The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[Ghastly McNasty]

I enjoyed the movie. Nothing mind blowing but entertaining none the less.

I too must declare that I though Bane's voice was brilliant. Gave him an air of mystery and even invincibility. Best masked voice over thingy since Lord Vader himself!

Dredd trailer was goooood to.

[Proudhuff]

Ranty mode on:

after mulling it over, i really disliked this more than previous ones. 

and was there any moral to the whole thing?
The people crave corrupt masters? you can rebel but it mean you'll all die? the League/ outside threat is worse that corrupt officals so accept them?  even the Clooney version beat this twaddle,

rant mode off. 

[SmallBlueThing]

Just out of interest, how is this doing at the international box office? Has it beaten marvel avengers assemble yet, as it was widely expected to do? I havent heard much about it since release, was it just a massive damp squib?

SBT

[radiator]

It's doing very well, though not as good as Avengers and not as well as The Dark Knight.

TDKR is a very successful film, whereas TDK was a full-blown cultural phenomenon - I never expected the former to exceed the latter.

I expect that word of mouth has been far more mixed on TDKR too - it isn't as near-universally popular as TDK.

[Richmond Clements]

Yeah, once Avengers started doing Avatar type money, I don't think there was any hope of beating it.

[Buddy]

Seen this last weekend and was thoroughly underwhelmed by it.

Hathaway looked good the the Catwoman outfit (but would you really go about climbing in and out of buildings and running around in high heels?)

Banes voice sounded like a pantomime villain. Would have preferred if Nolan hadn't given in to complaints that no one could understand him when the first trailer was released... Sounded fine to me.

And no Dredd trailer either. Humph!

[dracula1]

Same as you Mr. Buddy! Hathaway looks amazing as does the film overall. It's no where near as good as the first two. I'm all Batmanned out! If they don't do another in the next 10 years I won't be bothered. Roll on Dredd and a fresh new perspectve on the action film.

[Judge Olde]

I don't think the film was ever going to be able to top the second, it was a good effort with a bit of a silly ending. I've watched the first two films plenty of times, I am not sure I could sit through the third more than a couple of times more, if that. Lots of plot points I could moan over, but it did what it was meant to & was a good enjoyable film. Not sure I want to see a Nightwing film though ..

[radiator]

Don't know why people seem a little confused by the ending. Blake is clearly set up to be the next BATMAN, not Nightwing or Robin. He IS Robin during the film - or Nolans approximation of Robin. That's what the little nod at the end is supposed to reveal.

[Definitely Not Mister Pops]

Don't know why people seem a little confused by the ending. Blake is clearly set up to be the next BATMAN, not Nightwing or Robin. He IS Robin during the film - or Nolans approximation of Robin. That's what the little nod at the end is supposed to reveal.

[spoiler]Whether he is Batman or Robin or Nightwing is inconsequential. He never had ninja training, doesn't have the seemingly endless resources of a large company (provided you're okay with grand larceny) and would be a corpse within a year. [/spoiler]

Also you should use spoiler tags.

[radiator]

I dont see what that has to do with the point i was making. All good points, hough, and all things that occurred to me too. As I said previously, it's those kind of niggles that ultimately marred the film for me.

As for spoiler tags - I dont seem to be able to do them in tapatalk, and also to a certain extent, this is the sort of thread  one enters at their own risk.

[Definitely Not Mister Pops]

.......and also to a certain extent, this is the sort of thread  one enters at their own risk.

Quite Right.

As for your point about Blake, I was trying to say in my clumsy curmudgeonly way, if you start trying to over-think this movie, it starts to fall apart. It doesn't really matter if he decides to take on the mantle of Batman or creates a new costumed vigilante that Gotham is unfamiliar with. He just doesn't have the training or resources. They're would have to be another origins movie. Batman Beyond/Nightwing Begins? Not something I'd be interested in and I think Nolan's made it pretty clear he's done with Batman anyway

[Charlie boy]

Nolan is said to be acting as executive producer on a new Batman trilogy. I can't see it focusing on Blake because the reboot was said to be needed because Nolan's Bat-universe wouldn't fit in with a JLA universe (could you really watch Dark Knight and believe that a couple of cities over there was a Godlike being from another world and a few more cities over a man wearing the most powerful weapon in the universe on his finger?). As for Blake becoming a worthy hero in his own right, isn't that doubtful? The whole point of Nolan's trilogy was it was Bruce, not the suit or gadgets (think of the opening in Begins were he's considered a threat to his fellow prisoners). Then years of training meant he could take down a load of armed mercenaries during one scene of DKR as if it was nothing. Blake, without this training, would struggle to move around Gotham properly in a suit, let alone stand against his first mob without being torn limb from limb.

[radiator]

Just me who got a kind of Dark Knight Returns 'sons of Batman' vibe from the orphanage being transported to Wayne Manor?

As for the Nolan universe not fitting with JLA - I completely agree, and while I think a hard reboot is the best way to go, it could conceivably work if they use a new Batman (Blake) as a launch pad for a radically different tone in the next film. Nolans films still stand as a complete piece of work while spinning off into something new and retaining enough familiar elements to keep people on board. After all, they do that sort of reinvention thing in the comics all the time.

[JOE SOAP]

The next Bat-Boot will be launched after the JLA (2015) which would mean maybe another Bat-Film a year or two later in 2016/2017.

That's about 4-5 years cultural flushing-time which is enough for Nolan's Bat-Verse to be expelled.