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Started by Paul faplad Finch, 03 February, 2009, 10:37:03 PM

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Paul faplad Finch

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Roger Godpleton

Quote from: "faplad"Honest I'm not and just to prove it;

Andy Diggle is a top bloke

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Da Bish wasn't mentioned. You've proved nothing.
He's only trying to be what following how his dreams make you wanna be, man!

Paul faplad Finch

Gordon Rennie writes a mean Satanus

Oh, and the war in the East is based on humanitarian goals and has nothing to do with the price of oil
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M.I.K.

Oh crap, it's the Anti-Mills!!

Somebody get rid of him before he destroys all that we hold dear!

Judge Kirby

Its easy to criticize. Personally i hate greysuit, cant stand it. but i love abc's, savage and im very sorry but Titus Defoe is a complete fucking badass! Defoe is probably the series im looking forward to most in 09 (unless kingdom pops in at some point). To come onto this site and go on and on about how much you hate pat mills but say you dont want people to hate you? like i said its easy to criticize, if you think you can do better then give it a go. The day Pat Mills leaves 2000ad ill have one less reason to pick it up.

Bear-pit

Quote from: "kevlev"Me too, I don't understand 'Pat' hating... without him, none of us would be here.

Are you saying that he's actually our creator? cus if that's true then the pope's gunna be pissed!

JOE SOAP

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Quote from: "kevlev"Me too, I don't understand 'Pat' hating... without him, none of us would be here.

Are you saying that he's actually our creator? cus if that's true then the pope's gunna be pissed!


Pat Mills' gonna give that Nazi son of a bitch some real intervention.

Emperor

Mills was writing some of my favourite thrills when I first started reading 2000 AD properly in the upper double digits (which helped get me hooked for life) and decades later he can still pull it out of the bag - that last series of Defoe was great (top marks should go to Tharg for getting Leigh Gallagher on art duties) and ended with the promise of the craziness being taken up another notch in the third series. Not bad for any writer

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Isn't there a touch of red in the Curls?

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If John Wagner writes a story called "Dark Pelt" consider me first in line to read it, no matter what the subject.
if I went 'round saying I was an Emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

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Robin Low

Quote from: "faplad"With my luck I've probably picked the one Pat story that everyone else agrees is shit and lost what little credibility I might have had left.

Yup. Finn was an example of Mills at his worst. Every character was utterly vile. What story there was, was just an excuse for him to express his personal prejudices.

Regards

Robin

Paul faplad Finch

I was young. There was violence. What can I say? I'm all growed up now.
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James Stacey

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Quote from: "faplad"With my luck I've probably picked the one Pat story that everyone else agrees is shit and lost what little credibility I might have had left.

Yup. Finn was an example of Mills at his worst. Every character was utterly vile. What story there was, was just an excuse for him to express his personal prejudices.

Regards

Robin
I think you rate Finn too highly. I mean who uses a P90, c'mon.

TordelBack

Finn is one of the things that turned me off 2000AD in the '90s.  I hated everything about the strip, all the more because it was patently ridiculous to spin-off this wiccan/Ickey nonsense from the too-worthy seriousness of Third World War.  From one grim extreme to another.

Robin Low

Quote from: "TordelBack"Finn is one of the things that turned me off 2000AD in the '90s.  I hated everything about the strip, all the more because it was patently ridiculous to spin-off this wiccan/Ickey nonsense from the too-worthy seriousness of Third World War.  From one grim extreme to another.

I should think most Wiccans would actually be massively insulted by any connection between the ideas in Finn and what they believe in and actually get up to. I'm sure there are few militant eco-warrior types around the edges, and I might even go so far as to call some of them nuts, but I doubt many are murderous hate-filled bastards like Finn and the priestess who used him.

The character of Paul/Finn seemed to be a culmination of Mills' dislike of heroes. He'd successful destroyed all that was positive in his other characters such as Nemesis, Marshal Law and Hammerstein, and so along comes Finn with no redeeming features to begin with. Saved him some time, but left us with a story utterly devoid of a soul.

Regards

Robin

TordelBack

Interesting idea.  Unfortunately I can't remember enough about the character to agree or disagree - blind hate has erased the details!  Had Mills assassinated Hammerstein by then?  I thought that came a bit later - he was still quite an admirable character at the very start of Khronicles of Khaos (which was just before Finn, right?).  And was Nemesis ever anyway nice?

Dandontdare

I was a huge fan of Crisis, cos around the turn of the nineties I was a lefty graduate living in a squat in Manchester and beginning to discover that there were lots of other great comics out there besides my old stalwart 2000ad (thanks largely to a mate with  HUGE collection of Swamp Thing, Miracleman, Nexus, Hate etc), so Crisis and Deadline really spoke to me, and always remind me of those times.

I also remember being very VERY disappointed with Finn in 2000ad - it just didn't have the same feel as Third World War, which may have been didactic, but was an exciting and innovative story. Finn just got too silly and obvious and I think I've erased all other details about it from my memory, except that I didn't rate it.