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IDW go where no crossover has gone before. Into Time and Space!

Started by Hawkmumbler, 14 February, 2012, 04:38:05 PM

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starscape

The art, from that small preview, looks amazing.  I'm genuinely shocked people don't like that beautiful painted work.

The Adventurer

Its not that 'beautiful' I mean. Its competent I guess. Its no Alex Ross (at his peak)


There's been this sort of wave of 'painted' style artwork running through comics lately (mostly at Marvel) that just doesn't appeal to me. There's to much emphases on getting character likenesses to look like 'real people' (in particular where licensed comics are concerned) that it takes all the dynamic aspect of cartooning out of comic art. It just doesn't appeal to me.


Like I mentioned earlier, Jeff Moy (who you might say has a more 'animated' style) drew Star Trek/Legion of Super-Heroes a few months ago. Rather then laboring over the likenesses of Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner they just drew Spock and Kirk, and you knew who they were just fine.

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That's definitely more what I'm looking for in my epic cross-over adventure comic.

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radiator

Quote from: starscape on 31 May, 2012, 09:34:13 AM
The art, from that small preview, looks amazing.  I'm genuinely shocked people don't like that beautiful painted work.

The anatomy is bad - look at that hand! - and the backgrounds are weak too. Dodgy perspectives all round.

starscape

That's LoSH is far inferior art for me.  In fact, this is the kind of art that stops me buying most comics these days.  It looks like a cartoon storyboard, rather than more realistic art I prefer.

The Adventurer

Different strokes. Its good that both styles can co-exist. And I can understand how one or the other can ruin another's good times depending on their tastes.

Personally I find 'realistic' paint styles to be lifeless and devoid of any sense of motion. Which makes it a dull affair. But that may just be me.

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radiator

Stylistic preferences aside, anyone with a basic understanding of anatomy, staging, storytelling, perspective and environments can see that on a purely technical level, the Moy page is vastly superior to the painted one.

TordelBack

Quote from: radiator on 31 May, 2012, 10:12:42 AM
Quote from: starscape on 31 May, 2012, 09:34:13 AM
The art, from that small preview, looks amazing.  I'm genuinely shocked people don't like that beautiful painted work.

The anatomy is bad - look at that hand! - and the backgrounds are weak too. Dodgy perspectives all round.

Just look at the monorail* in the first panel.  That was enough for me.  The only passable bits were just the artist tracing photos of (presumably) himself gurning in the foreground.

Having no artistic ability whatsoever I usually stop short of criticising comics art, except where I feel it fails to tell a story effectively or grossly offends me with identical porn faces, but this just does not do it for me.  Plenty of talent in evidence, but a lot more practice needed.








*The cosmic ballet goes on.

radiator

Yep - that monorail looks like it's emerging from a hole in the ground.

Goosegash

Quote from: The Adventurer on 31 May, 2012, 10:26:17 AM
Different strokes. Its good that both styles can co-exist. And I can understand how one or the other can ruin another's good times depending on their tastes.

Personally I find 'realistic' paint styles to be lifeless and devoid of any sense of motion. Which makes it a dull affair. But that may just be me.

That's basically the problem I have with Alex Ross. I don't mind him as a cover artist, but his interior stuff has always disappointed for the reasons described above. It always reads to me like a series of posed portraits rather than a sequential narrative.

Professor Bear

I don't think criticism of the originators of American Dredd material should be allowed on this forum.  This is a place that should surely be more in line with the majority opinion?

SmallBlueThing

Paul Grist also dabbled in the dr who universe by writing and drawing a considerable chunk of titan's 'torchwood: rift war' trade collection, along with d'israeli. Worth picking up even if tw isnt your thing.

SBT
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CrazyFoxMachine

Quote from: Goosegash on 31 May, 2012, 01:14:27 PM
It always reads to me like a series of posed portraits rather than a sequential narrative.

They have Ross we have Langley ;)

Emperor

Quote from: The Adventurer on 31 May, 2012, 10:26:17 AMPersonally I find 'realistic' paint styles to be lifeless and devoid of any sense of motion. Which makes it a dull affair. But that may just be me.

I don't think I have a preference in such broad styles, just about any style can be done well or not. Painterly styles can be rather stiff and lacking in dynamism because the push to more photo-realistic art often needs a lot of photo-referencing which can, if not handled well, lead to those problems. If you look at some of the extras on Kingdom Come it gives a breakdown of how Ross does his art, which seems to involve him and his friends standing around in poses that he paints over. That doesn't mean all painterly styles need suffer these problems.

Granted if you are going the linework route you can take advantage of "cartooning" tricks to get more movement in your work but again a poor artist can deliver some less than exciting work.
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Hawkmumbler

Well i'll be waiting for a collected edition as I missed issue 1.  :lol:
Looking at issue 3 my heart sanck when I saw the flash back was 'drawn' by The Sharp Brothers. >:(