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[W. R. Logan]

> But as per usual Logan, you wade in with your size twelve sarcasm, stiffeling any healthy discussion and discouraging others from answering seriously.

Wading in, thought I replied quite rationally and put a point of view across that was just screaming for the topic to be discussed further.

Healthy discussion, have I missed something here, most of the posts you trawl through here are in praise of the mighty king trout and others border on the severely frivolous.

And its size 10's 8-)

By the way can we have a new subject header Wake, one that stipulates that a thread is for serious healthy discussion?

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[John Caliber]

McMahon has had it, I'm very sorry to say. After all these years of his art gradually getting more and more simpified - and more difficult to interpret - can it ever hope to improve? Some of McMahon's latest 2000AD strips have been messy and badly constructed, making the storyline hard to follow. Hardly the mark of a master storyteller. Yeah yeah, I know who disagrees with me ... :)

- TCC

[Oddboy]

Just the kind of answer you'd expect from someone who's read 2000 since Prog 534 8-)
McMahon is a legend and although his art style has radically evolved over the years, he's still a master storyteller

I'd read all of McMahon's earlier Dredds way before I read Howler.  His newer style sucks - my mother can draw better.  His old style had good pictures.  With new-McMahon, MC1's never been a flatter place.

[Matt]

What's with the photo?

[sigu]

Brian Bolland whose style has hardly changed in the last twenty years?

No disrespect intended to Brian, if it ain't bust don't fix it and all that, but it takes guts for an artist to move out of the safety zone of a successful style and McMahon's willingness to do this is one of the best things about his work.

And as Logan says, McMahon's storytelling is impeccable, whatever you think of his current style.

SiG

[Matt]

I love McMahons current work. It would bore anyone shitless to keep drawing the same thing in the same style for 20 odd years. I'd love to see him back on Slaine, his reworking of that character might just breath some life back into the strip.

[W. R. Logan]

>But that is just my opinion, and unless Wagner tells us otherwise we can only guess if there was any meaning behind the strip.

Just to let everyone know I've taken off my size 10's and I'm now wearing my fluffy slippers with the pom-poms.

From the man himself in relation to this weeks Dredd & 9/11:

No link was intended on my part.

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[W. R. Logan]

>Yeah yeah, I know who disagrees with me ... :)

Don't suppose it will come as any surprise if I do 8-)

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[W. R. Logan]

>I'd read all of McMahon's earlier Dredds way before I read Howler.  His newer style sucks - my mother can draw better.  His old style had good pictures.  With new-McMahon, MC1's never been a flatter place.

So now I resort to my most tactically brilliant argument:

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[W. R. Logan]

>What's with the photo?

They're the dispatch boxes from the oxford union debating society.

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[Tiplodocus]

I thought this week's prog was pure mince.

Dredd: Timing of this did make me feel slightly uncomfortable, no matter how it was intended. Half of the anniversary coverage on TV made me cringe as well so maybe it's just me. Liked the art, hated the colouring.

Rogue: Is this War Porn? I thought, like "Platoon"/"Black Hawk Down" it seems to be pretending that "War is Hell" while glorifying all the cool ways we can kill people.  

Bison: Yip yahoo hoo! It's ended.  No character to like or empathise with.  The slightest hint of any interesting idea killed by taking a tablet.   I did really like the art work though - any sense of style, cinema and action that this strip possesses is thanks to Campbell and Townsend - I'd like to see more of them.

Sin/Dex: This is terminally painful. Mr Abnett has written good stuff (some funny) in the past; how did this get through?

Scrap: Well done. This is going nicely. I look forward to seeing how this develops. The only above average thing in the Prog.

Letters: Well done, Odd. Has nobody written in to complain about BISON? Are we all expecting someone else to do it because it's that bad?

I am very disappointed with this prog.  Look at the list of creators in the credit boxes - there are some big and well respected names there. Now look again at what was produced.

But then again, what do I know? The last thing I wrote that anybody read started with "Perhaps your readers would like to know about an experience I had recently at my Health Club. I was alone in the Mixed Sauna when a pretty blonde and her brunnette friend walked in..."

[judge dreddd]

I have no more cred because i liked this weeks prog. sad

[John Caliber]

Bolland's style maintains a consistent quality - that's what I said. There's no point mucking about with all manner of different styles if half of them are plain naff. McMahon looks like he became bored with having to put so much detail into his work and copped out with the most simplified style he could conceive - it makes sense - after all, you get paid the same page rate whether you spend 10 hours or half an hour on it. I think all that time working on Sonic The Comic did it for poor old Mike.

Anybody who wants to see McMahon's current style on Slaine will be in for a big shock - if you remember McMahon's last work on ABC Warriors, that's what you'll get for Slaine. It would be horrific - wouldn't it?

- TCC

[crazychrissy]

First off, I can't be arsed with rational arguments - all those who slag off McMahon's recent work: what the hells is wrong with you drokkers? you obviously wouldn't know a great piece of comic artwork if it came up and dropped a frag-mine down your u-fronts.
You morons.
I'm seriously considering revoking my membership of the 534 club if I have to associate myself with such filthy talk.
Last weeks Dredd was genius. So was the ABC Warriors. I pity you.
Long live messers Logan and Sigu.

On the subject of this weeks prog, I thought Baikie's art was fine. Though obviously rushed. My guess is that Tharg needed a Dredd FAST (maybe a different droid was late with his artwork?) and Wagner & Baikie knocked this up in double quick time - I mean, I can see Jim's black ink bleeding because the watrercolour isn't yet dry!

Rogue was okay, didn't think much of the artwork & I hope we'll get some more involved story lines soon.

The Scrap seems to be shaping up nicely.

Thank God that Bison is over and Sin/Dex doesn't even deserve comment.

CC

[Tu-plang]

I'd love to see the new McMahon style on Slaine.  If just for something different, a short, old-skool b+w thriller about him slashing things and beating ukko, with none of this earth goddess pagan bollocks which has become less than subtle.