Thanks Preacher, I might go back to Crossed if thats the case.  I found Lapham's wank fest lacked any form of maturity, humanity or dignity.
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« Reply #221 on: 19 April, 2012, 09:56:08 am »
Has anyone read Ennis' new Crossed series Badlands?

Brilliant stuff altogether. Reminded me a bit of his best work on Punisher MAX. Incredibly bleak yet humanistic (is that even a word!?) at the same time. He can really pour on that atmosphere of despair, can't he?  :P

Crossed as a series is kind of interesting to look at in the context of genre comics. The initial series seemed like a response to The Walking Dead's sentimentality and (at times) ridiculous notions of what would happen in such a situation. Then Lapham took over with his overblown torture porn crap and now Ennis (and Spurrier on the webcomic) seem to be taking it back to that more human level of exploring just how fucked humanity would get when faced with this kind of horrific apocalypse. I think Badlands has been the best of the lot, to be honest.

In other Ennis related comics, I think The Boys was a cheeky little shit of a comic but the joke wore out a long time ago. The last few issues have definitely recaptured that some but it's a bit too little, too late for me.

And that last issue with Crossed mature woman on poor man, that's so mind-fuck!

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« Reply #222 on: 19 April, 2012, 03:38:36 pm »
What I found interesting about Badlands was that the Crossed weren't even in it that much. And the worst, most upsetting stuff wasn't necessarily related to the Crossed but the decisions people had to made to escape/deal with them.

Ennis seems to use the Crossed comics as a way of exploring characters and the choices they make when faced with inescapable death (and an absolutely horrible death too). Lapham's series was just trying to out-do itself in terms of gore and ridculous torture porn, completely missing the point.

Jamie Delano is writing the next arc which I'll check out. He's a good writer though I haven't read anything of his in a long time.

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« Reply #223 on: 19 April, 2012, 04:02:53 pm »
Ennis seems to use the Crossed comics as a way of exploring characters and the choices they make when faced with inescapable death (and an absolutely horrible death too). Lapham's series was just trying to out-do itself in terms of gore and ridculous torture porn, completely missing the point.

Completely agree with you on all that.  Although Garth really does like to push the gross-out horror too, it usually happens within some kind of context of human struggle.  I just can't describe how much I hated Lapham's stuff.

Interested to see how Spurrier's take progresses.  So far I feel the 'horror' aspect is being hampered by inappropriate art.  Not necessarily poor art (given the schedule), but perhaps too closely following the jokier tone of the narration.

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« Reply #224 on: 20 April, 2012, 01:59:10 pm »
Got both Crossed and the final Homelander Boys, enjoyed the Boys and that reveal!!
'Crossed in Scotland' with none of Garth's 'oor willie' stuff was great too, totally agree with above above Lapham's work, LCD then some.
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