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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1575 on: 05 April, 2011, 05:10:48 PM »
Irony is dead, David Cameron has stood on its head.

First he applauds protesters in the Middle East while keeping his boot on the throat of those doing so at home and then goes on an arms-dealing jaunt around the Middle East, selling weapons and military vehicles to regimes currently suppressing protest in their own countries (and even exporting it as Saudi Arabia did with Bahrain).

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He said the Pakistan was simply "not raising the resources necessary to pay for things that a modern state and people require".

The Pakistani fiscal position was a serious one because "too few people pay tax. Too many of your richest people are getting away without paying much tax at all – and that's not fair".

www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/05/david-cameron-pakistan-raise-taxes-rich

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1576 on: 05 April, 2011, 05:42:08 PM »
Surely in the case just described, irony is alive and kicking!!?  Maybe it's me, I don't pretend to be "ejumacated."

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1577 on: 05 April, 2011, 05:45:18 PM »
Blame the international banking system, not the people.

If Pakistan could create and control its own money supply virtually for free instead of borrowing privately created money at interest, it wouldn't need aid. No country would.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1578 on: 05 April, 2011, 07:43:34 PM »
Irony is dead, David Cameron has stood on its head.

Surely in the case just described, irony is alive and kicking!!?

You're both right. What David Cameron said was ironic, but the irony is surely lost on him. What Emperor said was sarcastic, because the irony is surely lost on Dave Cameron.

Blame the international banking system, not the people. If Pakistan could create and control its own money supply virtually for free instead of borrowing privately created money at interest, it wouldn't need aid. No country would.

Is the Netherlands free of the international banking system, then, and does it create and supply its own money? If not, how come they were able to impose a retrospective 100% tax on bank bonuses, backdated to 2008? Why can't we do that here?
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« Reply #1579 on: 05 April, 2011, 07:54:05 PM »
Talking about going full circle. Anyone remember, David Cameron and the rest of his moist dishevelled and most likely wrinkled foreskin cronies promising to not only stop ALL cuts to the NHS, but to invest heavily in our dilapidating medical dungeons of hope, (And let's not forget, despair.)
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1580 on: 05 April, 2011, 09:00:54 PM »
No, Ush - taxation comes after creation (basically to pay for the creation).

Michael Meacher is the latest MP to see the light, as he explains on his blog here: http://www.michaelmeacher.info/weblog/2011/03/when-are-the-banks-going-to-be-reformed/

If you'd like to email your own MP about this vitally important issue, yo can find the following form email at  http://action.positivemoney.org.uk/page/speakout/OGC_Tell_Your_MP

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"Dear [INSERT YOUR MP's NAME],

I was surprised to discover recently that while the government has apparently run out of money, the high-street banks that caused the crisis are effectively able to create tens of billions of pounds every year. The laws that stop criminals printing their own £5 or £10 notes have never been updated to take account of the fact that most money now is digital. Banks make use of this loophole to create up to £200bn a year, and pump this money into housing bubbles and toxic derivatives.

I'm concerned that no democratic decision has ever been made to allow high-street banks to create money in this way. I'm also concerned that ordinary people are being made to pay the costs of a crisis that was caused by the banks, while the banks are permitted to return to business as usual.

Would you watch this 3 minute video, which explains the issue succinctly:

http://action.positivemoney.org.uk/one-good-cut

Your sincerely,

[INSERT YOUR NAME HERE]"

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1581 on: 05 April, 2011, 11:04:29 PM »
Would you work for nothing just to keep your CV padded out? Just to say that you have a job? Kelly Fallis, chief executive of Remote Stylist, a Toronto and New York-based startup that provides Web-based interior design services, thinks so. "Ten years from now, this is going to be the norm," she says.

http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2011/03/25/unpaid-jobs-the-new-normal/
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1582 on: 05 April, 2011, 11:20:41 PM »
Wow - this thread will be one year old on Saturday! A whole year of Twoothy politics and not one expense fiddled, corporation sucked-off or war started!

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1583 on: 05 April, 2011, 11:33:54 PM »
Would you work for nothing just to keep your CV padded out?

That's called 'academia', isn't it?

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1584 on: 05 April, 2011, 11:36:58 PM »
Heh - and politics (at least initially). Work as an intern for nothing - thus ensuring that only the people who can afford it get the political experience needed to get ahead in Westminster. And they say there's no such thing as conspiracies... ;)
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« Reply #1585 on: 06 April, 2011, 02:13:00 PM »
Have you seen Klegg banging on today about improving internships and apprenticeships so that career prospects don't depend on "who your father's friends are" (He got his first work experience at a Finnish bank because his dad, who was the chairman of the United Trust Bank, 'had a word' with a friend)

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1586 on: 06 April, 2011, 08:41:06 PM »
Would you work for nothing just to keep your CV padded out?

That's called 'academia', isn't it?
At the moment my missus is doing quite a bit of voluntary work for the local sure start at the moment and has been doing for some time now so yes it does happen occasionally. I begrudgingly accept it as she has a foot in the door to hopefully start in that line of work when Sophie starts school full time.



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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1587 on: 06 April, 2011, 08:45:21 PM »
We sometimes talk politics in the Yap Shop. (Sometimes...)

Oh look - it's Yap Shop night tonight. What a coincidence...

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1588 on: 08 April, 2011, 05:06:46 PM »
I am seriously considering the idea of making a bid for local council next year (in Scotland). I'm fed up of politicians serving their own interests before those of the local community, or indeed the country. I think that given the same opportunity, I would do my utmost to serve not only those who might elect me, but also those groups who are most vulnerable.

Now, I'm a reasonably intelligent guy, I have a degree and I believe I have the passion that's needed, but I have little to no experience or knowledge of how to even contemplate going about this.

Does anyone have any experience or insight on working for local government or suggestions as to where to start? I'm obviously using the Google for the interwebby side of things...

Cheers for any and all help/suggestions.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #1589 on: 08 April, 2011, 05:42:32 PM »
Start by getting onto your local Parish Council or similar.
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