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Re: The Trailer Thread
« Reply #495 on: 14 March, 2019, 02:15:16 pm »
New Hellboy trailer. OK, I’m feeling a lot better-disposed towards the new movie. Looks like it could be loads of schlocky fun, although I still have reservations about the actual Hellboy make-up job…
Ooh, yeah, that's better. Agreed on the make-up job.

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« Reply #496 on: 23 May, 2019, 04:49:57 pm »
The 4th(!) attempt at Terminator 3 looks surprisingly cheap and awful:

https://youtu.be/RwEr9tOwAbs

As tired as the Terminator franchise is at this point, I would be so up for a balls to the wall, stripped down Fury Road style reboot that got back to the essence of the original movies. This one doesn't look any better than the last few, though. Genuinely shocked at how bad the effects are - I'm so tired of this phony, cartoonish greenscreen aesthetic that almost all genre movies have these days.

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« Reply #497 on: 23 May, 2019, 05:41:33 pm »
The 4th(!) attempt at Terminator 3 looks surprisingly cheap and awful:

https://youtu.be/RwEr9tOwAbs

... Genuinely shocked at how bad the effects are - I'm so tired of this phony, cartoonish greenscreen aesthetic that almost all genre movies have these days.

True.  JJ Abrams' new Star Wars sequel is making a big selling point of shooting on location and using practical effects, so at least there's one big sci-fi sequel you're sure to enjoy.

More importantly, there isn't a single original idea on show. I remember a hack being given a tour round Cameron's offices (early nineties) and reporting he'd been shown plans for Terminator 3 that didn't involve the original cast and took the franchise in a completely new direction.

Whatever eye-watering sum persuaded Cameron to take a producer credit on this TV pilot masquerading as a feature obviously wasn't enough to blow the dust off that lever arch file. And the music - I don't know about you, but when I think of Terminator, I think of Bjork. *


* Specifically, a sad piano cover of Bjork. I like Bjork. Her music doesn't make me think of indestructible robots tearing off their own arms to beat each other into a shower of lab-grown meat and spare parts.

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« Reply #498 on: 23 May, 2019, 06:26:39 pm »
I've never understood why the infiltration angle of the Terminators hasn't been used more. Rather than endlessly rehashing the T2 formula, wouldn't it be far scarier if literally anybody could be a Terminator? I seem to remember in the Robocop Vs Terminator comics they kind of used this idea - they had a child Terminator, even a dog Terminator IIRC. Seems like such an obvious premise for a Terminator movie to get back to it's slasher/chase movie roots.

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True.  JJ Abrams' new Star Wars sequel is making a big selling point of shooting on location and using practical effects, so at least there's one big sci-fi sequel you're sure to enjoy.

Said it before, but it's so refreshing watching big budget action movies from 20+ years ago to see all the location shooting, the practical stunts etc. Don't get me wrong, cg is wonderful, I just wish they'd be a bit more restrained in its use sometimes. Everything in that trailer just looks like a videogame cutscene to me. I was expecting a lot better considering Cameron is involved this time.

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« Reply #499 on: 23 May, 2019, 06:40:01 pm »
Everything in that trailer just looks like a videogame cutscene to me. I was expecting a lot better considering Cameron is involved this time.

'Producer' is a term that covers a lot of ground. If J-Cam did more than make a phone call to his ex, I'd be amazed. *

I was only kidding about you enjoying Star Wars. Please acknowledge my hilarity.


* I haven't read anything about this turkey. So I might be talking out my hole

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« Reply #500 on: 23 May, 2019, 06:43:31 pm »
I seem to remember  hearing something about the rights reverting back to Cameron after the last movie, so I figured he'd be more involved in this one.

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« Reply #501 on: 23 May, 2019, 07:14:21 pm »
I assume if he was really interested in more Terminator he'd be making it himself and not 4 Avatars but JC does have a story credit ... with 4 other writers.

As usual the trailer's probably not selling the film that it actually is, but even so, for me this franchise hasn't had anywhere else to go since 1984. Everything since has been a remake.

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« Reply #502 on: 23 May, 2019, 10:28:48 pm »
..., for me this franchise hasn't had anywhere else to go since 1984. Everything since has been a remake.

S'right. But at least T2 was a very pretty, entertaining remake.

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« Reply #503 on: 26 May, 2019, 09:11:50 am »
I think for all it's faults, Terminator Salvation did something a bit different.

I'm not saying it was a great film, or even that good, although I quite enjoyed it.

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« Reply #504 on: 26 May, 2019, 11:04:18 am »
The Terminator franchise should take a nap for a few years. Another attempt to redo the same story that we have seen without adding something new.   

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« Reply #505 on: 26 May, 2019, 11:54:34 am »
I've read online it has a more 'nuanced political story,' hence it's setting the American Mexican Border. The Trailer gives away the Villians ability to copy itself using Nano Technology so Nil points there. Hollywood gets its Trailers made by Companies that sometimes have had zero to do with the Production and are mostly the cheapest available if you want to minimise losses.  This Trailer is the first, but if they are indifferent to its revelations already that might mean the filmmakers have low expectations of the success of their product.
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« Reply #507 on: 28 May, 2019, 05:59:28 pm »
Full trailer for the new Swamp Thing TV series, about which I am cautiously optimistic. Production troubles notwithstanding, Verheiden is originally a comic book guy, with some good TV stuff to his name over the years.
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« Reply #508 on: 28 May, 2019, 09:03:56 pm »
I've read online it has a more 'nuanced political story,' hence it's setting the American Mexican Border. The Trailer gives away the Villians ability to copy itself using Nano Technology so Nil points there. Hollywood gets its Trailers made by Companies that sometimes have had zero to do with the Production and are mostly the cheapest available if you want to minimise losses.  This Trailer is the first, but if they are indifferent to its revelations already that might mean the filmmakers have low expectations of the success of their product.

To be fair, people who have seen actual scenes/footage from the movie have apparently raved about it, so the movie could end up being decent. I'll keep an open mind, but I still think the effects in this trailer look godawful. It looks like a cheap superhero movie.

I think a fundamental problem with the terminator series is that in terms of design you can't really top the T-1000. It's simply the perfect infiltration/killing machine. Any attempt to go 'one better', like the one from Terminator 3, just looks silly by comparison.

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« Reply #509 on: 29 May, 2019, 01:19:52 pm »
I've read online it has a more 'nuanced political story,' hence it's setting the American Mexican Border. The Trailer gives away the Villians ability to copy itself using Nano Technology so Nil points there. Hollywood gets its Trailers made by Companies that sometimes have had zero to do with the Production and are mostly the cheapest available if you want to minimise losses.  This Trailer is the first, but if they are indifferent to its revelations already that might mean the filmmakers have low expectations of the success of their product.

To be fair, people who have seen actual scenes/footage from the movie have apparently raved about it, so the movie could end up being decent. I'll keep an open mind, but I still think the effects in this trailer look godawful. It looks like a cheap superhero movie.

I think a fundamental problem with the terminator series is that in terms of design you can't really top the T-1000. It's simply the perfect infiltration/killing machine. Any attempt to go 'one better', like the one from Terminator 3, just looks silly by comparison.

You really can't top the effects, performance and use of the T-1000. One of the truly great villains in recent film history.

Low expectations for the film, but I am prepared to give it a chance, and hope that they've just cut a terrible trailer.

Would love to see a bonkers director, Nicolas Winding Refn or S. Craig Zahler, get a stab at doing a reboot, and maybe finally seeing something fresh brought to the series.