D20 System. HELP!

[Felix Vane]

Hello Bretheren!

I've been looking into the Slaine d20 RPG books, but for the life of me I can't make sence of it all!

The books are running cheap, but I was told to play a d20 game i'd need a Players Handbook version three or above. Mongoose have a book publishec called Slaine Runequest, which Im assuming is yet ANOTHER type of Rulebook.

Can some brilliantly bright individual lay it all down for me? What I need to play the games (Dice, Rulebook.ect) and perhaps where I can get them from?

Thanks everyone! 

[Tweak72]

you can find either a place to buy a D&D players hand book 3 or above online or there are online resources for PDF versions of 3 or above if you google search. I cant say how virus free the ones I found online were. You could also torrent search a copy if you do that kind of thing. 

Wiki is always a good place for a rough overview

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editions_of_Dungeons_%26_Dragons

[ThryllSeekyr]

Dtwenty Slaine requires you to buy the Dungeons and Dragons Third Edtion Dtwenty core rules in order to make sence of it.

http://www.amazon.com/Dungeon-Masters-Guide-Rulebook-Roleplaying/dp/078691551X/ref=pd_sim_b_1

Not that I can find them on the Mongoose Publsihng Site. They were once well known to seel those books as well. It stands to reason. Those books are generic and they are the essential compliment to the other Dtwenty source books that have been written.

You will also notice that there is a Player's Guide as well as a Monster Manual. I consider these to be essential as well. I would try to get these books at your local gaming store or through Amazon.com.

So far, I have only purchased the Players Guide myself. With that boo you have rules for character creation, feats, skills, finsing touchs, purcahing equipment/weapons. It's quite possible that these books aren't as essential as the GameMasteers Guide. As they are really just expanding on what you already have in the Slaine rules  

Even the Monster Manual may not be need as you will find the Salin books as it's beastiary. But samml one. The Monster Manual may provide fiurther expantions anmd they section of lsiting creatures that would fint right in with the Land of the Young.

There are many other generic source books written for the Dtwenty rules that would compliment the Slaine rule, but they are by no means essential.

It's really hard to find any of the generic books for Dtwenty rules. So I think Amazon.com is as good a place as any to start with those.

Runequest Slaine will require the main rule book, companion and book of monsters. Listed here....

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/home/series.php?qsSeries=39

You will find thse books at the bottom. I do recommend getting the Runequest Delux. Combining all three of those books. The Runequest Companion and book of Monsters might actually be more essential  and at least just as much as the mian rule book.Considering how imcomplete the Runequest Slaine rules are.

Myself, I only have the Rune Quest Slaine book. I will buy more when I start earning money again.

I think the Mongoose Publisihng online store is as god a place as nay to buy these.

Quoting Felix Vane

I was told to play a d20 game

Is it really compulsory?

[ThryllSeekyr]

I forgot to add, that I thought it's clever marketing ploy of Mongoose Publishing to make you purchase Generic rules and other source material for the Dtwenty & RuneQuestgaming systems when they could just as well include all the extra information in the Slaine rule books themselves.

[Felix Vane]

lol That was a very detailed reply ThryllSeekyr, and It's helped, But Narrowed right down to the core, What are the essential books I must have? I too, am fairly tight on money at the moment, so I want to avoid any books I don't need and JUST the book(s) I need to start playing.

I thought I read somewhere that only a few of the Slaine games used the Runequest System, Whilst others still used the D20 System.

Sorry to be a bit slow on this topic, I've got myself into a bit of a confused state.

[Felix Vane]

And also, Will I need the infamous 20 Sided Dice to play either with the d20 Rules of the Runequest rules? 

[ThryllSeekyr]

Your strapped for cash, and you are interested in running/playing a Slaine rolplaying game.

What books do you have already?

And also, Will I need the infamous 20 Sided Dice to play either with the d20 Rules of the Runequest rules? 

Do you have local gaming store where they sell the books. Otherwise....

http://www.rpgshop.com/d-and-d-dice-and-bags/

Try Ebay, they might sell them cheaper and I'm not sure which sided dice are more essential these days, though I would still buy the mixed sets.

[Felix Vane]

I dont have any books already! I wanted to start with the right Rulebook, As many of the gamebooks can be found on eBay for £3, Bargain in my opinion.

Thanks for you help.

[ThryllSeekyr]

Your strapped for cash, and you are interested in running/playing a Slaine rolplaying game.

What books do you have already?

And also, Will I need the infamous 20 Sided Dice to play either with the d20 Rules of the Runequest rules? 

Do you have local gaming store where they sell the books. Otherwise....

http://www.rpgshop.com/d-and-d-dice-and-bags/

Try Ebay, they might sell them cheaper and I'm not sure which sided dice are more essential these days, though I would still buy the mixed sets.

I dont have any books already! I wanted to start with the right Rulebook, As many of the gamebooks can be found on eBay for £3, Bargain in my opinion.

Thanks for you help.

That is a bargian, I would purchase those books at that price if I was you.

It's reaslly hard to tell a newcomer which book is best out of all of them including the [b[]Slaine Runequest[/b]. Evrybody that plays the game an from what I have heard on their forums. They all know the rules from Dtwenty through tpo RuneQuest.

The problem with Runequest is that it's missing alot sutff. The author just  either forgot to include stuff or was planning to use that in another supplement. The finer points of RuneQuest Slaine is that it does include newer material that was appaering in the Slaine comic more recenntly. Lots of stuff from Books of Invasions and all Slaine love Runequest but I don't . I woul prefer to see those rules converted to the Palladium system.

anywa, the thing is that fans of game and character have been using Runequest rules and have merely converted the Slaine Dtwenty rules when ever they were found deficient in b]Runequest[/b].

It also helps that they all have a intimate knowledge of all the Slaine dtwenty books as well as the RuneQuest Slaine as the need arises.

So if you going with Slaine Runequest. Be a completist, get all the books and esepcially if they are cheap.

[Felix Vane]

Thanks again for the reply man  So in your opinion, Go with Runequest.

Would it be a good idea to get hold of a d20 v.3 Rulebook (Or is it Players Handbook?) to accompany the Slaine Runequest book just to be safe?

[ThryllSeekyr]

My shortest answer would be to buy everything if you can get it as cheaply as what you say you can. I noticed that Ebay are selling the the Slaine Tribal books for Dtwenty for less than two pounds.

The Slaine Runequeest rules would be much better complimented by everything that is Slaine Dtwenty

If you study those all rules, you might be be able to handle Slaine Runequest better.

You should know and remember that while the rules might compliment each other, they are by no means, cross compatible.

Thats is, you can't mearley use the generic D&D 3rd Edtion Game-Masters Guide  directly with the Slaine RuneQuest Rules. Unless your Gary Gygyx or some other talented fantacy games designer and can work out conversions on the fly.

Games written for Runequest and TDtwenty system still require their own respective core rule books.

Thats just common sence.

Why don't you just start with buying the rule book for Slaine Dtwenty & if you like that, buy the rest, and then the generic game masters book. Read those study them and play a few games. Ask for advice at your local gaming store and buy the required generic source material if you think there's a gap that needs filling.

Here's alist of the Dtwenty stuff for Slaine No longer available on the Mongoose Publisihng website. Some of it's unavailable, but what 's avaiable in each book is all explained inside. Gives you a better idea.

http://www.spiritgames.co.uk/results.php?search=slaine

[Felix Vane]

Okay  Im going after the d20 Players Handbook, And perhaps after Christmas I'll get the Runequest Book, and all the other luxuries. Thanks for all your help ThryllSeekyr, Couldn't have got through this without you 

[ThryllSeekyr]

If you buy the Generic Dtwenty player's guide for D&D 3rd edition. Thats okay Essential if you want to play a character in somebnodyu else's game.

You may find that you will need this book in the long run anyway as it would expand on the player's section in the Dtwenty Slaine or .

I've purchased this book, but just out of curiosity. I still haven't got the generic Dtwenty Gamemaster guide, myself.

Though, you should follow this purchase up with the Generic D&D Dtwenty 3rd Edition Gamemasters guide. if you plan on running a game.

Just remmember, noe of the Generirc rule systems have any source material on Slaine.