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IDW go where no crossover has gone before. Into Time and Space!

Started by Hawkmumbler, 14 February, 2012, 04:38:05 PM

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It's official - the interior art is worse than the covers and it really IS smeared on toilet paper. SQUEEE UNIVERSE CROSSOVER LOL.

TordelBack

Are those meant to be Deltans? 

More to the point, is this set in R'yleh?  'Cos that's the only place that perspective and those nauseating colours would make sense...

von Boom

Saw this on the shelf. I didn't even pick it up to look at it. These will be wrapping fish shortly.

Emperor

That looks like it came from an annual in the late 70s and not the lead stories with the better artists (I have some John Higgins work in a Battlestar Galactica Annual, for example) but the cheap filler they hope no-one really notices. Is that genuinely the interior art or are you yanking our chains?

OK I looked up a preview, apparently this is indeed not a clever CFM joke:

www.wired.com/underwire/2012/05/star-trek-tng-doctor-who/

Thing is the Cybermen and the Doctor don't look too bad but everything else...

QuoteThe art in some places conveys place, tone and form wonderfully, but often it feels rushed and shoddy, and somehow not linked to what is actually happening. The referenced characters generally convince, but the new characters feel like they have less attention.

www.bleedingcool.com/2012/05/21/review-star-trek-next-generationdoctor-who-1/

Perhaps the target audience just doesn't care.

And some reviewers like it:

QuoteOne other note, J.K. Woodward provides some beautiful painted artwork for the book, and particularly in the opening scenes, seems extremely suited to the task of creating a crossover than mashes together two universes. The artist seems to be channeling Alex Ross' work on Kingdom Come a little bit here, and more than helps take what could be a small taste of a story, and make it feel a little more epic.

http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/05/29/doctor-whostar-trek-assimilation-1-review/

QuoteJK Woodward is an interesting choice for this book. I'd love to know why he was chosen for art duties here. This book looks to be 100% painted. And it's painted beautifully. However, this is a big action book and I think maybe it would've been better served by a more traditional pencil and ink style of art. Again, I'm not saying that Woodward's art is bad or underwhelming by any means, in fact, quite the opposite. I just think that maybe it's not the style for this book. That being said, this book is gorgeous!! Especially the Doctor Who half, which takes place in the ancient past, and is filled with fantastic, lavish detail and beautifully painted. Woodward hits all the likenesses dead-on. You know who everyone is immediately, yet it's not distracting or drawn from production stills, which is a nice treat.

www.geeksofdoom.com/2012/05/29/comic-review-star-trekdoctor-who-assimilation-2-1/

Quote from: Hawkmonger on 04 May, 2012, 05:57:54 PMArt aside i'm still gonna pick these up. I've just been waiting to long for this crossover.

Have people actually been waiting for a Who/Trek crossover to happen? It doesn't seem too obvious, even if in hindsight teaming the Borg and Cybermen in a story seems rather predictable.
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There are genuinely better-drawn Who strips on Deviantart, by teenage non-professionals.
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The Adventurer

Remember, this is the company in charge of the US Judge Dredd comic.



Just... putting that out there.

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Darren Stephens

Not wishing (too much) to bash, but that artwork looks truly awful. Shading everything with black was something most artists grow out of at puberty.  :(  I hope it's an entirely different team working on Dredd.....
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Quote from: Darren Stephens on 30 May, 2012, 08:57:58 PM
Not wishing (too much) to bash, but that artwork looks truly awful. Shading everything with black was something most artists grow out of at puberty.  :(  I hope it's an entirely different team working on Dredd.....

Its my experience that IDW skimps on the interior artist talent on all their licensed books. They get good writers, but the most mediocre of interior artists. Jeff Moy on Legion of Super-Heroes/Star Trek was probably the best art I've seen in a licensed book by them (baring a handful of Paul Grist drawn Doctor Who one-shots)

But don't worry, I'm sure Dredd will have a dozen variant covers by actual talented artists every issue!

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Darren Stephens

Paul Grist drawn Doctor Who one-shots, eh? That sounds like a winning combo. Might have to look into getting my hands on those....
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Turns out he only did one. Doctor Who: Time Machination. I could have swore there was another one.... with Charlie Chaplin. But.... I can't seem to find any reference too it any more.



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A certain IDW Creative Director is at this weeks 2D, hopefully he'll have brought along some Dredd stuff to admire. Any questions let me know (although no arsey 'IDW interior art is gash' type ones eh?)..

Personally I'll be repeating to him 100 times 'see that PJ Holden over there kissing mammies and their babies... you want him on art duties.....'
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Mardroid

I'm not keen on the crossover idea [spoiler]but I actually rather liked that artwork.[/spoiler]

Link Prime

The art ain't brilliant, but I've seen worse. Even in our favourite publication. Recently enough.
Good art or not, I probably wouldn't be too into this comic.
Amusingly, I've just read on Bleedingcool that this is top of the charts on iBooks. What do we know, eh?

One final point RE IDW interior art- Gabriel Rodriguez is for my money one of the top 5 comic book artists currently working in the business.

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Quote from: The Adventurer on 30 May, 2012, 09:37:27 PM
Turns out he only did one. Doctor Who: Time Machination. I could have swore there was another one.... with Charlie Chaplin. But.... I can't seem to find any reference too it any more.

It's Al Davison on art duties on the Charlie Chaplin strip, Paul Grist has drawn a lot of the covers. He also drew a 2 parter in the Doctor Who Magazine.

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Yeah, that arts quite poor but I've seen worse. I think the fact that it's stylistically evocative of Alex Ross is what really draws attention to the inadequacies of the draughtsmanship. It's the old chestnut of looking at how the artist draws hands being very revealing isn't it?

There's no excuse for those terrible covers though.